All secondary classes will have homework next year(even PE)

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Homework in PE would be ludicrous.


NP: we have been instructed that all classes must grade at least one homework assignment per week, for correctness. Math, English, PE, ceramics…doesn’t matter.

Once again vague enough that every school will implement differently.


why do they do this??? This year finally seemed to go well and now they throw these curveballs. This is so much work for the teachers. And will just lead to multiple choice/delta math type homework which is not all sufficient for the honors and AP classes.


This year did not go well. Retakes to 100% was a complete nightmare for teachers. Retakes to 90% isn't much better, but it's better than 100%.

We need to return to 80% cap, allowing zeroes if no attempt was made, and no requirement for accepting late work more than one block period late.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Homework in PE would be ludicrous.


NP: we have been instructed that all classes must grade at least one homework assignment per week, for correctness. Math, English, PE, ceramics…doesn’t matter.

Once again vague enough that every school will implement differently.


why do they do this??? This year finally seemed to go well and now they throw these curveballs. This is so much work for the teachers. And will just lead to multiple choice/delta math type homework which is not all sufficient for the honors and AP classes.


This year did not go well. Retakes to 100% was a complete nightmare for teachers. Retakes to 90% isn't much better, but it's better than 100%.

We need to return to 80% cap, allowing zeroes if no attempt was made, and no requirement for accepting late work more than one block period late.


No we don’t, Scrooge.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The homework is a small part of the grade and I don’t think that adding homework to all classes is a bad thing. MY kid had homework in 7th grade this year, 90% of the time he could finish it in school. He had friends who were working on it at home. I don’t think this is a huge change for Honors and AAP classes.

What thrills me is that they are starting to course correct the retakes. No more 100% retake options. You have to score below a 90% and can only earn up to a 90%. I would guess that they choose that threshold because the majority of retakes were kids scoring 90-93% and wanting an A.


If true that majority of retakes were kids who scored 90-93 and don’t want them to be able to retake, then stop ALL retakes. But if a B+ kid can retake to get an A- and a B kid can retake to get an A- and so on down the line, then an A- kid should be able to retake to improve their grade too. Either allow grade improvement for all or just shut retakes down entirely, which the latter is what assume teachers would prefer.


I agree with this. It’s not fair the A kids are punished. If they get an A- they now aren’t allowed to improve their grade. Meanwhile all the other idiots can get up to an A-. Not fair.
+1. A student can get a 91% and they aren’t allowed to retake, yet another student could get a 68% and do the retake to get a 90%— almost an identical grade to the first student.
Anonymous
Please explain what a rolling gradebook means.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please explain what a rolling gradebook means.


Are you new to FCPS?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Please explain what a rolling gradebook means.


Are you new to FCPS?
Yes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please explain what a rolling gradebook means.


Rolling gradebook means that instead of a student starting with a blank slate in grading each quarter, the grades from a previous quarter are the starting grade for a new quarter.

So if a student ends a quarter with a grade of 89, then that 89 "rolls over" to the next quarter and the student starts the new quarter with an 89 as their starting grade.
Anonymous
It’s pretty easy to get around mandatory graded for correctness homework

Teacher teams will give a piece of homework that has one subjective question worth one point

In your opinion, what was the most significant battle of the American Revolution and why?

Worth 1 point

Then kids will “do” it and get 1/1.

So as a former teacher, I’ll tell you all don’t worry about that at all. That loop hole is easily exploited and gatehouse isn’t going to go “monitor” things and principals and asst principals have far better things to concern themselves with
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The homework is a small part of the grade and I don’t think that adding homework to all classes is a bad thing. MY kid had homework in 7th grade this year, 90% of the time he could finish it in school. He had friends who were working on it at home. I don’t think this is a huge change for Honors and AAP classes.

What thrills me is that they are starting to course correct the retakes. No more 100% retake options. You have to score below a 90% and can only earn up to a 90%. I would guess that they choose that threshold because the majority of retakes were kids scoring 90-93% and wanting an A.


The retakers were mostly kids who couldn't live with themselves unless they had high 90%s. So tiresome.

Personally, I am glad they dropped the threshold but they should have dropped it to 80%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The homework is a small part of the grade and I don’t think that adding homework to all classes is a bad thing. MY kid had homework in 7th grade this year, 90% of the time he could finish it in school. He had friends who were working on it at home. I don’t think this is a huge change for Honors and AAP classes.

What thrills me is that they are starting to course correct the retakes. No more 100% retake options. You have to score below a 90% and can only earn up to a 90%. I would guess that they choose that threshold because the majority of retakes were kids scoring 90-93% and wanting an A.


If true that majority of retakes were kids who scored 90-93 and don’t want them to be able to retake, then stop ALL retakes. But if a B+ kid can retake to get an A- and a B kid can retake to get an A- and so on down the line, then an A- kid should be able to retake to improve their grade too. Either allow grade improvement for all or just shut retakes down entirely, which the latter is what assume teachers would prefer.


I agree with this. It’s not fair the A kids are punished. If they get an A- they now aren’t allowed to improve their grade. Meanwhile all the other idiots can get up to an A-. Not fair.
+1. A student can get a 91% and they aren’t allowed to retake, yet another student could get a 68% and do the retake to get a 90%— almost an identical grade to the first student.


Get over yourself! The A- kid will be fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Homework in PE would be ludicrous.


NP: we have been instructed that all classes must grade at least one homework assignment per week, for correctness. Math, English, PE, ceramics…doesn’t matter.

Once again vague enough that every school will implement differently.


why do they do this??? This year finally seemed to go well and now they throw these curveballs. This is so much work for the teachers. And will just lead to multiple choice/delta math type homework which is not all sufficient for the honors and AP classes.


