AAP Center Elimination Rumors

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

let me guess haycock...

No Lemon Road. The bussed in kids cause a lot of problems.

That makes me really sad to hear. As a family that gets "bussed in." Lemon Road has always seemed super welcoming and the teachers have done an incredible job with class community. I think 50% or more of my kid's class is "bussed in." The kids seem happy and I thought the parents were inviting too.... maybe I was wrong.

[Anonymous]

Any school with local level IV AAP should not send students to a center. Elementary schools without enough children for a particular grade can give parents the option of sending their kids to the next closest elementary school (assigned by administration) with local level IV AAP (that is also zoned for their base middle school). All middle schools should have level IV AAP.

Great Falls Elementary has a local level IV AAP program with enough kids to make classes at all grades. 40-50 kids a year are bussed from Great Falls (high SES zoned for Cooper/Langley) to the center school Colvin Run (high SES school zoned for Cooper/Langley). Colvin Run’s AAP Program only pulls students from Great Falls (no other elementary schools). There are multiple busses driving these kids from their homes in the Great Falls Elementary boundary to Colvin Run. One bus only has 8-9 students on it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any school with local level IV AAP should not send students to a center. Elementary schools without enough children for a particular grade can give parents the option of sending their kids to the next closest elementary school (assigned by administration) with local level IV AAP (that is also zoned for their base middle school). All middle schools should have level IV AAP.

Great Falls Elementary has a local level IV AAP program with enough kids to make classes at all grades. 40-50 kids a year are bussed from Great Falls (high SES zoned for Cooper/Langley) to the center school Colvin Run (high SES school zoned for Cooper/Langley). Colvin Run’s AAP Program only pulls students from Great Falls (no other elementary schools). There are multiple busses driving these kids from their homes in the Great Falls Elementary boundary to Colvin Run. One bus only has 8-9 students on it!

It is a waste of resources. I think they should at least no offer bussing. I agree. As long as there is a large enough peer groups at base, they should not have option for center.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

Holy cow I hope this is a joke.

Not a joke. Really its just one of the schools I have a problem with. I'm sure they are nice kids, but they are bussed from 20 minutes away, are not in the same extracurricular circle, and are not zoned for the same HS. Sorry but I think they would be better off in their own pyramid.

This is so gross I can't even. I hope I never cross paths with you in real life.

Oh stop the theatrics. What exactly is "gross" about desiring to keep kids within their pyramid? There is no reason to send these kids to my school. They have a LLIV program at their own school. Are you assuming the school in question is Title 1? It's not.

Can you elaborate the bolded? I know you are not the only one with who cannot wait to shout their discriminatory ideas. But, do go ahead.

Why do “these kids” bother you? And, what makes you think that your assigned school is “your school”?

"These kids" commonly refers to a group of kids.

It's "my school" because it is clarifying which school I am talking about.

Any "discriminatory" tilt you read out of that is in your own head.

You are intentionally and annoyingly being obtuse now.

Here, I will repeat it again. Your post is both ugly and discriminatory.

Let it sink for a second before you run to reply again.

Explain clearly how desiring to keep kids within their pyramid is discriminatory? YOU are the one assuming my motivations for such are due to race/income. The school in question is predominantly white and again not Title 1, so you are claiming I'm discriminatory against middle class white people? Get a grip and check your own biases.

I highly doubt that you are not aware why families from local level IV schools send their kids to centers.

You, yourself, brought up that “those kids” don’t do the same extracurriculars, don’t live in the same neighborhoods and are like outsiders, and are being “bused”. The year is 2025 and most people don’t utter those words aloud. As it turns out, yes, there are socio-economic differences between different schools and neighborhoods all around FCPS. And those play an important role why parents choose to send their kids to center schools.

Re-read your original post. It has nothing to do with some of the meaningful arguments whether center schools should exist or not.

My friend, truly it has nothing to do with demographics and everything to do with making extra split feeders. I want my kid to have a large cohort of kids moving from one stage to the next. We aren't at this stage yet but I might actually take my kid out of MS full time AAP and do Honors instead as I'm meh on the idea of a not insignificant portion of the class disappearing elsewhere after 8th grade. Split feeders suck. I know sometimes they are unavoidable but in this particular case, it shouldn't be hard to keep everyone under their particular HS pyramid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll repeat:

TROLL ALERT

Remember when you read these posts, ladies, that it is an election year!!!!

