Does anyone know what colleges are planning for if international students evaporate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:yes, medical residents are the work horses of most of America's hospitals. We are loosing thousands and thousands of manpower hours and there is no one to replace them.

The more rural, the greater the impact because residency spots are entirely filled with internationals grads (because US grads don't want these spots). So might have a hospital that has 20 attending physicians in Internal Medicine and 20 residents lose half their workforce. It's going to be nuts. These doctors provide inpatient coverage and outpatient clinic coverage too. I.e. half the town doctors that people see for their diabetes, blood pressures, etc will poof! And there is no one to replace them.
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These are work visas, not education visas, and unrelated to colleges.

aren't medical residents on education visas?

They are on J visas, not F visas, and can only stay two years

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What portion of TAs are grad students who are newly enrolled at the university?

I would imagine 100%? Aren't all TAs grad students at the same school?

No, the question is how many TAs are typically fresh-off-the-plane from another country, such that this fall's TAs are currently located in their home country awaiting a visa, and accordingly, possibly impacted by the pause on the scheduling of new appointments for student visas.

Or Chinese students and any other group Steven Miller decides to push around by revoking their existing Visas. Incoming new international students with other options are likely to just bail. Universities will not know this until the next deadline for housing deposits or registration. Students don’t call the university if they decide not to go, they just stop responding. This pushes out any knowledge of how much damage was done. Existing international students are likely to stick it out until they are revoked or denied entry. Some at the undergraduate level or early grad level may start on working on transferring to Canada, EU, Australia etc for the next cycle.

How are Chinese spies at our colleges a good thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only spies are allowed out of China. Ask me how I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:International students do not pay full price on average.

See below

$26,800 is the average aid for international students at U.S. colleges

Analysis of 2022-2023 higher education data discloses U.S. colleges awarded international students $26,800 in financial aid on average last year.

However, packages tripled to nearly $77,000 among the most internationally-friendly schools.

https://www.skillademia.com/statistics/scholarship-statistics/

That’s the average for those who receive aid. If you go to the common data set for many schools you’ll see only a percentage of international students receive aid. The rest are full pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:International students do not pay full price on average.

See below

$26,800 is the average aid for international students at U.S. colleges

Analysis of 2022-2023 higher education data discloses U.S. colleges awarded international students $26,800 in financial aid on average last year.

However, packages tripled to nearly $77,000 among the most internationally-friendly schools.

https://www.skillademia.com/statistics/scholarship-statistics/

That’s the average for those who receive aid. If you go to the common data set for many schools you’ll see only a percentage of international students receive aid. The rest are full pay.

All of the Chinese are full pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fewer courses offered, maybe alternate semesters so could take longer for Yankee Doodle Dandy to graduate. Higher tuition.

I’m worried about this. It’s not just engineering, bio, neuroscience that depend on TAs and are impacted ( impacted meaning they have the max students they can handle which is always more than they can actually handle) but Econ and math will be a problem too. My kid wants to double major and has enough incoming credits to do it in four years easy but if the courses become even harder to get into I don’t know how long it will take.

[Anonymous]

We have not benefited from funding foreign kids at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:International students do not pay full price on average.

See below

$26,800 is the average aid for international students at U.S. colleges

Analysis of 2022-2023 higher education data discloses U.S. colleges awarded international students $26,800 in financial aid on average last year.

However, packages tripled to nearly $77,000 among the most internationally-friendly schools.

https://www.skillademia.com/statistics/scholarship-statistics/

That’s the average for those who receive aid. If you go to the common data set for many schools you’ll see only a percentage of international students receive aid. The rest are full pay.

All of the Chinese are full pay.

Not true at all. There are countless Chinese on Reddit and many of them get aid.

DCUM likes to think that all the internationals are rich and bankrolling their respective universities. The reality is that many of them get aid--from need blind institutions like the Ivies and need-aware institutions like third tier liberal arts schools that are desperate for high achieving students.

[Anonymous]

16:01 has zero evidence, of course.

[Anonymous]

Chinese kids who are allowed to come to our colleges don’t need financial help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have not benefited from funding foreign kids at all.

I disagree that we fund them but we certainly benefit from more than just their tuition. International students pump 44 billion into the US economy. Our students benefits from being taught by the most qualified TAs and Professors. Our students benefit from tagging onto grants and research spearheaded by many international scholars and scientists. Our students will not benefit from being educated by some moronic MAGA incel.

Have fun with doctors next time you go to the hospital. Be sure to wear your maga hat so they can wheel you directly to the university morgue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16:01 has zero evidence, of course.

DP. 72% of international undergrads at Harvard receive institutional grants that amount to more than full tuition, i.e. some part of their living expenses is also covered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:International students do not pay full price on average.

See below

$26,800 is the average aid for international students at U.S. colleges

Analysis of 2022-2023 higher education data discloses U.S. colleges awarded international students $26,800 in financial aid on average last year.

However, packages tripled to nearly $77,000 among the most internationally-friendly schools.

https://www.skillademia.com/statistics/scholarship-statistics/

American taxpayers are DONE with paying for that average price tag of $26,800. for every single foreign college kid.

Anyone here who has the cash to pay for foreigners is welcome to do so.

Most of us are breaking our backs to help our own kids afford college.

[Anonymous]

We should be encouraging more students from diverse ideological backgrounds to study.

While the Communist Party of China has some influence over the day to day affairs in China, there has never been any evidence that China has ever tried to misappropriate US technology.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the sarcasm, 16:18.