$300 ticket for not stopping on 4 lane road for school bus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you see a school bus, you should be prepared to stop. Whether they need to change routes or move stops to quieter streets means nothing when the question is whether YOU should stop. Bus = foot off the gas and on the brake.

Go ahead and contest it, OP. But pls don’t waste everyone’s time pleading fatigue. That’s impaired driving. Or confusion about the lights. That’s lack of understanding of driving laws.

On second thought, just pay the fine and come here and complain about it more. It will be cheaper in the end.

And just wait till your baby is riding a bus and some idiot doesn’t stop.

Op here. I have an older child who rides the bus. Please don’t order me around. I hope one day something similar happens to you because you sound like a bi***

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you see a school bus, you should be prepared to stop. Whether they need to change routes or move stops to quieter streets means nothing when the question is whether YOU should stop. Bus = foot off the gas and on the brake.

Go ahead and contest it, OP. But pls don’t waste everyone’s time pleading fatigue. That’s impaired driving. Or confusion about the lights. That’s lack of understanding of driving laws.

On second thought, just pay the fine and come here and complain about it more. It will be cheaper in the end.

And just wait till your baby is riding a bus and some idiot doesn’t stop.

Op here. I have an older child who rides the bus. Please don’t order me around. I hope one day something similar happens to you because you sound like a bi***

Then you should be even more concerned about your own lack of awareness of traffic laws and basic safety around a school bus. You sound like an idiot trying to defend your bad driving. Just pay your fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I once had a bus go from nothing to yellow to immediate red on a 60 mph road. There was zero way to stop in time without rolling my vehicle. I paid the ticket.

Now you know, you MUST stop

And end up in hospital with even larger bills because you got into an accident trying to stop.

I think they should have a school sign up. When there are a ton of cars in all the lanes it’s very hard to see on the other side of the road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you see a school bus, you should be prepared to stop. Whether they need to change routes or move stops to quieter streets means nothing when the question is whether YOU should stop. Bus = foot off the gas and on the brake.

Go ahead and contest it, OP. But pls don’t waste everyone’s time pleading fatigue. That’s impaired driving. Or confusion about the lights. That’s lack of understanding of driving laws.

On second thought, just pay the fine and come here and complain about it more. It will be cheaper in the end.

And just wait till your baby is riding a bus and some idiot doesn’t stop.

Op here. I have an older child who rides the bus. Please don’t order me around. I hope one day something similar happens to you because you sound like a bi***

Then you should be even more concerned about your own lack of awareness of traffic laws and basic safety around a school bus. You sound like an idiot trying to defend your bad driving. Just pay your fine.

You sound like a know it all bi*** Pp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you see a school bus, you should be prepared to stop. Whether they need to change routes or move stops to quieter streets means nothing when the question is whether YOU should stop. Bus = foot off the gas and on the brake.

Go ahead and contest it, OP. But pls don’t waste everyone’s time pleading fatigue. That’s impaired driving. Or confusion about the lights. That’s lack of understanding of driving laws.

On second thought, just pay the fine and come here and complain about it more. It will be cheaper in the end.

And just wait till your baby is riding a bus and some idiot doesn’t stop.

Op here. I have an older child who rides the bus. Please don’t order me around. I hope one day something similar happens to you because you sound like a bi***

Then you should be even more concerned about your own lack of awareness of traffic laws and basic safety around a school bus. You sound like an idiot trying to defend your bad driving. Just pay your fine.

You sound like a know it all bi*** Pp.

And you sound like you need refresher drivers’ ed. Any more excuses you would like to make?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you see a school bus, you should be prepared to stop. Whether they need to change routes or move stops to quieter streets means nothing when the question is whether YOU should stop. Bus = foot off the gas and on the brake.

Go ahead and contest it, OP. But pls don’t waste everyone’s time pleading fatigue. That’s impaired driving. Or confusion about the lights. That’s lack of understanding of driving laws.

On second thought, just pay the fine and come here and complain about it more. It will be cheaper in the end.

And just wait till your baby is riding a bus and some idiot doesn’t stop.

Op here. I have an older child who rides the bus. Please don’t order me around. I hope one day something similar happens to you because you sound like a bi***

Then you should be even more concerned about your own lack of awareness of traffic laws and basic safety around a school bus. You sound like an idiot trying to defend your bad driving. Just pay your fine.

You sound like a know it all bi*** Pp.

Not sure why that’s necessary. That PP is not wrong.

Dp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you see a school bus, you should be prepared to stop. Whether they need to change routes or move stops to quieter streets means nothing when the question is whether YOU should stop. Bus = foot off the gas and on the brake.