TROLL ALERT

Are you new?

Or not from Fairfax County?

Do you have kids?

Or are you a childless political activist from DC or California?

If you had kids or were from this area, you would know that there are thousands of threads just like this, every week, going back years, since as long as FCPS created AAP centers. They happen in election years, non election years, summer vacation, Christmas Eve, Presidents Day, Juneteenth, Diwali, and every random day of the year.

These types of anti AAP threads are why the moderator created a separate forum for AAP several years back (on a non election year.)

If you lived in Fairfax County, or had kids in FCPS you would know that this thread is just normal conversation and has nothing to do with elections.

The fact that you responded like you did clearly shows that the only election and politics troll is you

Oh shut up, we all know that these posts are far more frequent during election years.

We know you're a MAGA MAMA.

Says the person with zero connection to FCPS or Fairfax County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll repeat:

TROLL ALERT

Remember when you read these posts, ladies, that it is an election year!!!!

TROLL ALERT

Are you new?

Or not from Fairfax County?

Do you have kids?

Or are you a childless political activist from DC or California?

If you had kids or were from this area, you would know that there are thousands of threads just like this, every week, going back years, since as long as FCPS created AAP centers. They happen in election years, non election years, summer vacation, Christmas Eve, Presidents Day, Juneteenth, Diwali, and every random day of the year.

These types of anti AAP threads are why the moderator created a separate forum for AAP several years back (on a non election year.)

If you lived in Fairfax County, or had kids in FCPS you would know that this thread is just normal conversation and has nothing to do with elections.

The fact that you responded like you did clearly shows that the only election and politics troll is you

Oh shut up, we all know that these posts are far more frequent during election years.

We know you're a MAGA MAMA.

Says the person with zero connection to FCPS or Fairfax County.

WTF are you talking about about? I have two kids in FCPS and I read this forum a lot. Enough to know that there are a lot of trolls that post posts they know are going to be super controversial and rile people up in election years. Go back to 2020 if you are really so dumb that you don't understand what I'm talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll repeat:

TROLL ALERT

Remember when you read these posts, ladies, that it is an election year!!!!

TROLL ALERT

Are you new?

Or not from Fairfax County?

Do you have kids?

Or are you a childless political activist from DC or California?

If you had kids or were from this area, you would know that there are thousands of threads just like this, every week, going back years, since as long as FCPS created AAP centers. They happen in election years, non election years, summer vacation, Christmas Eve, Presidents Day, Juneteenth, Diwali, and every random day of the year.

These types of anti AAP threads are why the moderator created a separate forum for AAP several years back (on a non election year.)

If you lived in Fairfax County, or had kids in FCPS you would know that this thread is just normal conversation and has nothing to do with elections.

The fact that you responded like you did clearly shows that the only election and politics troll is you

Oh shut up, we all know that these posts are far more frequent during election years.

We know you're a MAGA MAMA.

Says the person with zero connection to FCPS or Fairfax County.

WTF are you talking about about? I have two kids in FCPS and I read this forum a lot. Enough to know that there are a lot of trolls that post posts they know are going to be super controversial and rile people up in election years. Go back to 2020 if you are really so dumb that you don't understand what I'm talking about.

I mean 2021 and the last gubernatorial election. The threads were INSANE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any school with local level IV AAP should not send students to a center. Elementary schools without enough children for a particular grade can give parents the option of sending their kids to the next closest elementary school (assigned by administration) with local level IV AAP (that is also zoned for their base middle school). All middle schools should have level IV AAP.

Great Falls Elementary has a local level IV AAP program with enough kids to make classes at all grades. 40-50 kids a year are bussed from Great Falls (high SES zoned for Cooper/Langley) to the center school Colvin Run (high SES school zoned for Cooper/Langley). Colvin Run’s AAP Program only pulls students from Great Falls (no other elementary schools). There are multiple busses driving these kids from their homes in the Great Falls Elementary boundary to Colvin Run. One bus only has 8-9 students on it!

