New SEC Telework Thread - no 30 min lunch discussions

[Anonymous]

I thought there was no more telework. Is DOGE still there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought there was no more telework. Is DOGE still there?

OPM approved telework for a few days last week so folks didnt have to deal with all the TACO party road closures.

there is still situational telework if your supervisor approves it, not too often tho

[Anonymous]

If PA just ignored OPM and allowed telework 2-3x a week, nothing would happen. Nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If PA just ignored OPM and allowed telework 2-3x a week, nothing would happen. Nothing.

Agreed. They're not going to fire someone they had to persuade to take the job over TW. There's a chance that PA is a true believer though and wants to fight TW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If PA just ignored OPM and allowed telework 2-3x a week, nothing would happen. Nothing.

Agreed. They're not going to fire someone they had to persuade to take the job over TW. There's a chance that PA is a true believer though and wants to fight TW.

I am starting to think he is a true believer. Good luck to him getting people to go above and beyond for his agenda.

[Anonymous]

You all are just STARTING to think he’s a true believer? Why were you giving him the benefit of the doubt to begin with?

[Anonymous]

I don’t blame anyone for having a different opinion about TW. Reasonable, fair minded people can disagree.

What I DO have a problem with is just throwing out an agreement signed 2 years ago, which folks relied upon to organize their lives,just bc you don’t like it. THAT’s the issue, not TW. And it speaks volumes about anyone who would do that. It’s beyond the pale.

I don’t even like TW. But I also have a sense of justice and fairness.

If you don’t like the CBA, well guess what — it will expire. Wait patiently like any 8 yo would and then negotiate a different one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame anyone for having a different opinion about TW. Reasonable, fair minded people can disagree.

What I DO have a problem with is just throwing out an agreement signed 2 years ago, which folks relied upon to organize their lives,just bc you don’t like it. THAT’s the issue, not TW. And it speaks volumes about anyone who would do that. It’s beyond the pale.

I don’t even like TW. But I also have a sense of justice and fairness.

If you don’t like the CBA, well guess what — it will expire. Wait patiently like any 8 yo would and then negotiate a different one.

Exactly. It’s not about liking or deserving TW, it’s that Paul should realized people relied on a contract. No idea if he’s a lawyer or not nor do I care. More than one person in my group bought a house in the last 5 yrs - and in reliance on the CBA bought further than they would have. Not so far that they can’t commute but far enough that commuting adds 2-4 hrs to their day which was doable 1-2 days/wk and less so 5 days per week.

[Anonymous]

My theory is that people like this never played sports or truly acclimated to the playground. Which is why they like changing rules in the middle of things and enjoy acting arbitrarily and unfairly. Most well adjusted people had those virtues instilled at a young age. Some didn’t.

[Anonymous]

If anything like me up at 5:30 am every day and get back past 5. It is exhausting when you add in family responsibilities.

With a 45 min commute that’s a 10 hour day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame anyone for having a different opinion about TW. Reasonable, fair minded people can disagree.

What I DO have a problem with is just throwing out an agreement signed 2 years ago, which folks relied upon to organize their lives,just bc you don’t like it. THAT’s the issue, not TW. And it speaks volumes about anyone who would do that. It’s beyond the pale.

I don’t even like TW. But I also have a sense of justice and fairness.

If you don’t like the CBA, well guess what — it will expire. Wait patiently like any 8 yo would and then negotiate a different one.

Exactly. It’s not about liking or deserving TW, it’s that Paul should realized people relied on a contract. No idea if he’s a lawyer or not nor do I care. More than one person in my group bought a house in the last 5 yrs - and in reliance on the CBA bought further than they would have. Not so far that they can’t commute but far enough that commuting adds 2-4 hrs to their day which was doable 1-2 days/wk and less so 5 days per week.

Corporate America hates unions. We have been taken over by corporate America.

Govt unions can’t strike, so in reality they a toothless. They were negotiated with to help politics, but clearly the govt vote is no longer being courted.

I’m sorry, the CBA is only valid for 3 years; buying a house 2 hours away from your job is foolish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame anyone for having a different opinion about TW. Reasonable, fair minded people can disagree.

What I DO have a problem with is just throwing out an agreement signed 2 years ago, which folks relied upon to organize their lives,just bc you don’t like it. THAT’s the issue, not TW. And it speaks volumes about anyone who would do that. It’s beyond the pale.

I don’t even like TW. But I also have a sense of justice and fairness.

If you don’t like the CBA, well guess what — it will expire. Wait patiently like any 8 yo would and then negotiate a different one.

Exactly. It’s not about liking or deserving TW, it’s that Paul should realized people relied on a contract. No idea if he’s a lawyer or not nor do I care. More than one person in my group bought a house in the last 5 yrs - and in reliance on the CBA bought further than they would have. Not so far that they can’t commute but far enough that commuting adds 2-4 hrs to their day which was doable 1-2 days/wk and less so 5 days per week.

Corporate America hates unions. We have been taken over by corporate America.

Govt unions can’t strike, so in reality they a toothless. They were negotiated with to help politics, but clearly the govt vote is no longer being courted.

I’m sorry, the CBA is only valid for 3 years; buying a house 2 hours away from your job is foolish.