Go ahead and contest it, OP. But pls don’t waste everyone’s time pleading fatigue. That’s impaired driving. Or confusion about the lights. That’s lack of understanding of driving laws.

On second thought, just pay the fine and come here and complain about it more. It will be cheaper in the end.

And just wait till your baby is riding a bus and some idiot doesn’t stop.

Op here. I have an older child who rides the bus. Please don’t order me around. I hope one day something similar happens to you because you sound like a bi***

Then you should be even more concerned about your own lack of awareness of traffic laws and basic safety around a school bus. You sound like an idiot trying to defend your bad driving. Just pay your fine.

OK, you need to calm down instead of dumping on OP. Several of us have posted that we've had tickets too, and described situations where it's very difficult to see the bus, or identify quickly enough that it's a situation where stopping is required (because you don't just stop every time you see a school bus, you'd end up being hit by other cars around you).

OP has raised a very important subject of discussion: that sometimes school bus laws present too much of a burden on drivers for no marked safety benefit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people piling on the OP are ridiculous. OP, go ahead and contest the ticket, see what happens.

Maybe you should know better, but I also know municipalities do all sort of crazy revenue schemes in the name of safety. I also know we should all be as safe as possible around school buses. See what the judge says.

Cars stopping at school buses isn't some kind of crazy revenue stream. You see the lights flashing you stop. It should be 100% automatic for every driver. Adding weird rules like "unless it's Kindergarten drop off" or "depending on what's on the other side of the street" or "unless you are confused by traffic lights" puts kids at risk. It needs to be perfectly simple. School bus lights = stop.

It's never so simple, though, and that's why people complain. On multi-lane roads in traffic, it can get really tricky to see the school bus on the opposite side, multiple lanes away, figure out if there's a median, and then come to a screeching halt because you're now right at the level of the bus and you've just decided you need to stop... only to be rear-ended by the guy behind you because he wasn't expecting you to stop.

Most people around me have received tickets for not stopping for school buses and it's always a case of highly-trafficked, multi-lane roads like this, or the intersection case a PP was mentioning - when there's a distinct risk of collision if you don't clear the bloody intersection! If it's a simple 2 lane road with a school bus, obviously everyone stops.

Op here. Omg thank you so much! I have a 3 month old and I am SO SO sleep deprived. My brain isn’t functioning properly. I don’t drive unless it’s absolutely necessary and I was headed back from preschool pickup.

Wow. You should NOT be driving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I once had a bus go from nothing to yellow to immediate red on a 60 mph road. There was zero way to stop in time without rolling my vehicle. I paid the ticket.

Now you know, you MUST stop

And end up in hospital with even larger bills because you got into an accident trying to stop.

I think they should have a school sign up. When there are a ton of cars in all the lanes it’s very hard to see on the other side of the road.

What would a school sign up do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you see a school bus, you should be prepared to stop. Whether they need to change routes or move stops to quieter streets means nothing when the question is whether YOU should stop. Bus = foot off the gas and on the brake.

Go ahead and contest it, OP. But pls don’t waste everyone’s time pleading fatigue. That’s impaired driving. Or confusion about the lights. That’s lack of understanding of driving laws.

On second thought, just pay the fine and come here and complain about it more. It will be cheaper in the end.

And just wait till your baby is riding a bus and some idiot doesn’t stop.

Op here. I have an older child who rides the bus. Please don’t order me around. I hope one day something similar happens to you because you sound like a bi***

Then you should be even more concerned about your own lack of awareness of traffic laws and basic safety around a school bus. You sound like an idiot trying to defend your bad driving. Just pay your fine.

OK, you need to calm down instead of dumping on OP. Several of us have posted that we've had tickets too, and described situations where it's very difficult to see the bus, or identify quickly enough that it's a situation where stopping is required (because you don't just stop every time you see a school bus, you'd end up being hit by other cars around you).

OP has raised a very important subject of discussion: that sometimes school bus laws present too much of a burden on drivers for no marked safety benefit.

OP is trying to find a good excuse to take to court to contest her fine. Fatigue. Baby in the car. Confusing lights. She’s isn’t going to win with any of those arguments. If anything, the PP is saving OP from a bigger fine.

-DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people piling on the OP are ridiculous. OP, go ahead and contest the ticket, see what happens.

Maybe you should know better, but I also know municipalities do all sort of crazy revenue schemes in the name of safety. I also know we should all be as safe as possible around school buses. See what the judge says.

"Pay the clerk the fine and added court costs on your way out. Next case" probably.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people piling on the OP are ridiculous. OP, go ahead and contest the ticket, see what happens.