This year did not go well. Retakes to 100% was a complete nightmare for teachers. Retakes to 90% isn't much better, but it's better than 100%.

We need to return to 80% cap, allowing zeroes if no attempt was made, and no requirement for accepting late work more than one block period late.


No we don’t, Scrooge.


We need a policy that only allows retakes for those scoring below 80%. Teachers shouldn't always be bogged down doing retakes for kids who just can't live with their Bs.
Anonymous
90% is still too high.

Bring the threshold down.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The homework is a small part of the grade and I don’t think that adding homework to all classes is a bad thing. MY kid had homework in 7th grade this year, 90% of the time he could finish it in school. He had friends who were working on it at home. I don’t think this is a huge change for Honors and AAP classes.

What thrills me is that they are starting to course correct the retakes. No more 100% retake options. You have to score below a 90% and can only earn up to a 90%. I would guess that they choose that threshold because the majority of retakes were kids scoring 90-93% and wanting an A.


If true that majority of retakes were kids who scored 90-93 and don’t want them to be able to retake, then stop ALL retakes. But if a B+ kid can retake to get an A- and a B kid can retake to get an A- and so on down the line, then an A- kid should be able to retake to improve their grade too. Either allow grade improvement for all or just shut retakes down entirely, which the latter is what assume teachers would prefer.


Tell your child to work harder:

Reassessment: The summative reassessment maximum will be set at 90%. This means that students who receive lower than a 90% on a summative assessment will be eligible for one reassessment attempt, and the maximum score which can be earned on the reassessment will be capped at 90%.


Absolutely fine with the kids should work harder approach as long as it is ALL kids and shut down all reassessment opportunities. Eliminate all retakes or don’t, but cut-off for some is what am against. And if the argument is it’s all the A minus kids only that do retakes, then shutting down retakes for all as the solution should not bother anyone else.


Perhaps I am misunderstanding your comment, but the policy has to be this way. If the max score on a retake is capped at 90%, there is no benefit for a kid who scored 90% or better in retaking the test. The capped value would prevent their score from improving.


Should worthy be everyone can retake or not at all. No solid argument to support why kid that scores 90 cannot try to improve their grade other than some people think they shouldn’t. If that is the case then I think a B and a C are a good and passing grade and so is a D so the only kids that should be allowed to retake are those that failed. Others earned the grade they got and should be set at that grade. Or if people think any other passing grade should get a chance to improve, then all should be allowed chance to retake and up to A/100.


I completely agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please explain what a rolling gradebook means.


A rolling gradebook is 1 year long gradebook. I just keep adding to the same spreadsheet all year. Quarter grades are just progress reports. There is no averaging at the end (unless you have a separate weighted final exam).

Proponents like that it is fairer in that every test is equally weighted (vs. a quarter that might have 1 or 2 or 3 tests, making them worth different percents), and better for the kids because there are no surprises at the end. They know exactly what they have going into the final exam. It is easier for teachers in that we can give exams the last week of the quarter and not worry about squeezing in retakes before the gradebook closes, as I can edit the Q1 test score in Q2 (or even in June) since it's all one sheet.

Critics don't like that it because a child who does poorly at the beginning of the year has to look at those poor grades all year--they don't "disappear" in a Q1 gradebook that they can forget about. They don't like that in June a 10 point assignment doesn't change the overall grade more than 0.1% because there are 1000 points in the gradebook by this time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The homework is a small part of the grade and I don’t think that adding homework to all classes is a bad thing. MY kid had homework in 7th grade this year, 90% of the time he could finish it in school. He had friends who were working on it at home. I don’t think this is a huge change for Honors and AAP classes.

What thrills me is that they are starting to course correct the retakes. No more 100% retake options. You have to score below a 90% and can only earn up to a 90%. I would guess that they choose that threshold because the majority of retakes were kids scoring 90-93% and wanting an A.


If true that majority of retakes were kids who scored 90-93 and don’t want them to be able to retake, then stop ALL retakes. But if a B+ kid can retake to get an A- and a B kid can retake to get an A- and so on down the line, then an A- kid should be able to retake to improve their grade too. Either allow grade improvement for all or just shut retakes down entirely, which the latter is what assume teachers would prefer.


Tell your child to work harder:

Reassessment: The summative reassessment maximum will be set at 90%. This means that students who receive lower than a 90% on a summative assessment will be eligible for one reassessment attempt, and the maximum score which can be earned on the reassessment will be capped at 90%.


Absolutely fine with the kids should work harder approach as long as it is ALL kids and shut down all reassessment opportunities. Eliminate all retakes or don’t, but cut-off for some is what am against. And if the argument is it’s all the A minus kids only that do retakes, then shutting down retakes for all as the solution should not bother anyone else.


Perhaps I am misunderstanding your comment, but the policy has to be this way. If the max score on a retake is capped at 90%, there is no benefit for a kid who scored 90% or better in retaking the test. The capped value would prevent their score from improving.


Should worthy be everyone can retake or not at all. No solid argument to support why kid that scores 90 cannot try to improve their grade other than some people think they shouldn’t. If that is the case then I think a B and a C are a good and passing grade and so is a D so the only kids that should be allowed to retake are those that failed. Others earned the grade they got and should be set at that grade. Or if people think any other passing grade should get a chance to improve, then all should be allowed chance to retake and up to A/100.


I completely agree.


I agree that kids that earned Bs shouldn't be allowed to retake. I think it's kids that need "remediation" or have disabilities that get to retake and no one else and I will advocate for that change.
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