Ivy WL and International Student Disruption

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He changes his mind frequently, just a squirrel running across the sidewalk sends him into a distracted change. With that in mind, no one will be making changes to their plans. Colleges will stick to their incoming student body, and students to their plan.

Yes. Now he’s pardoning reality stars, rich tax evaders and embezzlers.

He’s so frickin scattered.

Trophy wives, Harvard bad, big golden dome anti-missile shield for the US- $175 billion (also not possible for long range large missiles and size of the US…and especially when you stop some of the brightest minds from coming to the US), Zelensky’s mouth, Canada 51st state, Gulf of America, Harvard bad, blah blah

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It appears very targeted. I'd expect this to stand up in court. Expect colleges to have to adapt quickly. Hopefully they did their own vetting before they admitted them:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14754363/donald-trump-america-education-business-halting-student-visas.html

Halting all visa applications is literally the opposite of targeted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears very targeted. I'd expect this to stand up in court. Expect colleges to have to adapt quickly. Hopefully they did their own vetting before they admitted them:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14754363/donald-trump-america-education-business-halting-student-visas.html

Halting all visa applications is literally the opposite of targeted.

It’s only 3 kids of visas. Not all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What portion of newly-admitted internationals do not have a visa appt yet? I'm not familiar with what this timeline typically looks like.

A large portion. Visa applications have to be scheduled after receiving the I20 from the schools. And there is typically a long wait. June-Aug is the bulk of it. This new directive to whet social media accounts will slow things down considerably.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What portion of newly-admitted internationals do not have a visa appt yet? I'm not familiar with what this timeline typically looks like.

A large portion. Visa applications have to be scheduled after receiving the I20 from the schools. And there is typically a long wait. June-Aug is when the bulk of the visas are obtained. This new directive will slow things down considerably.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What portion of newly-admitted internationals do not have a visa appt yet? I'm not familiar with what this timeline typically looks like.

A large portion. Visa applications have to be scheduled after receiving the I20 from the schools. And there is typically a long wait. June-Aug is when the bulk of the visas are obtained. This new directive will slow things down considerably.

So how can it NOT impact matriculation (and in turn, WLs)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think any of this will happen.

Trump will be blocked.

I agree the courts will block this. But even so, how can all of this not have an effect?

It’s not hard to imagine at least some (many?) international students will decide to study elsewhere (or take a gap year?) in an abundance of caution.

[Anonymous]

International students have been counseled to take a gap year just in case there is an issue. It is a sound strategy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:International students have been counseled to take a gap year just in case there is an issue. It is a sound strategy.

Counseled by which school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:International students have been counseled to take a gap year just in case there is an issue. It is a sound strategy.

Counseled by which school?

By college consultants

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:International students have been counseled to take a gap year just in case there is an issue. It is a sound strategy.

Counseled by which school?

By college consultants

How do you know this?

[Anonymous]

If internationals are asked to take gap year, then next year admissions will be even harder…

[Anonymous]

it's like Covid. When there is uncertainty, better to take a gap year when more of the unknowns are sorted out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not seeing any panicked chatter on parent group yet.

Why would US parents be panicked?

DP. I am guessing that PP is referring to parents of newly-admitted internationals in the parent FB group.

Why would that parent be in that FB group of newly-admitted international student parents? Are you assuming they are international?

Holy cow, why was this so difficult. I’m in a group for parents of said school, included in that group are internationals who are also parents of said school.

Yeah, the PP seems dense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:International students have been counseled to take a gap year just in case there is an issue. It is a sound strategy.

Counseled by which school?

By college consultants

How do you know this?

Np. There's a new admissions podcast out this week that is encouraging international kids admitted to Harvard from the fall to make "backup" plans just to be safe.