Autopen Investigation of Biden

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Anonymous wrote:Why why why does Biden pipe up about the auto pen in a news cycle where Trump is on the defensive about Epstein???


Because the NYT had a story and asked him to comment and he actually gave them an interview for the first time in years. I agree the timing is terrible though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Turns out the dummy (Comer) heading the investigation into Biden’s use of the auto pen during his tenure, is himself using digital signatures and autopen in conjunction with the review. Makes sense.


Digital signatures are not the same as auto pen. Digital signatures are the most secure form of signatures.
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Anonymous wrote:Turns out the dummy (Comer) heading the investigation into Biden’s use of the auto pen during his tenure, is himself using digital signatures and autopen in conjunction with the review. Makes sense.

I'm sure you're aware the issue here isn't mere use of an autopen, but rather misuse of an autopen to misrepresent the decisions of an unelected cabal as those of an impaired president.


“Unelected cabal” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

It’s called a cabinet, and advisors. Trump has them too. Take off the tinfoil hat.


At least Biden still had enough brain function to know he wasn't capable of performing this job 24/7 and therefore he turned over control to those with fully functioning brains. Trump's ego is too big for him to relinquish any power.


He should not have remained as president if he needed to turn over duties to unelected officials.
Things like pardons are ONLY to be done by the president. If someone else, say Jeff Zients, was making decisions about exactly who was to receive pardons, that is illegal.


You do realize, I hope, that Trump issued a blanket pardon for about 1500 Jan. 6 defendants BECAUSE he couldn't be bothered to learn the details of each case. So while he was aware he issued the blanket pardon, it's not as if he carefully considered each and every case like a normal president would. He signed one executive order granting a blanket pardon, even though some cases were more serious than others. At minimum, he should have not pardoned anyone who caused bodily harm to an LEO. But he did.

So spare me any comparisons to Biden on the issue of pardons.



But Trump made that decision, you said so yourself. The American people have no idea who made Biden’s decisions. That is the problem.


The people who believe that Biden did not make his own decisions are those that consume RW media. Biden had slowed down in his last year in office, mentally and physically, but that doesn't mean that he didn't know what he was doing. I actually heard him speak at the WH in December and while he was longwinded and spoke with a faint voice, he knew what he was saying. He shouldn't have run for office a second time, but not because he was out of it and didn't know what he was doing, but because he lacked the stamina for one of the hardest jobs in the world.


This.
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Anonymous wrote:Turns out the dummy (Comer) heading the investigation into Biden’s use of the auto pen during his tenure, is himself using digital signatures and autopen in conjunction with the review. Makes sense.


Digital signatures are not the same as auto pen. Digital signatures are the most secure form of signatures.


This is not a technological problem. Do not fall for that shiny object.

Pardons are supposed to be granted by the President and he must know the details of who he is pardoning and what he is pardoning them for. Pardons are not supposed to be granted by the president's staff.

That's what was going on. Unelected staff like Anita Dunn and Neera were writing and granting pardons via the autopen machine. That's why everyone is taking the fifth.

It's not supposed to be an automated process or signature. It's granting a pardon by exception, not as a rule.
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Neera Tanden
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Anonymous wrote:Turns out the dummy (Comer) heading the investigation into Biden’s use of the auto pen during his tenure, is himself using digital signatures and autopen in conjunction with the review. Makes sense.

I'm sure you're aware the issue here isn't mere use of an autopen, but rather misuse of an autopen to misrepresent the decisions of an unelected cabal as those of an impaired president.


“Unelected cabal” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

It’s called a cabinet, and advisors. Trump has them too. Take off the tinfoil hat.


At least Biden still had enough brain function to know he wasn't capable of performing this job 24/7 and therefore he turned over control to those with fully functioning brains. Trump's ego is too big for him to relinquish any power.


At least?

The U.S. Constitution

Article II

Section 2

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States , except in Cases of Impeachment.
Anonymous
What a ridiculous discussion.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Turns out the dummy (Comer) heading the investigation into Biden’s use of the auto pen during his tenure, is himself using digital signatures and autopen in conjunction with the review. Makes sense.


Digital signatures are not the same as auto pen. Digital signatures are the most secure form of signatures.


This is not a technological problem. Do not fall for that shiny object.

Pardons are supposed to be granted by the President and he must know the details of who he is pardoning and what he is pardoning them for. Pardons are not supposed to be granted by the president's staff.

