Training Before School

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Anonymous wrote:HS in moco starts at 745. No idea how kids are getting in a training session before that.

Pure dedication and drive to be the best. Get up at 5am, stretching and aerobics along with ball control and shooting exercises. Most of these kids have basement or backyard practice areas. Got to give them credit for their work effort to be the best and their folks for supporting them.

Barf.

Assume your kid is still in rec?

Try again.

Pre-rec?

[Anonymous]

I think OP seems like he knows whats up. Props we move similiarly and its all contingent on my DD telling me what they want to do. I check in monthly becuase its my time too, and I don't want to waste my hours either. She's been critized for years for being on too many teams and opening herself up to injuries playing with boys and too often. The reality is it was all networking so by u16 this year she was able to pick her team based on her previous experiences with players, coaches and the time commitments. Could not agree more about the Violinist to Julliard. The hate is real and beneficial to no one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jackson Reed girls have their practice before school. It’s mostly just a way to manage demand for field space.

Wow. So they have HS before school then practice with their clubs after?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow, did that go off the rails in a million directions fast. I guess we have to assemble the training on our own. I did want to address some of the responses so we can have more productive conversations in the future:

My child is in elementary school. All of my kids played soccer but this child is the only one who plays travel because they are driven.

ALOT of players their age, including some our teammates, are training in the mornings. My child trains on their own for one hour most mornings but I would like it to be in a group setting since they are going to do it anyway. I don't allow them to train with their teammates because I do prioritize sleep and their teammates start too early for my child to get the sleep I require based on their schedule. These are kids in elite private schools who prioritize education. I wish the parents did prioritize sleep more but that is not my lane.

As a society, we do not judge a child who practices the violin for 4 hours a day with the pursuit of attending Juilliard so we need to chill a little bit on the judgment in sports. My other kids work hard in other non-sports pursuits but this child LOVES soccer so I am forced to learn how to best position them to succeed.

We are not on IG and do not post any of their highlights or workouts. Parents, please note, social media has DEVASTING effects on kids. None of my kids have social media accounts. I saw one child ask their parents while walking off the field did their parent catch their move so they can post it on IG. I have recently joined IG solely for the purpose of learning this soccer landscape and it is a little shocking how many parents have IG's set up for their kids. The one thing I have noticed is most of the top players don't post much. I know one local kid has been bullied and their parent was forced to take down the account. I have a friend who is a tech lobbyist and I have simply followed his patterns as he warned me years ago of the privacy impact of social media and the negative impact it has on children and teens, especially girls. He represents these companies so I simply follow his lead. Networking is important in this sport and you can create networks by playing in different environments, summer camps, club trainings as well as guesting outside of your primary club. All more beneficial than IG.

Finally, what are kids doing with their 168 hours a week? Do parents even know? My kid does not have a device but all of his friends do. Is their screen time usage supporting becoming a CEO? My kid does not play video games and is not on social media. They are not allowed to play until homework is done and they are required to read a minimum of 30 minutes a day on top of advanced math classes outside of school. They still have ALOT of time to play soccer.

I don't publicly judge the anxiety parents show about about changing to school year, which alphabet league, team 1 vs team 2 etc., so if someone asks a high-level question, please sit it out if it does not apply to you. If you don't have a high-level kid in soccer, I am sure they are high-level in something and you should pay more attention to your kids to find out what they are passionate about than judging someone else's parenting choices.

Listen to yourself:

My child is in elementary school. All of my kids played soccer but this child is the only one who plays travel because they are driven.

50:1 odds you are going to drive your child out of travel sports by U13.

OP sounds thoughtful in his analysis. Check out the rest of the threads in this forum. That is the anxiety that pushes kids out of youth soccer. You have a kid trying to make an A team while not training outside of practice.

You attacking someone is who not attacking but looking for answers to resolve the drive of a high-level athlete.

European kids are recruited at age 7 so these conversations happen. If OP kids burns out, the family saves thousands of dollars knowing that the kids desire to be high-level what not as strong as it seems. That is the reality of high-level athletics.

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Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

A parent can get information posted on Instagram themselves from the clubs. Their kid doesn't need an instagram account! Elementary school! That's completely insane.

I know people who have an Insta account for their 8yos private training highlights.

I keep my distance.

How did we ever exist without social media. Or maybe the question is can we survive with social media.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An instagram account for a kid in ES? Yikes!

There are hundreds of thousands of them. Coaches do look at them and a lot of the clubs & coaches only post info to IG.

I think it’s out of control.

A parent can get information posted on Instagram themselves from the clubs. Their kid doesn't need an instagram account! Elementary school! That's completely insane.

I know people who have an Insta account for their 8yos private training highlights.

I keep my distance.

How did we ever exist without social media. Or maybe the question is can we survive with social media.

