Training Before School

[Anonymous]

Instagram: Striving Sports Parent
Kumon: Striving Academic Parent.
Discuss.

[Anonymous]

My DD is playing U16 ECNL for context.

She will work out once or twice a week in the morning (6:30 AM) with several friends/teammates at a local place with a trainer. They focus on speed, agility and strength training. Trainer is well regarded and plans to work with the club directly next year on a program.

School doesn't start until 9AM, so there's plenty of time. And now that she is driving, makes it even easier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

This is hilarious, a bunch of judgmental parents posting on a blog which contains a plethora of contradictory comments about social media harm. Doesn’t get much better than this for comedic relief. I love you guys/gals, do you see the irony?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

This is hilarious, a bunch of judgmental parents posting on a blog which contains a plethora of contradictory comments about social media harm. Doesn’t get much better than this for comedic relief. I love you guys/gals, do you see the irony?

Parents aren't ES age kids though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Instagram: Striving Sports Parent
Kumon: Striving Academic Parent.
Discuss.

Interesting you immediately jumped to extra tutoring outside of school when the comment was about basic reading and academics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

This is hilarious, a bunch of judgmental parents posting on a blog which contains a plethora of contradictory comments about social media harm. Doesn’t get much better than this for comedic relief. I love you guys/gals, do you see the irony?

No one on here does! Many threads here starts off in a place of judgement - usually a parent trying to get validation of their judgey views. Then it spirals when they’re called out on it and they in turn feel judged.

It can be quite entertaining in its predictability.

[Anonymous]

Especially soccer parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

A parent can get information posted on Instagram themselves from the clubs. Their kid doesn't need an instagram account! Elementary school! That's completely insane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

A parent can get information posted on Instagram themselves from the clubs. Their kid doesn't need an instagram account! Elementary school! That's completely insane.

Yup.

[Anonymous]

But then the child doesn’t have visibility on SM for coaches to review. How will they ever make the U11 travel roster!?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

A parent can get information posted on Instagram themselves from the clubs. Their kid doesn't need an instagram account! Elementary school! That's completely insane.

IG always does more harm than good for young kids
They can't handle the negative comments or the jealousy and envy

Then some kids (and parents) lose touch with reality thinking they are now a celebrity and successful star
Until real reality comes crashing the party

[Anonymous]

Ultimately, 98% of these children will likely pursue a career as gym teachers—a respectable profession, though not the aspiration their parents may have envisioned. Of the remaining 2%, 1% may attend a Division 3 school alongside many others, 0.5% might gain admission to a prestigious school but not for soccer, and the final 0.5% could make it to a Division 1 school, though many struggle to balance the demands of sports at that level. Sadly, all of them may miss out on enjoying their youth because their parents were chasing a dream.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard about alot of high-level kids who train before school. I am curious, is this set up by the school, club or privately by a few kids and families?

I had no idea until I set up an IG account for my kid. We are on the 2nd team and a few kids will do some stuff before ES (ES has a late start). But our top team (a few are very high level) kids put in some work before school and the parents post it to IG. It is mostly, in home fitness stuff and some ball mastery stuff in a living room, basement or workout room. And some of those kids are faster, better than the other kids; it is apparent in person. My kid watches cartoons and eats cereal...but yeah, some kids are being beaten into shape by the parent before school. Not sure of the consistency, but for ES, there is time to put in 20-30 min of work easily at home. And no, this is not something the clubs have anything to do with.

I really wonder how that's going to turn out in the long run if it's not being driven by the child... which it almost certainly isn't despite what some parents might say. I can't imagine it would occur to most ES age kids to do structured training/practice before school if a parent didn't put the idea in their head.

IMO if it isn't the kid insisting on doing the early morning workouts in addition to the usual practices after school, they probably aren't meant for college level or other elite level sports. They will stop doing it when someone isn't hovering over them to get it done. The drive has to come from within.

Aren't parents putting the idea of reading and other academic activities in kids heads?
Or we should let kids spearhead that on their own too, or they aren't meant for college or the workplace

Are you placing sports at the same level as academics?

What's the difference in the context of parents involvement in having kids put in extra work for success?

Wow you are not too smart. I guess you didn't focus on school enough growing up! Sports should be nowhere near the same level as athletics. I was a D1 scholarship athlete. My parents made it very clear that academics came first and that they would pull me from my sport if my grades slipped due to not spending enough time studying. My sport helped me get college paid for, but I would have gotten in on academics either way. I am now a middle aged parent and guess what I use on a daily basis in order to pay the bills? I'll give you a hint -- not my athletic prowess. That comes in handy during the 45 min I spend at the gym, but no one is paying me to work out. The vast majority of children are better off focusing more on school than sports. If they are good enough at a sport to excel in it while also excelling at academics, great. If they are sacrificing learning and academic growth for a sport, that is bad parenting and setting them up for struggles later in life.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard about alot of high-level kids who train before school. I am curious, is this set up by the school, club or privately by a few kids and families?

I had no idea until I set up an IG account for my kid. We are on the 2nd team and a few kids will do some stuff before ES (ES has a late start). But our top team (a few are very high level) kids put in some work before school and the parents post it to IG. It is mostly, in home fitness stuff and some ball mastery stuff in a living room, basement or workout room. And some of those kids are faster, better than the other kids; it is apparent in person. My kid watches cartoons and eats cereal...but yeah, some kids are being beaten into shape by the parent before school. Not sure of the consistency, but for ES, there is time to put in 20-30 min of work easily at home. And no, this is not something the clubs have anything to do with.

I really wonder how that's going to turn out in the long run if it's not being driven by the child... which it almost certainly isn't despite what some parents might say. I can't imagine it would occur to most ES age kids to do structured training/practice before school if a parent didn't put the idea in their head.

IMO if it isn't the kid insisting on doing the early morning workouts in addition to the usual practices after school, they probably aren't meant for college level or other elite level sports. They will stop doing it when someone isn't hovering over them to get it done. The drive has to come from within.

Aren't parents putting the idea of reading and other academic activities in kids heads?
Or we should let kids spearhead that on their own too, or they aren't meant for college or the workplace

Are you placing sports at the same level as academics?

What's the difference in the context of parents involvement in having kids put in extra work for success?

Wow you are not too smart. I guess you didn't focus on school enough growing up! Sports should be nowhere near the same level as athletics. I was a D1 scholarship athlete. My parents made it very clear that academics came first and that they would pull me from my sport if my grades slipped due to not spending enough time studying. My sport helped me get college paid for, but I would have gotten in on academics either way. I am now a middle aged parent and guess what I use on a daily basis in order to pay the bills? I'll give you a hint -- not my athletic prowess. That comes in handy during the 45 min I spend at the gym, but no one is paying me to work out. The vast majority of children are better off focusing more on school than sports. If they are good enough at a sport to excel in it while also excelling at academics, great. If they are sacrificing learning and academic growth for a sport, that is bad parenting and setting them up for struggles later in life.

*That second sentence should have said "sports should be nowhere near the same level as academics"

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Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

A parent can get information posted on Instagram themselves from the clubs. Their kid doesn't need an instagram account! Elementary school! That's completely insane.

I know people who have an Insta account for their 8yos private training highlights.

I keep my distance.