That's what was going on. Unelected staff like Anita Dunn and Neera were writing and granting pardons via the autopen machine. That's why everyone is taking the fifth.

It's not supposed to be an automated process or signature. It's granting a pardon by exception, not as a rule.


So Trump knew the details of all the J6 cases? Doubtful. And why does Trump have a pardon czar if the “pardons are not supposed to be granted by the president's staff”?
Anonymous
Sure Trump is a pedophile, but Biden used an autopen (just like Trump and many other presidents)
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Turns out the dummy (Comer) heading the investigation into Biden’s use of the auto pen during his tenure, is himself using digital signatures and autopen in conjunction with the review. Makes sense.


Digital signatures are not the same as auto pen. Digital signatures are the most secure form of signatures.


This is not a technological problem. Do not fall for that shiny object.

Pardons are supposed to be granted by the President and he must know the details of who he is pardoning and what he is pardoning them for. Pardons are not supposed to be granted by the president's staff.

That's what was going on. Unelected staff like Anita Dunn and Neera were writing and granting pardons via the autopen machine. That's why everyone is taking the fifth.

It's not supposed to be an automated process or signature. It's granting a pardon by exception, not as a rule.


They weren’t granted by staff. Obama, Biden and Trump have pardoned a group of people. It’s not magically all about the autopen now. This is a distraction. This is stupid. An autopen signature is legally binding, just like a signature from the pen in the president’s hand.
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Anonymous wrote:Turns out the dummy (Comer) heading the investigation into Biden’s use of the auto pen during his tenure, is himself using digital signatures and autopen in conjunction with the review. Makes sense.

I'm sure you're aware the issue here isn't mere use of an autopen, but rather misuse of an autopen to misrepresent the decisions of an unelected cabal as those of an impaired president.


“Unelected cabal” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

It’s called a cabinet, and advisors. Trump has them too. Take off the tinfoil hat.


At least Biden still had enough brain function to know he wasn't capable of performing this job 24/7 and therefore he turned over control to those with fully functioning brains. Trump's ego is too big for him to relinquish any power.


He should not have remained as president if he needed to turn over duties to unelected officials.
Things like pardons are ONLY to be done by the president. If someone else, say Jeff Zients, was making decisions about exactly who was to receive pardons, that is illegal.


You do realize, I hope, that Trump issued a blanket pardon for about 1500 Jan. 6 defendants BECAUSE he couldn't be bothered to learn the details of each case. So while he was aware he issued the blanket pardon, it's not as if he carefully considered each and every case like a normal president would. He signed one executive order granting a blanket pardon, even though some cases were more serious than others. At minimum, he should have not pardoned anyone who caused bodily harm to an LEO. But he did.

So spare me any comparisons to Biden on the issue of pardons.



But Trump made that decision, you said so yourself. The American people have no idea who made Biden’s decisions. That is the problem.


The people who believe that Biden did not make his own decisions are those that consume RW media. Biden had slowed down in his last year in office, mentally and physically, but that doesn't mean that he didn't know what he was doing. I actually heard him speak at the WH in December and while he was longwinded and spoke with a faint voice, he knew what he was saying. He shouldn't have run for office a second time, but not because he was out of it and didn't know what he was doing, but because he lacked the stamina for one of the hardest jobs in the world.


This is when I knew he was totally out of it.
He didn't know what he was doing. Plain and simple.



Speaker Mike Johnson confronted Joe Biden about his decision to halt LNG exports to Europe—only to find that Biden had no idea he had done so.

For four years, the U.S. has effectively been without a president.

According to Johnson, Biden was completely unaware of an executive order he had signed.

After battling Biden's staff for nine weeks just to secure a meeting, Johnson finally got his chance—only to be "ambushed" by Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, and Hakeem Jeffries upon arrival.

Biden, seemingly confused by the situation, asked the others to leave so he could speak privately with Johnson.

He had no clue what he had signed.


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Anonymous wrote:Turns out the dummy (Comer) heading the investigation into Biden’s use of the auto pen during his tenure, is himself using digital signatures and autopen in conjunction with the review. Makes sense.

I'm sure you're aware the issue here isn't mere use of an autopen, but rather misuse of an autopen to misrepresent the decisions of an unelected cabal as those of an impaired president.