It works well in most instances for the people who know how to separate virtual from real

[Anonymous]

My kid trains from 6-7:30 2 days a week with a small group of other kids and a trainer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow, did that go off the rails in a million directions fast. I guess we have to assemble the training on our own. I did want to address some of the responses so we can have more productive conversations in the future:

My child is in elementary school. All of my kids played soccer but this child is the only one who plays travel because they are driven.

ALOT of players their age, including some our teammates, are training in the mornings. My child trains on their own for one hour most mornings but I would like it to be in a group setting since they are going to do it anyway. I don't allow them to train with their teammates because I do prioritize sleep and their teammates start too early for my child to get the sleep I require based on their schedule. These are kids in elite private schools who prioritize education. I wish the parents did prioritize sleep more but that is not my lane.

As a society, we do not judge a child who practices the violin for 4 hours a day with the pursuit of attending Juilliard so we need to chill a little bit on the judgment in sports. My other kids work hard in other non-sports pursuits but this child LOVES soccer so I am forced to learn how to best position them to succeed.

We are not on IG and do not post any of their highlights or workouts. Parents, please note, social media has DEVASTING effects on kids. None of my kids have social media accounts. I saw one child ask their parents while walking off the field did their parent catch their move so they can post it on IG. I have recently joined IG solely for the purpose of learning this soccer landscape and it is a little shocking how many parents have IG's set up for their kids. The one thing I have noticed is most of the top players don't post much. I know one local kid has been bullied and their parent was forced to take down the account. I have a friend who is a tech lobbyist and I have simply followed his patterns as he warned me years ago of the privacy impact of social media and the negative impact it has on children and teens, especially girls. He represents these companies so I simply follow his lead. Networking is important in this sport and you can create networks by playing in different environments, summer camps, club trainings as well as guesting outside of your primary club. All more beneficial than IG.

Finally, what are kids doing with their 168 hours a week? Do parents even know? My kid does not have a device but all of his friends do. Is their screen time usage supporting becoming a CEO? My kid does not play video games and is not on social media. They are not allowed to play until homework is done and they are required to read a minimum of 30 minutes a day on top of advanced math classes outside of school. They still have ALOT of time to play soccer.

I don't publicly judge the anxiety parents show about about changing to school year, which alphabet league, team 1 vs team 2 etc., so if someone asks a high-level question, please sit it out if it does not apply to you. If you don't have a high-level kid in soccer, I am sure they are high-level in something and you should pay more attention to your kids to find out what they are passionate about than judging someone else's parenting choices.

A lot of figure skaters, hockey players, and swimmers train before school. If you want to do it, do it. You don't need to defend yourself to less driven people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow, did that go off the rails in a million directions fast. I guess we have to assemble the training on our own. I did want to address some of the responses so we can have more productive conversations in the future:

My child is in elementary school. All of my kids played soccer but this child is the only one who plays travel because they are driven.

ALOT of players their age, including some our teammates, are training in the mornings. My child trains on their own for one hour most mornings but I would like it to be in a group setting since they are going to do it anyway. I don't allow them to train with their teammates because I do prioritize sleep and their teammates start too early for my child to get the sleep I require based on their schedule. These are kids in elite private schools who prioritize education. I wish the parents did prioritize sleep more but that is not my lane.

As a society, we do not judge a child who practices the violin for 4 hours a day with the pursuit of attending Juilliard so we need to chill a little bit on the judgment in sports. My other kids work hard in other non-sports pursuits but this child LOVES soccer so I am forced to learn how to best position them to succeed.

We are not on IG and do not post any of their highlights or workouts. Parents, please note, social media has DEVASTING effects on kids. None of my kids have social media accounts. I saw one child ask their parents while walking off the field did their parent catch their move so they can post it on IG. I have recently joined IG solely for the purpose of learning this soccer landscape and it is a little shocking how many parents have IG's set up for their kids. The one thing I have noticed is most of the top players don't post much. I know one local kid has been bullied and their parent was forced to take down the account. I have a friend who is a tech lobbyist and I have simply followed his patterns as he warned me years ago of the privacy impact of social media and the negative impact it has on children and teens, especially girls. He represents these companies so I simply follow his lead. Networking is important in this sport and you can create networks by playing in different environments, summer camps, club trainings as well as guesting outside of your primary club. All more beneficial than IG.

Finally, what are kids doing with their 168 hours a week? Do parents even know? My kid does not have a device but all of his friends do. Is their screen time usage supporting becoming a CEO? My kid does not play video games and is not on social media. They are not allowed to play until homework is done and they are required to read a minimum of 30 minutes a day on top of advanced math classes outside of school. They still have ALOT of time to play soccer.

