TJ 1.5% accepted?

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Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

Please proof read. Lots of mistakes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

America celebrates diversity and the unique strengths each ethnicity contributes, whether it's the NHL with a White majority, the NBA with a strong African American presence, or STEM education where Asian Americans are prominently represented.

You compare private for profit sports league to a government school funded by taxpayer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

Please proof read. Lots of mistakes.

Google should be your friend.
https://www.fcag.org/tjadmits2006.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

America celebrates diversity and the unique strengths each ethnicity contributes, whether it's the NHL with a White majority, the NBA with a strong African American presence, or STEM education where Asian Americans are prominently represented.

You compare private for profit sports league to a government school funded by taxpayer.

Public School basketball teams and stem programs are both taxpayer funded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

Please proof read. Lots of mistakes.

Google should be your friend.
https://www.fcag.org/tjadmits2006.html

And class of 2008, Asian 31%
Surprisingly Algebra 1 is at 65%, the rat race continues to increase.

https://www.fcag.org/tjadmits2004.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

Please proof read. Lots of mistakes.

Google should be your friend.
https://www.fcag.org/tjadmits2006.html

What can fcps do if certain ethnic groups lost interest in stem education since then or always had shown low interest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

Please proof read. Lots of mistakes.

Google should be your friend.
https://www.fcag.org/tjadmits2006.html

What can fcps do if certain ethnic groups lost interest in stem education since then or always had shown low interest?

You mean lost interest in stem or lost interest in rat race (that heavily indicate by the test prep booming)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

Please proof read. Lots of mistakes.

Google should be your friend.
https://www.fcag.org/tjadmits2006.html

And class of 2008, Asian 31%
Surprisingly Algebra 1 is at 65%, the rat race continues to increase.

https://www.fcag.org/tjadmits2004.html

Fcps has severe shortage of math teachers in early 2000s.
"The most severe shortages were reported in 1999-2000, with math and science being the highest shortage fields. This shortage was attributed to various factors, including declining enrollment in teacher preparation programs, high attrition rates..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet, what fcps politicians are aiming for and what fcps black students want are at odds. Fcps black students are genuinely and passionately interested in sports but fcps politicians want them to join TJ with lowest math and survive alongside peers who are already two years ahead?

Not true, my point is - black still very minority, yet people like you think they rob the Asian seat bigly.
You don’t believe if poor non asian kid is exist.

Exactly, and then there's the FACT that the largest beneficiary of the selection change were LOW-INCOME (poor) Asians.

Mid- or low-income, Asian Americans are willing to put in the hard work to uphold TJ’s reputation. Despite manipulating the admissions process, FCPS finds itself with no choice but to reluctantly select Asian Americans because of their prerequsite STEM strengths. And when other students return to their base schools during or end of freshman year due to TJ rigor, FCPS ends up calling on Asian Americans again to fill those vacated sophomore seats.
No matter how much FCPS aims to reduce the Asian percentage, it reluctantly relies on Asian students for TJ’s continued survival —because others aren't showing similar interest in STEM and willing to put in the effort to learn it.

Very pathetic post
Asian only 30% in 2010 and TJ never need any survival from certain race.
Its open to all human being who loves stem and ready to work hard, and that attitude is not only belong to Asian.
You need to get out of your very tiny bubble.

Please proof read. Lots of mistakes.

Google should be your friend.
https://www.fcag.org/tjadmits2006.html

What can fcps do if certain ethnic groups lost interest in stem education since then or always had shown low interest?

You mean lost interest in stem or lost interest in rat race (that heavily indicate by the test prep booming)?

Fcps has been highlighting the lost interest in math and stem learning, and asks students to step up and learn algebra. Even made a video.
https://youtu.be/bAXUjwYze-w

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does TJ automatically accept the top 1.5% of each middle school? When you have many more than 1.5% taking the same classes and getting all A’s, what happens next?

The top 1.5% doesn't refer to GPA or courses taken.
All kids applying to TJ write a bunch of personal essays and a problem solving essay. The essays are graded, and the kids' scores are based on the essay scores, unweighted GPA, and experience factors (FARMS, IEP, ESOL). The unweighted GPA is not a huge factor, and they don't even look at courses taken or math level.

If a school has 600 8th graders, then it is guaranteed 1.5% of 600 = 9 TJ spots. The 9 kids with the highest scores are offered admissions.

But the highest scores are not the smartest or most prepared, due to the new system eliminating math level, objective testing, courses taken and teacher recommendations, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does TJ automatically accept the top 1.5% of each middle school? When you have many more than 1.5% taking the same classes and getting all A’s, what happens next?

