Cell phone tower near home

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With 5G there are cell phone towers everywhere. Look it up on the FCC site

This.
It's odd, it seemed to make no sense to use 5G when 4G has a much greater range, reliability, and requires a fraction of the number of towers.
Really got the conspiracy folks worked up with all that.

You’re thinking of millimeter wave spectrum, which is different than 5G. MMW spectrum was used for initial 5G deployments. Because it’s a higher frequency range than spectrum used for 4G, it has a shorter range, but does have faster speed and higher bandwidth (can carry more data). It’s not less reliable, that just depends on how well the coverage is done when it’s deployed. Although it’s also far more sensitive to obstructions, like even trees can stop the signal. So yeah, MMW didn’t make a lot of sense and required tons of small antennas all over the place, like on lampposts or utility poles.

Anyway, 5G is now on a range of frequencies, including ones that were used for 3G and 4G, which has improved coverage.

MMW does require a bunch of additional equipment. In dense, urban environments it would make sense. While Sub-6 is easier to deploy, multipath signal problems and large numbers of users make MMW a better choice. We are getting there. I keep seeing new micro cells in my neighborhood. Mostly along the bigger roads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As long as it’s 20ft away, no issues. Too much paranoia. Signed, RF engineer.

You are not RF engineer.
A distance of 1300 feet is recommended as the minimum. Cell phone towers do emit radiation. There has been 2 well researched studies on this.

DP. Electrical engineer, digital design. You are in far more danger from the WiFi and cellphones in your house. You probably carry your phone next to your genitals.

As for 20ft, I am sure that's the horizontal distance. So unless you are building a house on stilts, you should be fine.

I cannot believe that you are an EE.

Well, I could explain that the lobes from the radiation pattern usually create a dead spot under or near the tower. Antennas aren't point sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as it’s 20ft away, no issues. Too much paranoia. Signed, RF engineer.

You are not RF engineer.
A distance of 1300 feet is recommended as the minimum. Cell phone towers do emit radiation. There has been 2 well researched studies on this.

DP. Electrical engineer, digital design. You are in far more danger from the WiFi and cellphones in your house. You probably carry your phone next to your genitals.

As for 20ft, I am sure that's the horizontal distance. So unless you are building a house on stilts, you should be fine.

I cannot believe that you are an EE.

Well, I could explain that the lobes from the radiation pattern usually create a dead spot under or near the tower. Antennas aren't point sources.

Fine, but common sense is important as well.

https://safespaceprotection.com/emf-health-risks/safe-distance-to-live-from-cell-phone-tower/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as it’s 20ft away, no issues. Too much paranoia. Signed, RF engineer.

You are not RF engineer.
A distance of 1300 feet is recommended as the minimum. Cell phone towers do emit radiation. There has been 2 well researched studies on this.

DP. Electrical engineer, digital design. You are in far more danger from the WiFi and cellphones in your house. You probably carry your phone next to your genitals.

As for 20ft, I am sure that's the horizontal distance. So unless you are building a house on stilts, you should be fine.

I cannot believe that you are an EE.

Well, I could explain that the lobes from the radiation pattern usually create a dead spot under or near the tower. Antennas aren't point sources.

Fine, but common sense is important as well.

https://safespaceprotection.com/emf-health-risks/safe-distance-to-live-from-cell-phone-tower/

They are selling snake oil. These products are pure hokum.

https://www.safespaceprotection.com/product/emf-adapter/
https://www.safespaceprotection.com/product/radiant-room/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With 5G there are cell phone towers everywhere. Look it up on the FCC site

This.
It's odd, it seemed to make no sense to use 5G when 4G has a much greater range, reliability, and requires a fraction of the number of towers.
Really got the conspiracy folks worked up with all that.

You’re thinking of millimeter wave spectrum, which is different than 5G. MMW spectrum was used for initial 5G deployments. Because it’s a higher frequency range than spectrum used for 4G, it has a shorter range, but does have faster speed and higher bandwidth (can carry more data). It’s not less reliable, that just depends on how well the coverage is done when it’s deployed. Although it’s also far more sensitive to obstructions, like even trees can stop the signal. So yeah, MMW didn’t make a lot of sense and required tons of small antennas all over the place, like on lampposts or utility poles.

Anyway, 5G is now on a range of frequencies, including ones that were used for 3G and 4G, which has improved coverage.

MMW does require a bunch of additional equipment. In dense, urban environments it would make sense. While Sub-6 is easier to deploy, multipath signal problems and large numbers of users make MMW a better choice. We are getting there. I keep seeing new micro cells in my neighborhood. Mostly along the bigger roads.

Are micro cells as bad as tall towers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With 5G there are cell phone towers everywhere. Look it up on the FCC site

This.
It's odd, it seemed to make no sense to use 5G when 4G has a much greater range, reliability, and requires a fraction of the number of towers.
Really got the conspiracy folks worked up with all that.