I agree. I have been bargaining and non bargaining unit at the SEC. We are lucky that we still benefit from higher compensation and benefits due to the union. People need to figure out commutes, move or find another job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame anyone for having a different opinion about TW. Reasonable, fair minded people can disagree.

What I DO have a problem with is just throwing out an agreement signed 2 years ago, which folks relied upon to organize their lives,just bc you don’t like it. THAT’s the issue, not TW. And it speaks volumes about anyone who would do that. It’s beyond the pale.

I don’t even like TW. But I also have a sense of justice and fairness.

If you don’t like the CBA, well guess what — it will expire. Wait patiently like any 8 yo would and then negotiate a different one.

Exactly. It’s not about liking or deserving TW, it’s that Paul should realized people relied on a contract. No idea if he’s a lawyer or not nor do I care. More than one person in my group bought a house in the last 5 yrs - and in reliance on the CBA bought further than they would have. Not so far that they can’t commute but far enough that commuting adds 2-4 hrs to their day which was doable 1-2 days/wk and less so 5 days per week.

Corporate America hates unions. We have been taken over by corporate America.

Govt unions can’t strike, so in reality they a toothless. They were negotiated with to help politics, but clearly the govt vote is no longer being courted.

I’m sorry, the CBA is only valid for 3 years; buying a house 2 hours away from your job is foolish.

I agree. I have been bargaining and non bargaining unit at the SEC. We are lucky that we still benefit from higher compensation and benefits due to the union. People need to figure out commutes, move or find another job.

In this case, someone at the SEC is accepting a long commute in exchange for above standard compensation. Most employees at the SEC could not find a 40 hour a week job earning what they earn.

My guess is the person could find a job earning 100k less in exchange for 2 hours less of commuting a day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame anyone for having a different opinion about TW. Reasonable, fair minded people can disagree.

What I DO have a problem with is just throwing out an agreement signed 2 years ago, which folks relied upon to organize their lives,just bc you don’t like it. THAT’s the issue, not TW. And it speaks volumes about anyone who would do that. It’s beyond the pale.

I don’t even like TW. But I also have a sense of justice and fairness.

If you don’t like the CBA, well guess what — it will expire. Wait patiently like any 8 yo would and then negotiate a different one.

Exactly. It’s not about liking or deserving TW, it’s that Paul should realized people relied on a contract. No idea if he’s a lawyer or not nor do I care. More than one person in my group bought a house in the last 5 yrs - and in reliance on the CBA bought further than they would have. Not so far that they can’t commute but far enough that commuting adds 2-4 hrs to their day which was doable 1-2 days/wk and less so 5 days per week.

Corporate America hates unions. We have been taken over by corporate America.

Govt unions can’t strike, so in reality they a toothless. They were negotiated with to help politics, but clearly the govt vote is no longer being courted.

I’m sorry, the CBA is only valid for 3 years; buying a house 2 hours away from your job is foolish.

I agree. I have been bargaining and non bargaining unit at the SEC. We are lucky that we still benefit from higher compensation and benefits due to the union. People need to figure out commutes, move or find another job.

In this case, someone at the SEC is accepting a long commute in exchange for above standard compensation. Most employees at the SEC could not find a 40 hour a week job earning what they earn.

My guess is the person could find a job earning 100k less in exchange for 2 hours less of commuting a day.

They just need to move. The extreme commute was an unforced error on their part. Just because they wanted more acreage or a nicer house. When they already made a TON of money at SEC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t blame anyone for having a different opinion about TW. Reasonable, fair minded people can disagree.

What I DO have a problem with is just throwing out an agreement signed 2 years ago, which folks relied upon to organize their lives,just bc you don’t like it. THAT’s the issue, not TW. And it speaks volumes about anyone who would do that. It’s beyond the pale.

I don’t even like TW. But I also have a sense of justice and fairness.

If you don’t like the CBA, well guess what — it will expire. Wait patiently like any 8 yo would and then negotiate a different one.

Exactly. It’s not about liking or deserving TW, it’s that Paul should realized people relied on a contract. No idea if he’s a lawyer or not nor do I care. More than one person in my group bought a house in the last 5 yrs - and in reliance on the CBA bought further than they would have. Not so far that they can’t commute but far enough that commuting adds 2-4 hrs to their day which was doable 1-2 days/wk and less so 5 days per week.

Corporate America hates unions. We have been taken over by corporate America.

Govt unions can’t strike, so in reality they a toothless. They were negotiated with to help politics, but clearly the govt vote is no longer being courted.

I’m sorry, the CBA is only valid for 3 years; buying a house 2 hours away from your job is foolish.

I agree. I have been bargaining and non bargaining unit at the SEC. We are lucky that we still benefit from higher compensation and benefits due to the union. People need to figure out commutes, move or find another job.

In this case, someone at the SEC is accepting a long commute in exchange for above standard compensation. Most employees at the SEC could not find a 40 hour a week job earning what they earn.

My guess is the person could find a job earning 100k less in exchange for 2 hours less of commuting a day.

They just need to move. The extreme commute was an unforced error on their part. Just because they wanted more acreage or a nicer house. When they already made a TON of money at SEC.

Nonsense. What was the point of the CBA (or the union) if it could just be thrown out with impunity?

Btw, if they can scrap telework, they can scrap other parts of the CBA too. As well as cut pay.