I agree with this - we are at a small elementary school that still has a dedicated LLIV class. We only have 1 or 2 kids leave for the center every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any school with local level IV AAP should not send students to a center. Elementary schools without enough children for a particular grade can give parents the option of sending their kids to the next closest elementary school (assigned by administration) with local level IV AAP (that is also zoned for their base middle school). All middle schools should have level IV AAP.

Great Falls Elementary has a local level IV AAP program with enough kids to make classes at all grades. 40-50 kids a year are bussed from Great Falls (high SES zoned for Cooper/Langley) to the center school Colvin Run (high SES school zoned for Cooper/Langley). Colvin Run’s AAP Program only pulls students from Great Falls (no other elementary schools). There are multiple busses driving these kids from their homes in the Great Falls Elementary boundary to Colvin Run. One bus only has 8-9 students on it!

Out base school has LLIV. They had 31 kids qualify for level iv my son’s year. Perfect for a class! Yet they opted for the “cluster model”.

Following year for my daughter, 35 kids qualified. 2 classes with a mix of level iii kids? Nope, the plan was to cluster across 6 classrooms, no more than 6 AAP kids per room.

That’s why we chose the center. I wanted to stay in the neighborhood school. It is lonely and isolating to be one of only a couple families who aren’t. At the end of the day it is not the same experience though.

If you want families to stay at the base, make the academic experience the same. I’m not going to sign my children up for independent study/tutoring classmates (my elementary school experience) when they could be in a class where they have 30 other kids to push them.

Even if bussing disappeared, we’d adjust shifts to drive—it’s that different of an experience. Every year a few more from the base move to the center, yet the principal doubles down on the stupid cluster idea, claiming it’s better for everyone. It’s not. As a teacher, I don’t want another level of content to differentiate towards. As a student, I don’t want to have less teacher attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any school with local level IV AAP should not send students to a center. Elementary schools without enough children for a particular grade can give parents the option of sending their kids to the next closest elementary school (assigned by administration) with local level IV AAP (that is also zoned for their base middle school). All middle schools should have level IV AAP.

Great Falls Elementary has a local level IV AAP program with enough kids to make classes at all grades. 40-50 kids a year are bussed from Great Falls (high SES zoned for Cooper/Langley) to the center school Colvin Run (high SES school zoned for Cooper/Langley). Colvin Run’s AAP Program only pulls students from Great Falls (no other elementary schools). There are multiple busses driving these kids from their homes in the Great Falls Elementary boundary to Colvin Run. One bus only has 8-9 students on it!

Out base school has LLIV. They had 31 kids qualify for level iv my son’s year. Perfect for a class! Yet they opted for the “cluster model”.

Following year for my daughter, 35 kids qualified. 2 classes with a mix of level iii kids? Nope, the plan was to cluster across 6 classrooms, no more than 6 AAP kids per room.

That’s why we chose the center. I wanted to stay in the neighborhood school. It is lonely and isolating to be one of only a couple families who aren’t. At the end of the day it is not the same experience though.

If you want families to stay at the base, make the academic experience the same. I’m not going to sign my children up for independent study/tutoring classmates (my elementary school experience) when they could be in a class where they have 30 other kids to push them.

Even if bussing disappeared, we’d adjust shifts to drive—it’s that different of an experience. Every year a few more from the base move to the center, yet the principal doubles down on the stupid cluster idea, claiming it’s better for everyone. It’s not. As a teacher, I don’t want another level of content to differentiate towards. As a student, I don’t want to have less teacher attention.

I agree that it's very frustrating that they don't do it the same across schools. Our ES eliminated the LLIV classroom a few years ago - I think it was a choice made because the school was overcrowded and it was an easy way to "get rid of" a large chunk of students.

[Anonymous]

when they could be in a class where they have 30 other kids to push them.

Myth. Do you really think all the AAP kids are on the same level? A handful may be gifted, but there is a wide span there.

It doesn't hurt to be in a heterogenous class. In fact, it is better.

Teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

when they could be in a class where they have 30 other kids to push them.

Myth. Do you really think all the AAP kids are on the same level? A handful may be gifted, but there is a wide span there.

It doesn't hurt to be in a heterogenous class. In fact, it is better.