You’re thinking of millimeter wave spectrum, which is different than 5G. MMW spectrum was used for initial 5G deployments. Because it’s a higher frequency range than spectrum used for 4G, it has a shorter range, but does have faster speed and higher bandwidth (can carry more data). It’s not less reliable, that just depends on how well the coverage is done when it’s deployed. Although it’s also far more sensitive to obstructions, like even trees can stop the signal. So yeah, MMW didn’t make a lot of sense and required tons of small antennas all over the place, like on lampposts or utility poles.

Anyway, 5G is now on a range of frequencies, including ones that were used for 3G and 4G, which has improved coverage.

MMW does require a bunch of additional equipment. In dense, urban environments it would make sense. While Sub-6 is easier to deploy, multipath signal problems and large numbers of users make MMW a better choice. We are getting there. I keep seeing new micro cells in my neighborhood. Mostly along the bigger roads.

Are micro cells as bad as tall towers?

There really isn't a consensus that tall towers are bad for your health (unless you are standing in front of the antenna.)

There is some concern that high doses of non-ionizing EMF radiation are harmful. Those doses would need to be much, much higher than you can receive from properly installed equipment. Even if there is some associated risk, the general safety benefits of cellphones would vastly outweigh those risks, given their small size.

This page is fairly neutral: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_device_radiation_and_health

As for "classified as a possible carcinogen," that list is rather long and includes things like aloe vera. People rub that on their skin!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as it’s 20ft away, no issues. Too much paranoia. Signed, RF engineer.

You are not RF engineer.
A distance of 1300 feet is recommended as the minimum. Cell phone towers do emit radiation. There has been 2 well researched studies on this.

DP. Electrical engineer, digital design. You are in far more danger from the WiFi and cellphones in your house. You probably carry your phone next to your genitals.

As for 20ft, I am sure that's the horizontal distance. So unless you are building a house on stilts, you should be fine.

I cannot believe that you are an EE.

Well, I could explain that the lobes from the radiation pattern usually create a dead spot under or near the tower. Antennas aren't point sources.

Fine, but common sense is important as well.

https://safespaceprotection.com/emf-health-risks/safe-distance-to-live-from-cell-phone-tower/

They are selling snake oil. These products are pure hokum.

https://www.safespaceprotection.com/product/emf-adapter/
https://www.safespaceprotection.com/product/radiant-room/

Those products are hilarious

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is your take on a cell phone tower near a residence?
Would you be worried and still buy the property?
I have found some information by researching on the internet, but somehow the towers have gone up all over the county without any input from the residents

Whether or not there is an actual health risk, it will decrease property value, so I would pass unless there was a big enough discount. It’s the same reason why I will also err on passing on properties with easements, shared driveways, etc.

[Anonymous]

Colleague in N Potomac says VZW is putting mm wave cell sites all over the place. Sometimes on a telephone pole. Other times on a regular cell tower. Some are disguised as trees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as it’s 20ft away, no issues. Too much paranoia. Signed, RF engineer.

You are not RF engineer.
A distance of 1300 feet is recommended as the minimum. Cell phone towers do emit radiation. There has been 2 well researched studies on this.

DP.

You don't seem to understand what the word "radiation" means.

[Anonymous]

Love it, I get great reception.

[Anonymous]

Here's a rational explanation of the current state of affairs.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/radiation-exposure/cellular-phone-towers.html

The ACS isn't trying to sell you anything, so I trust them to be more impartial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a rational explanation of the current state of affairs.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/radiation-exposure/cellular-phone-towers.html

The ACS isn't trying to sell you anything, so I trust them to be more impartial.

ACS takes money from the mobile phone companies. Obviously this is what they would say.

As soon as someone breaks away from the influence of money, you see them making rational decisions. Example: RFK Jr making the long overdue decision to keep phones out of school to limit our kids exposure to harmful EMF radiation. It’s a no brainer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a rational explanation of the current state of affairs.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/radiation-exposure/cellular-phone-towers.html

The ACS isn't trying to sell you anything, so I trust them to be more impartial.

ACS takes money from the mobile phone companies. Obviously this is what they would say.

As soon as someone breaks away from the influence of money, you see them making rational decisions. Example: RFK Jr making the long overdue decision to keep phones out of school to limit our kids exposure to harmful EMF radiation. It’s a no brainer.

But the WiFi for the screens is OK?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a rational explanation of the current state of affairs.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/radiation-exposure/cellular-phone-towers.html

The ACS isn't trying to sell you anything, so I trust them to be more impartial.

ACS takes money from the mobile phone companies. Obviously this is what they would say.

As soon as someone breaks away from the influence of money, you see them making rational decisions. Example: RFK Jr making the long overdue decision to keep phones out of school to limit our kids exposure to harmful EMF radiation. It’s a no brainer.

You quote RFK Jr - you have 0 credibility.