The top 1.5% doesn't refer to GPA or courses taken.
All kids applying to TJ write a bunch of personal essays and a problem solving essay. The essays are graded, and the kids' scores are based on the essay scores, unweighted GPA, and experience factors (FARMS, IEP, ESOL). The unweighted GPA is not a huge factor, and they don't even look at courses taken or math level.

If a school has 600 8th graders, then it is guaranteed 1.5% of 600 = 9 TJ spots. The 9 kids with the highest scores are offered admissions.

But the highest scores are not the smartest or most prepared, due to the new system eliminating math level, objective testing, courses taken and teacher recommendations, correct?

That is correct. They may be the smartest. They may not be. The ranking is mostly based on the essays and experience factors.

[Anonymous]

FYI - my kid’s school is one of those ‘poor’ schools. From what I know, only one of the top kids of school got in, and the rest are on waiting list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does TJ automatically accept the top 1.5% of each middle school? When you have many more than 1.5% taking the same classes and getting all A’s, what happens next?

The top 1.5% doesn't refer to GPA or courses taken.
All kids applying to TJ write a bunch of personal essays and a problem solving essay. The essays are graded, and the kids' scores are based on the essay scores, unweighted GPA, and experience factors (FARMS, IEP, ESOL). The unweighted GPA is not a huge factor, and they don't even look at courses taken or math level.

If a school has 600 8th graders, then it is guaranteed 1.5% of 600 = 9 TJ spots. The 9 kids with the highest scores are offered admissions.

But the highest scores are not the smartest or most prepared, due to the new system eliminating math level, objective testing, courses taken and teacher recommendations, correct?

That is correct. They may be the smartest. They may not be. The ranking is mostly based on the essays and experience factors.

+1

The idea was to get as close to a lottery as possible, which was the solution that the FCPS board tried to push the hardest.

Put a low threshold so that many would qualify and then try to keep the information available on the student to the minimum possible. Then, you get closer to the desired "should represent FCPS demographics". The main problem for FCPS board from achieving this is because of self selection bias and the pool of students who are applying do not represent FCPS demographics.

Just like most opportunists who took advantage of the riots in 2020 to pursue their own interests, FCPS board did the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does TJ automatically accept the top 1.5% of each middle school? When you have many more than 1.5% taking the same classes and getting all A’s, what happens next?

The top 1.5% doesn't refer to GPA or courses taken.
All kids applying to TJ write a bunch of personal essays and a problem solving essay. The essays are graded, and the kids' scores are based on the essay scores, unweighted GPA, and experience factors (FARMS, IEP, ESOL). The unweighted GPA is not a huge factor, and they don't even look at courses taken or math level.

If a school has 600 8th graders, then it is guaranteed 1.5% of 600 = 9 TJ spots. The 9 kids with the highest scores are offered admissions.

True but that 1.5% takes up roughly 50% of the TJ slots so the other 50% are selected based on overall ranking from the larger pool which means if a school has a lot of higher fliers more than 1.5% will get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does TJ automatically accept the top 1.5% of each middle school? When you have many more than 1.5% taking the same classes and getting all A’s, what happens next?

The top 1.5% doesn't refer to GPA or courses taken.
All kids applying to TJ write a bunch of personal essays and a problem solving essay. The essays are graded, and the kids' scores are based on the essay scores, unweighted GPA, and experience factors (FARMS, IEP, ESOL). The unweighted GPA is not a huge factor, and they don't even look at courses taken or math level.

If a school has 600 8th graders, then it is guaranteed 1.5% of 600 = 9 TJ spots. The 9 kids with the highest scores are offered admissions.

But the highest scores are not the smartest or most prepared, due to the new system eliminating math level, objective testing, courses taken and teacher recommendations, correct?

That is correct. They may be the smartest. They may not be. The ranking is mostly based on the essays and experience factors.

+1

The idea was to get as close to a lottery as possible, which was the solution that the FCPS board tried to push the hardest.

Put a low threshold so that many would qualify and then try to keep the information available on the student to the minimum possible. Then, you get closer to the desired "should represent FCPS demographics". The main problem for FCPS board from achieving this is because of self selection bias and the pool of students who are applying do not represent FCPS demographics.

Just like most opportunists who took advantage of the riots in 2020 to pursue their own interests, FCPS board did the same.

Not really.. The idea was to address the rampant cheating that had tainted selection since many were buying early access to the entrance exam.