Despite mechanics like you paying quite a lot of money for your "diagnostic equipment and OEM interface firmware and devices", you don't always get your diagnostics correct. How many times has a person had their "repairs" done by a mechanic only to find that the vehicle still has the same problem? I myself, have had my car diagnosed and paid for the the repair only to find out that the problem still existed and I've had to pay money to have the car repaired at another garage. Charging someone a diagnostic fee makes it harder for someone to get a second opinion as they will feel that they can't afford to try another mechanic. Sorry, but if you want to charge me a dianostic fee then I'll do my best to never use your workshop. You should get off your high horse. |
This right here is why i only own older cars, All i need for my car is an obd2 scanner. |
This has to be a first for me… in an entire career of turning wrenches and eeking it out as a small business owner, this is the first time Ive ever been accused of being on a high horse. Wow. I’m sure glad there’s people like you in the world who don’t have the first clue about how to do what I do, who can set me straight about all the stuff I’m doing wrong. 😂 |
I'm glad that I amused you. I'm even more pleased that you focused on one aspect of my comment for your reply but that's OK. |
You’re smart. If I didn’t work on cars for a living, I wouldn’t own anything made after the early 00’s. In my opinion, to borrow a term from paleontology, which is a hobby of mine, the use of 0W-20 oil is like the KT Boundary for me. Once manufacturers started using 0W oil, I started seeing shorter service lives on things like cam shafts, timing chain tensioners, main bearings and crankshaft bearings and other rotating parts that typically had lifespans in the 100k miles. Oil consumption also went up then too. But as the other poster said - I’m on a high horse. I probably don’t know what I’m talking about. |
I mean, what else am I supposed to say? Someone didn’t understand why diagnostic estimates aren’t free, so an expert (that’d be me) posted to explain how expensive shop equipment is and that’s why diagnostics cost money…. and you - the person who doesn’t work on cars for a living - quotes me, and tells me I’m wrong. So yeah, I think that’s pretty dang funny. |
THIS! Or go even older and you don't even need a scanner at all, the engines are so simple. |
I don't recall telling you that you were wrong, I was explaining why I don't want to pay for diagnostic fees. But the get off your high horse comment was because you seem to have an arrogance about you. Why would you refer to someone giving me an estimate on the price to paint my home as a "slob?". |
Because every house painter I’ve ever hired has been a slob. Without exception. |
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To the mechanic who is a small business owner - I value your input and would enjoy an "Ask Me Anything" post from you!
OP, I recently had brakes and rotors done, and they were expensive like yours. I googled the OEM part prices listed on invoice and didn't notice a significant markup, and I didn't want cheap brake parts. The labor was not cheap, but not like going to the dealer. I go to a shop that is specialized and knowledgeable about the car brand and do not trust shops that are not bc I figure it could create more problems. I also pay more for oil changes there. If it were my Ford or Chevy, I would be more flexible. As far as DIY, spouse has done brakes, oil changes, spark plugs. It is do-able but not always ideal (except from a savings standpoint). |
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One lesson I've learned about brake pads on four different brands from Toyota, Audi, Mazda and BMW.
Always tell the shop to get the branded brake pads from the dealer. Do not use "OEM approved" replacements. I've had nothing but problems with excessive brake dust from anything other than dealer pads. That causes pitting in the wheels and is a huge pain to keep clean. You can use aftermaket rotors and calipers without a problem. Just not the brake pads. |
| MRIs and cat scans should be free, too. |
They should certainly be cheaper. $20,000 is RIDICULOUS. $1000 out of pocket and no insurance should be the norm for a MRI. |
PP, life doesn't always work the way you want. Someone could say your employer should only pay you 30% of current salary. Would you agree with that? - np |
Your problem is not Freon but an active leak. Freon is permanent and never needs replenishment - unless there are leaks. Do people every add Freon to refrigerators? |