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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The college board is awful. My kid was also impacted with the SAT debacle in March. [/quote]
Isn't it amazing that so many people want their tests to dominate admissions when they have constant issues?

And their CEO makes $2.5 million a year. [/quote]

I'm French, and in France the government has an all-powerful Ministère de l'Education who administers the national Baccalauréat exams: orals, and long dissertations, on every subject at the end of high school. It's max pressure on the students. Every year we are reminded on the news that this week, kids are doing exams all over France. Reporters interview students at the end of their exams, or accompany them the day they find out their scores. They quiz professors on what they would have answered on the Philosophy (or other) exams. It's a national exercise leading to a national conversation. Germany has the Abitur, and the UK has A levels. Korea grinds to a halt when students take their exams, and construction stops near exam centers. In Japan and China it's a huge deal as well.

This is what it looks like when countries take education seriously. I wish the USA could see its way to nationalizing its educational standards and impose a national end of high school exam series. It would make college admissions a lot less murky and stressful. No need to deal with for-profit educational companies!

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1. The US exam would be abysmal. Seriously, can you imagine what a flaming pile of poo would be created? Next it would be politicized. Facts would be removed, no science, Jesus stamped all over it and full of MAGA bs.

2. The high stakes exams has led to a huge flourishing of for profit exam prep centers in China, Korea and India. Cheating is also rampant. Not sure this is what we want to aspire to be.

3. Holistic isn’t bad if it’s transparent and fair. Universities are too opaque and it makes it look like they are hiding something or they are doing something that would hurt their brand.[/quote]

French PP you replied to. I agree that in Asian countries, cheating has become problematic. In France it's very difficult to cheat, not just because there's a robust protection of exam questions, but because the format is mostly long-form answers. You have to show your work, or write lengthy essays, with citations, memorization of facts and dates, and thoughtful thesis and antithesis. I guess that with AI, someone could steal the questions in advance, then ask ChatGPT to write their essays for them - but then they'd have to memorize it all, and on the day of the exam [i]rewrite it by hand on the exam paper provided[/i]! Too much work :-)
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Sounds like the grading and evaluation are very subjective.  Non merci.[/quote]

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