“Unelected cabal” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

It’s called a cabinet, and advisors. Trump has them too. Take off the tinfoil hat.


At least Biden still had enough brain function to know he wasn't capable of performing this job 24/7 and therefore he turned over control to those with fully functioning brains. Trump's ego is too big for him to relinquish any power.


He should not have remained as president if he needed to turn over duties to unelected officials.
Things like pardons are ONLY to be done by the president. If someone else, say Jeff Zients, was making decisions about exactly who was to receive pardons, that is illegal.


You do realize, I hope, that Trump issued a blanket pardon for about 1500 Jan. 6 defendants BECAUSE he couldn't be bothered to learn the details of each case. So while he was aware he issued the blanket pardon, it's not as if he carefully considered each and every case like a normal president would. He signed one executive order granting a blanket pardon, even though some cases were more serious than others. At minimum, he should have not pardoned anyone who caused bodily harm to an LEO. But he did.

So spare me any comparisons to Biden on the issue of pardons.



But Trump made that decision, you said so yourself. The American people have no idea who made Biden’s decisions. That is the problem.


The people who believe that Biden did not make his own decisions are those that consume RW media. Biden had slowed down in his last year in office, mentally and physically, but that doesn't mean that he didn't know what he was doing. I actually heard him speak at the WH in December and while he was longwinded and spoke with a faint voice, he knew what he was saying. He shouldn't have run for office a second time, but not because he was out of it and didn't know what he was doing, but because he lacked the stamina for one of the hardest jobs in the world.


This is when I knew he was totally out of it.
He didn't know what he was doing. Plain and simple.



Speaker Mike Johnson confronted Joe Biden about his decision to halt LNG exports to Europe—only to find that Biden had no idea he had done so.

For four years, the U.S. has effectively been without a president.

According to Johnson, Biden was completely unaware of an executive order he had signed.

After battling Biden's staff for nine weeks just to secure a meeting, Johnson finally got his chance—only to be "ambushed" by Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, and Hakeem Jeffries upon arrival.

Biden, seemingly confused by the situation, asked the others to leave so he could speak privately with Johnson.

He had no clue what he had signed.




Somebody better rescue us from Trump, then, because Biden is a complete intellectual specimen compared to what we have in the White House right now.
Anonymous
Let’s be real. We have two elderly men with diminishing mental and physical abilities. One had 50 years in public office and a wealth of experience dealing with domestic and foreign policy. Plus, he actually knew geography and had relationships with scores of world leaders. The other guy had none of these things and ZERO qualifications to be president. In the face of diminishing mental faculties that come with age, the person with experience and knowledge is always better than the person without.
Anonymous
When you’re dumb as a rock, undereducated, don’t read briefing memos (or much of anything else), are not a details guy, have a short attention span, and govern “by instinct”…

Below are examples where former President Donald Trump appeared genuinely unaware of significant events, decisions, or policies due to his staff not informing him.

Pause on Military Aid Shipments to Ukraine (2025)
Trump was reportedly unaware of a decision to pause military aid shipments to Ukraine, which was ordered by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. According to reports, Hegseth made the decision without consulting or informing Trump, leading to Trump’s surprise when questioned about it. Trump later reversed the pause after learning of it, indicating he was not initially briefed by his staff.

Airstrikes on Houthi Rebels (2025)
Trump expressed ignorance about U.S. airstrikes on Houthi rebels, a significant military action during his administration. Sources suggest that his national security team, including key aides, did not brief him in advance, leaving him uninformed when the issue was raised publicly. His response, “I don’t know anything about it,” points to a lack of communication from his staff.

Staff Use of Messaging App for War Plans (2025)
Trump was unaware that his staff were using an unclassified messaging app to share sensitive military attack plans, as reported by The Atlantic. When questioned, he asked the reporter for details, indicating that his team had not informed him of this security breach. This suggests a failure by his staff to keep him in the loop on critical national security matters.

Senator Thom Tillis’s Opposition to Nominee Ed Martin (2025)
When asked about Senator Thom Tillis’s public opposition to Ed Martin, Trump’s nominee for U.S. Attorney for D.C., Trump responded, “I didn’t know that.” Tillis’s stance had been public for a day, but Trump’s staff apparently did not brief him on the senator’s position, leaving him uninformed about a key political development related to his own nominee.

Anonymous
I am fine with having some sort of age-related decline testing for presidents. Preferably to be implemented asap
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