Technical Issues During AP Exam?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The college board is awful. My kid was also impacted with the SAT debacle in March.

Isn't it amazing that so many people want their tests to dominate admissions when they have constant issues?

And their CEO makes $2.5 million a year.

I'm French, and in France the government has an all-powerful Ministère de l'Education who administers the national Baccalauréat exams: orals, and long dissertations, on every subject at the end of high school. It's max pressure on the students. Every year we are reminded on the news that this week, kids are doing exams all over France. Reporters interview students at the end of their exams, or accompany them the day they find out their scores. They quiz professors on what they would have answered on the Philosophy (or other) exams. It's a national exercise leading to a national conversation. Germany has the Abitur, and the UK has A levels. Korea grinds to a halt when students take their exams, and construction stops near exam centers. In Japan and China it's a huge deal as well.

This is what it looks like when countries take education seriously. I wish the USA could see its way to nationalizing its educational standards and impose a national end of high school exam series. It would make college admissions a lot less murky and stressful. No need to deal with for-profit educational companies!

1. The US exam would be abysmal. Seriously, can you imagine what a flaming pile of poo would be created? Next it would be politicized. Facts would be removed, no science, Jesus stamped all over it and full of MAGA bs.

2. The high stakes exams has led to a huge flourishing of for profit exam prep centers in China, Korea and India. Cheating is also rampant. Not sure this is what we want to aspire to be.

3. Holistic isn’t bad if it’s transparent and fair. Universities are too opaque and it makes it look like they are hiding something or they are doing something that would hurt their brand.

French PP you replied to. I agree that in Asian countries, cheating has become problematic. In France it's very difficult to cheat, not just because there's a robust protection of exam questions, but because the format is mostly long-form answers. You have to show your work, or write lengthy essays, with citations, memorization of facts and dates, and thoughtful thesis and antithesis. I guess that with AI, someone could steal the questions in advance, then ask ChatGPT to write their essays for them - but then they'd have to memorize it all, and on the day of the exam rewrite it by hand on the exam paper provided! Too much work

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The college board is awful. My kid was also impacted with the SAT debacle in March.

Isn't it amazing that so many people want their tests to dominate admissions when they have constant issues?

And their CEO makes $2.5 million a year.

I'm French, and in France the government has an all-powerful Ministère de l'Education who administers the national Baccalauréat exams: orals, and long dissertations, on every subject at the end of high school. It's max pressure on the students. Every year we are reminded on the news that this week, kids are doing exams all over France. Reporters interview students at the end of their exams, or accompany them the day they find out their scores. They quiz professors on what they would have answered on the Philosophy (or other) exams. It's a national exercise leading to a national conversation. Germany has the Abitur, and the UK has A levels. Korea grinds to a halt when students take their exams, and construction stops near exam centers. In Japan and China it's a huge deal as well.

This is what it looks like when countries take education seriously. I wish the USA could see its way to nationalizing its educational standards and impose a national end of high school exam series. It would make college admissions a lot less murky and stressful. No need to deal with for-profit educational companies!

1. The US exam would be abysmal. Seriously, can you imagine what a flaming pile of poo would be created? Next it would be politicized. Facts would be removed, no science, Jesus stamped all over it and full of MAGA bs.

2. The high stakes exams has led to a huge flourishing of for profit exam prep centers in China, Korea and India. Cheating is also rampant. Not sure this is what we want to aspire to be.

3. Holistic isn’t bad if it’s transparent and fair. Universities are too opaque and it makes it look like they are hiding something or they are doing something that would hurt their brand.

French PP you replied to. I agree that in Asian countries, cheating has become problematic. In France it's very difficult to cheat, not just because there's a robust protection of exam questions, but because the format is mostly long-form answers. You have to show your work, or write lengthy essays, with citations, memorization of facts and dates, and thoughtful thesis and antithesis. I guess that with AI, someone could steal the questions in advance, then ask ChatGPT to write their essays for them - but then they'd have to memorize it all, and on the day of the exam rewrite it by hand on the exam paper provided! Too much work

Sounds like the grading and evaluation are very subjective. Non merci.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The college board is awful. My kid was also impacted with the SAT debacle in March.

Isn't it amazing that so many people want their tests to dominate admissions when they have constant issues?

And their CEO makes $2.5 million a year.

I'm French, and in France the government has an all-powerful Ministère de l'Education who administers the national Baccalauréat exams: orals, and long dissertations, on every subject at the end of high school. It's max pressure on the students. Every year we are reminded on the news that this week, kids are doing exams all over France. Reporters interview students at the end of their exams, or accompany them the day they find out their scores. They quiz professors on what they would have answered on the Philosophy (or other) exams. It's a national exercise leading to a national conversation. Germany has the Abitur, and the UK has A levels. Korea grinds to a halt when students take their exams, and construction stops near exam centers. In Japan and China it's a huge deal as well.

This is what it looks like when countries take education seriously. I wish the USA could see its way to nationalizing its educational standards and impose a national end of high school exam series. It would make college admissions a lot less murky and stressful. No need to deal with for-profit educational companies!

1. The US exam would be abysmal. Seriously, can you imagine what a flaming pile of poo would be created? Next it would be politicized. Facts would be removed, no science, Jesus stamped all over it and full of MAGA bs.

2. The high stakes exams has led to a huge flourishing of for profit exam prep centers in China, Korea and India. Cheating is also rampant. Not sure this is what we want to aspire to be.