I don't publicly judge the anxiety parents show about about changing to school year, which alphabet league, team 1 vs team 2 etc., so if someone asks a high-level question, please sit it out if it does not apply to you. If you don't have a high-level kid in soccer, I am sure they are high-level in something and you should pay more attention to your kids to find out what they are passionate about than judging someone else's parenting choices.

A lot of figure skaters, hockey players, and swimmers train before school. If you want to do it, do it. You don't need to defend yourself to less driven people.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow, did that go off the rails in a million directions fast. I guess we have to assemble the training on our own. I did want to address some of the responses so we can have more productive conversations in the future:

My child is in elementary school. All of my kids played soccer but this child is the only one who plays travel because they are driven.

ALOT of players their age, including some our teammates, are training in the mornings. My child trains on their own for one hour most mornings but I would like it to be in a group setting since they are going to do it anyway. I don't allow them to train with their teammates because I do prioritize sleep and their teammates start too early for my child to get the sleep I require based on their schedule. These are kids in elite private schools who prioritize education. I wish the parents did prioritize sleep more but that is not my lane.

As a society, we do not judge a child who practices the violin for 4 hours a day with the pursuit of attending Juilliard so we need to chill a little bit on the judgment in sports. My other kids work hard in other non-sports pursuits but this child LOVES soccer so I am forced to learn how to best position them to succeed.

We are not on IG and do not post any of their highlights or workouts. Parents, please note, social media has DEVASTING effects on kids. None of my kids have social media accounts. I saw one child ask their parents while walking off the field did their parent catch their move so they can post it on IG. I have recently joined IG solely for the purpose of learning this soccer landscape and it is a little shocking how many parents have IG's set up for their kids. The one thing I have noticed is most of the top players don't post much. I know one local kid has been bullied and their parent was forced to take down the account. I have a friend who is a tech lobbyist and I have simply followed his patterns as he warned me years ago of the privacy impact of social media and the negative impact it has on children and teens, especially girls. He represents these companies so I simply follow his lead. Networking is important in this sport and you can create networks by playing in different environments, summer camps, club trainings as well as guesting outside of your primary club. All more beneficial than IG.

Finally, what are kids doing with their 168 hours a week? Do parents even know? My kid does not have a device but all of his friends do. Is their screen time usage supporting becoming a CEO? My kid does not play video games and is not on social media. They are not allowed to play until homework is done and they are required to read a minimum of 30 minutes a day on top of advanced math classes outside of school. They still have ALOT of time to play soccer.

I don't publicly judge the anxiety parents show about about changing to school year, which alphabet league, team 1 vs team 2 etc., so if someone asks a high-level question, please sit it out if it does not apply to you. If you don't have a high-level kid in soccer, I am sure they are high-level in something and you should pay more attention to your kids to find out what they are passionate about than judging someone else's parenting choices.

Listen to yourself:

My child is in elementary school. All of my kids played soccer but this child is the only one who plays travel because they are driven.

50:1 odds you are going to drive your child out of travel sports by U13.

OP sounds thoughtful in his analysis. Check out the rest of the threads in this forum. That is the anxiety that pushes kids out of youth soccer. You have a kid trying to make an A team while not training outside of practice.

You attacking someone is who not attacking but looking for answers to resolve the drive of a high-level athlete.

European kids are recruited at age 7 so these conversations happen. If OP kids burns out, the family saves thousands of dollars knowing that the kids desire to be high-level what not as strong as it seems. That is the reality of high-level athletics.

Really, it sounds like you and the original poster are one and the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HS in moco starts at 745. No idea how kids are getting in a training session before that.

Pure dedication and drive to be the best. Get up at 5am, stretching and aerobics along with ball control and shooting exercises. Most of these kids have basement or backyard practice areas. Got to give them credit for their work effort to be the best and their folks for supporting them.

Barf.

Assume your kid is still in rec?

Try again.

Pre-rec?

MLSNext and you sound ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

If your kid wants to train at 5am, then train at 5am

Why do you need validation from strangers who themselves aren't raising high performing kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid wants to train at 5am, then train at 5am

Why do you need validation from strangers who themselves aren't raising high performing kids?

Why do you assume that others arent raising high performing kids? Everyones path to the top is different ie: Ronaldo vs Messi

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid wants to train at 5am, then train at 5am

Why do you need validation from strangers who themselves aren't raising high performing kids?

Why do you assume that others arent raising high performing kids? Everyones path to the top is different ie: Ronaldo vs Messi

So much delusion on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid wants to train at 5am, then train at 5am

Why do you need validation from strangers who themselves aren't raising high performing kids?

Why do you assume that others arent raising high performing kids? Everyones path to the top is different ie: Ronaldo vs Messi

So much delusion on this thread.

No delusion you obviously dont know soccer or sports.