Teacher

DP. Seems like that would depend on the heterogeneity, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll repeat:

TROLL ALERT

Remember when you read these posts, ladies, that it is an election year!!!!

TROLL ALERT

Are you new?

Or not from Fairfax County?

Do you have kids?

Or are you a childless political activist from DC or California?

If you had kids or were from this area, you would know that there are thousands of threads just like this, every week, going back years, since as long as FCPS created AAP centers. They happen in election years, non election years, summer vacation, Christmas Eve, Presidents Day, Juneteenth, Diwali, and every random day of the year.

These types of anti AAP threads are why the moderator created a separate forum for AAP several years back (on a non election year.)

If you lived in Fairfax County, or had kids in FCPS you would know that this thread is just normal conversation and has nothing to do with elections.

The fact that you responded like you did clearly shows that the only election and politics troll is you

Oh shut up, we all know that these posts are far more frequent during election years.

We know you're a MAGA MAMA.

Says the person with zero connection to FCPS or Fairfax County.

WTF are you talking about about? I have two kids in FCPS and I read this forum a lot. Enough to know that there are a lot of trolls that post posts they know are going to be super controversial and rile people up in election years. Go back to 2020 if you are really so dumb that you don't understand what I'm talking about.

Sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any school with local level IV AAP should not send students to a center. Elementary schools without enough children for a particular grade can give parents the option of sending their kids to the next closest elementary school (assigned by administration) with local level IV AAP (that is also zoned for their base middle school). All middle schools should have level IV AAP.

Great Falls Elementary has a local level IV AAP program with enough kids to make classes at all grades. 40-50 kids a year are bussed from Great Falls (high SES zoned for Cooper/Langley) to the center school Colvin Run (high SES school zoned for Cooper/Langley). Colvin Run’s AAP Program only pulls students from Great Falls (no other elementary schools). There are multiple busses driving these kids from their homes in the Great Falls Elementary boundary to Colvin Run. One bus only has 8-9 students on it!

Out base school has LLIV. They had 31 kids qualify for level iv my son’s year. Perfect for a class! Yet they opted for the “cluster model”.

Following year for my daughter, 35 kids qualified. 2 classes with a mix of level iii kids? Nope, the plan was to cluster across 6 classrooms, no more than 6 AAP kids per room.

That’s why we chose the center. I wanted to stay in the neighborhood school. It is lonely and isolating to be one of only a couple families who aren’t. At the end of the day it is not the same experience though.

If you want families to stay at the base, make the academic experience the same. I’m not going to sign my children up for independent study/tutoring classmates (my elementary school experience) when they could be in a class where they have 30 other kids to push them.

Even if bussing disappeared, we’d adjust shifts to drive—it’s that different of an experience. Every year a few more from the base move to the center, yet the principal doubles down on the stupid cluster idea, claiming it’s better for everyone. It’s not. As a teacher, I don’t want another level of content to differentiate towards. As a student, I don’t want to have less teacher attention.

We have a dedicated class where 50-75 percent are AAP. Why are kids still choosing center when there is a dedicated class? The reality is many Level 3 students are just as high achieving as the Level 4 students and you would not know the difference. I have 20 kids this year. 14 are level 4 and the rest are high achieving kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Out base school has LLIV. They had 31 kids qualify for level iv my son’s year. Perfect for a class! Yet they opted for the “cluster model”.

Following year for my daughter, 35 kids qualified. 2 classes with a mix of level iii kids? Nope, the plan was to cluster across 6 classrooms, no more than 6 AAP kids per room.

That’s why we chose the center. I wanted to stay in the neighborhood school. It is lonely and isolating to be one of only a couple families who aren’t. At the end of the day it is not the same experience though.

If you want families to stay at the base, make the academic experience the same. I’m not going to sign my children up for independent study/tutoring classmates (my elementary school experience) when they could be in a class where they have 30 other kids to push them.

Even if bussing disappeared, we’d adjust shifts to drive—it’s that different of an experience. Every year a few more from the base move to the center, yet the principal doubles down on the stupid cluster idea, claiming it’s better for everyone. It’s not. As a teacher, I don’t want another level of content to differentiate towards. As a student, I don’t want to have less teacher attention.

They choose cluster model so every class in the grade has access to AAP program. Presumably to raise test scores.