3. Holistic isn’t bad if it’s transparent and fair. Universities are too opaque and it makes it look like they are hiding something or they are doing something that would hurt their brand.

French PP you replied to. I agree that in Asian countries, cheating has become problematic. In France it's very difficult to cheat, not just because there's a robust protection of exam questions, but because the format is mostly long-form answers. You have to show your work, or write lengthy essays, with citations, memorization of facts and dates, and thoughtful thesis and antithesis. I guess that with AI, someone could steal the questions in advance, then ask ChatGPT to write their essays for them - but then they'd have to memorize it all, and on the day of the exam rewrite it by hand on the exam paper provided! Too much work

Sounds like the grading and evaluation are very subjective. Non merci.

And this is why we can't have nice things. There's always someone who is going to complain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The college board is awful. My kid was also impacted with the SAT debacle in March.

Isn't it amazing that so many people want their tests to dominate admissions when they have constant issues?

And their CEO makes $2.5 million a year.

I'm French, and in France the government has an all-powerful Ministère de l'Education who administers the national Baccalauréat exams: orals, and long dissertations, on every subject at the end of high school. It's max pressure on the students. Every year we are reminded on the news that this week, kids are doing exams all over France. Reporters interview students at the end of their exams, or accompany them the day they find out their scores. They quiz professors on what they would have answered on the Philosophy (or other) exams. It's a national exercise leading to a national conversation. Germany has the Abitur, and the UK has A levels. Korea grinds to a halt when students take their exams, and construction stops near exam centers. In Japan and China it's a huge deal as well.

This is what it looks like when countries take education seriously. I wish the USA could see its way to nationalizing its educational standards and impose a national end of high school exam series. It would make college admissions a lot less murky and stressful. No need to deal with for-profit educational companies!

1. The US exam would be abysmal. Seriously, can you imagine what a flaming pile of poo would be created? Next it would be politicized. Facts would be removed, no science, Jesus stamped all over it and full of MAGA bs.

2. The high stakes exams has led to a huge flourishing of for profit exam prep centers in China, Korea and India. Cheating is also rampant. Not sure this is what we want to aspire to be.

3. Holistic isn’t bad if it’s transparent and fair. Universities are too opaque and it makes it look like they are hiding something or they are doing something that would hurt their brand.

The US does better than France on the PISA test, the best way to compare across countries:https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/pisa-scores-by-country

As in the US, there is huge variation between more and less advantaged students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mine told me a kid had a phone out and two kids in back cheating. Pathetic schools don’t get competent proctors. Cheering is so rampant and it’s sickening.

The College Board, with all it's money, puts all the burden on the schools to administer the test. They should do it themselves. Goodness knows they have the money.

[Anonymous]

Yikes! Other than purchasing a new laptop because blue book app couldn’t be downloaded on my son’s personal Chromebook - the 4 he took went off without any issues. I guess we should be thankful- sounds like a nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Every year I’m more and more convinced that College Board exams are nothing more than a data mining operation and racket for profits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine told me a kid had a phone out and two kids in back cheating. Pathetic schools don’t get competent proctors. Cheering is so rampant and it’s sickening.

The College Board, with all it's money, puts all the burden on the schools to administer the test. They should do it themselves. Goodness knows they have the money.

Totally agree!

[Anonymous]

At our school it was parents proctoring, couldn’t be in with kid, quality varies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened? My kid took Psych in UK without incident, started noon our time.

Apparently, US east coast could not login to bluebook for the afternoon AP Psych exam.

Also affected Canada. Exam reset for next Friday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Late testing date for Psychology is next Friday. My kids school is off that day for the long holiday weekend...

The rescheduled test is during our Senior Award Ceremony.

My son rows and decided to skip AP Psych today for the Stotesbury Regatta. His boat qualified for SRAA Nationals which is next Friday. He may skip next week, too. I’m glad I didn’t pressure him about today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Late testing date for Psychology is next Friday. My kids school is off that day for the long holiday weekend...

The rescheduled test is during our Senior Award Ceremony.

My son rows and decided to skip AP Psych today for the Stotesbury Regatta. His boat qualified for SRAA Nationals which is next Friday. He may skip next week, too. I’m glad I didn’t pressure him about today.

Is your school offering exception testing? I’m hopeful ours will have one the following week because also dealing with National competition 5/22 here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids' school has an issue with the AP French exam. The CD's that were supposed to play the audio portion questions were not playing, so the entire class was moved to another location to try it again. They eventually managed to get everything working, but it was a 6 hour day. Then, they were told that AP would be canceling their scores and they would need to retake the exam on a retake day.

Why in the world do they need to cancel their scores? That is ridiculous.

I took the AP French exam in the 90s and the equivalent part (ours was on cassette tape) somehow got screwed up. they held us for several hours. Eventually, it worked, but college board just put an asterisk next to our scores to indicate testing inconsistencies

[Anonymous]

Good ole pencil and paper never fails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Late testing date for Psychology is next Friday. My kids school is off that day for the long holiday weekend...

The rescheduled test is during our Senior Award Ceremony.

My son rows and decided to skip AP Psych today for the Stotesbury Regatta. His boat qualified for SRAA Nationals which is next Friday. He may skip next week, too. I’m glad I didn’t pressure him about today.

Our school requires kids to take the AP exam or they fail the course.