AAP Center Elimination Rumors

[Anonymous]

I’ve heard rumors from various sources FCPS may be eliminating AAP centers at the elementary level when they do the re-districting. Does anyone have any reliable info to confirm or deny this claim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard rumors from various sources FCPS may be eliminating AAP centers at the elementary level when they do the re-districting. Does anyone have any reliable info to confirm or deny this claim?

Nope. I heard a similar rumor earlier last fall though when FCPS decided to stop picking up AAP ES kids on our bus route who had stops close to their homes and decided to only pickup AAP kids at their base school in some cases. Which, rumor has it, was by design to make attending the AAP center more difficult. The Bus driver said it was the 1st time they ever forced the change to his route like that (he's been driving for 20+ years too.)

[Anonymous]

From the notes of the last STAC meeting:

Local level 4 teacher - we are frustrated with centers when many schools have the population for a local level 4 class. It’s hard to convince kids to stay at the base school, when they think that the center is better for them. What’s the point if they can get what they need at a base school? Why pay for buses? No other kid gets the chance to get bused to a school that is not their base school (not even immersion kids get bussed - parents drive them).

Presidio: this is a policy decision - it would require a change in board policy. Over the last 10 years, we’ve worked really hard to grow our local level IV programs, almost all elementary schools have one. Once we have all schools with local level IV programs, the board may feel more comfortable with a policy change. We’ve renovated/modified buildings to make capacity work. We need to make sure all schools have the capacity to bring all the kids back. This is one of the things the boundary study is looking at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the notes of the last STAC meeting:

Local level 4 teacher - we are frustrated with centers when many schools have the population for a local level 4 class. It’s hard to convince kids to stay at the base school, when they think that the center is better for them. What’s the point if they can get what they need at a base school? Why pay for buses? No other kid gets the chance to get bused to a school that is not their base school (not even immersion kids get bussed - parents drive them).

Presidio: this is a policy decision - it would require a change in board policy. Over the last 10 years, we’ve worked really hard to grow our local level IV programs, almost all elementary schools have one. Once we have all schools with local level IV programs, the board may feel more comfortable with a policy change. We’ve renovated/modified buildings to make capacity work. We need to make sure all schools have the capacity to bring all the kids back. This is one of the things the boundary study is looking at.

And the rest:

Teacher: Why are they getting bused?
Presidio: It’s a historical policy - predates me. When we first opened centers, it was a small number of students, but over the last 20-30 years the number of students found eligible has increased significantly, so the need for bussing them has increased.
Teacher:Shouldn’t the school board look at policies that are outdated?
Presidio: This is a situation that has been looked at. We have had 3 external audits for AAP, debated centers each time, boundary work that is going on now is trying to address that. They are looking, but it’s complicated.
Teacher: Basically the school board has to make the policy?
Presidio: Facilities, transportation, fidelity to the program, and all sorts of other people need to be involved in this process, which takes time. Not just as easy as we will make a policy change and bring them back to their base school. We also don’t have level 4 at all schools.
Reid: there are a lot of states that treat gifted and talented as an IEP required program. Just like if a student has an IEP and the program doesn’t exist in the base school, we will bus them. We need to calibrate so that the local level IV programs are the same as the ones offered in the centers.

[Anonymous]

Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

Seriously? 😒

Yes, get them outsiders out! (I am being sarcastic)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

Holy cow I hope this is a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

let me guess haycock...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

Holy cow I hope this is a joke.

Not a joke. Really its just one of the schools I have a problem with. I'm sure they are nice kids, but they are bussed from 20 minutes away, are not in the same extracurricular circle, and are not zoned for the same HS. Sorry but I think they would be better off in their own pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

Holy cow I hope this is a joke.

Not a joke. Really its just one of the schools I have a problem with. I'm sure they are nice kids, but they are bussed from 20 minutes away, are not in the same extracurricular circle, and are not zoned for the same HS. Sorry but I think they would be better off in their own pyramid.

This is so gross I can't even. I hope I never cross paths with you in real life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

Holy cow I hope this is a joke.

Not a joke. Really its just one of the schools I have a problem with. I'm sure they are nice kids, but they are bussed from 20 minutes away, are not in the same extracurricular circle, and are not zoned for the same HS. Sorry but I think they would be better off in their own pyramid.

This is so gross I can't even. I hope I never cross paths with you in real life.

Oh stop the theatrics. What exactly is "gross" about desiring to keep kids within their pyramid? There is no reason to send these kids to my school. They have a LLIV program at their own school. Are you assuming the school in question is Title 1? It's not.

[Anonymous]

I’d have less of a problem with centers if every pyramid had a center (or possibly 2, for larger/more populated HS pyramids). And if there was MS AAP everywhere. Instead, kids are getting bussed every which way out of pyramid and it’s a huge mess.

I also think that even with LLIV everywhere, there will still be some need for centers, particularly in lower SES areas - you might not have a critical mass of kids at every ES to fill out an AAP class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our base school is a center and I would fully support this! The kids who come from other schools are like outsiders, no connection to our neighborhood.

Holy cow I hope this is a joke.

Not a joke. Really its just one of the schools I have a problem with. I'm sure they are nice kids, but they are bussed from 20 minutes away, are not in the same extracurricular circle, and are not zoned for the same HS. Sorry but I think they would be better off in their own pyramid.

This is so gross I can't even. I hope I never cross paths with you in real life.

Oh stop the theatrics. What exactly is "gross" about desiring to keep kids within their pyramid? There is no reason to send these kids to my school. They have a LLIV program at their own school. Are you assuming the school in question is Title 1? It's not.

Can you elaborate the bolded? I know you are not the only one with who cannot wait to shout their discriminatory ideas. But, do go ahead.

Why do “these kids” bother you? And, what makes you think that your assigned school is “your school”?

[Anonymous]

So to try and bring this back to the OP, it looks like they are saying its complicated but also may try to address it with the boundary changes? I personally don't support it - it splits the schools and almost full class of 3rd graders leaves our school every year.

[Anonymous]

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