Maybe you should know better, but I also know municipalities do all sort of crazy revenue schemes in the name of safety. I also know we should all be as safe as possible around school buses. See what the judge says.

Cars stopping at school buses isn't some kind of crazy revenue stream. You see the lights flashing you stop. It should be 100% automatic for every driver. Adding weird rules like "unless it's Kindergarten drop off" or "depending on what's on the other side of the street" or "unless you are confused by traffic lights" puts kids at risk. It needs to be perfectly simple. School bus lights = stop.

It's never so simple, though, and that's why people complain. On multi-lane roads in traffic, it can get really tricky to see the school bus on the opposite side, multiple lanes away, figure out if there's a median, and then come to a screeching halt because you're now right at the level of the bus and you've just decided you need to stop... only to be rear-ended by the guy behind you because he wasn't expecting you to stop.

Most people around me have received tickets for not stopping for school buses and it's always a case of highly-trafficked, multi-lane roads like this, or the intersection case a PP was mentioning - when there's a distinct risk of collision if you don't clear the bloody intersection! If it's a simple 2 lane road with a school bus, obviously everyone stops.

Op here. Omg thank you so much! I have a 3 month old and I am SO SO sleep deprived. My brain isn’t functioning properly. I don’t drive unless it’s absolutely necessary and I was headed back from preschool pickup.

You shouldn’t even be on the road, disgusting how you’re endangering the lives of children in your car and on the street.

[Anonymous]

I would just pay the fine. Going to court will take up even more time you don’t have. And your case is it strong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The people piling on the OP are ridiculous. OP, go ahead and contest the ticket, see what happens.

Maybe you should know better, but I also know municipalities do all sort of crazy revenue schemes in the name of safety. I also know we should all be as safe as possible around school buses. See what the judge says.

Cars stopping at school buses isn't some kind of crazy revenue stream. You see the lights flashing you stop. It should be 100% automatic for every driver. Adding weird rules like "unless it's Kindergarten drop off" or "depending on what's on the other side of the street" or "unless you are confused by traffic lights" puts kids at risk. It needs to be perfectly simple. School bus lights = stop.

It's never so simple, though, and that's why people complain. On multi-lane roads in traffic, it can get really tricky to see the school bus on the opposite side, multiple lanes away, figure out if there's a median, and then come to a screeching halt because you're now right at the level of the bus and you've just decided you need to stop... only to be rear-ended by the guy behind you because he wasn't expecting you to stop.

Most people around me have received tickets for not stopping for school buses and it's always a case of highly-trafficked, multi-lane roads like this, or the intersection case a PP was mentioning - when there's a distinct risk of collision if you don't clear the bloody intersection! If it's a simple 2 lane road with a school bus, obviously everyone stops.

Op here. Omg thank you so much! I have a 3 month old and I am SO SO sleep deprived. My brain isn’t functioning properly. I don’t drive unless it’s absolutely necessary and I was headed back from preschool pickup.

I call BS on this. If this were true, you would just pay the fine and not be planning to go spend half a day in traffic court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you see a school bus, you should be prepared to stop. Whether they need to change routes or move stops to quieter streets means nothing when the question is whether YOU should stop. Bus = foot off the gas and on the brake.

Go ahead and contest it, OP. But pls don’t waste everyone’s time pleading fatigue. That’s impaired driving. Or confusion about the lights. That’s lack of understanding of driving laws.

On second thought, just pay the fine and come here and complain about it more. It will be cheaper in the end.

And just wait till your baby is riding a bus and some idiot doesn’t stop.

Op here. I have an older child who rides the bus. Please don’t order me around. I hope one day something similar happens to you because you sound like a bi***

Then you should be even more concerned about your own lack of awareness of traffic laws and basic safety around a school bus. You sound like an idiot trying to defend your bad driving. Just pay your fine.

OK, you need to calm down instead of dumping on OP. Several of us have posted that we've had tickets too, and described situations where it's very difficult to see the bus, or identify quickly enough that it's a situation where stopping is required (because you don't just stop every time you see a school bus, you'd end up being hit by other cars around you).

OP has raised a very important subject of discussion: that sometimes school bus laws present too much of a burden on drivers for no marked safety benefit.

OP is trying to find a good excuse to take to court to contest her fine. Fatigue. Baby in the car. Confusing lights. She’s isn’t going to win with any of those arguments. If anything, the PP is saving OP from a bigger fine.

-DP

Op didn’t say she or he would give any of those reasons. She mentioned she was following a green but didn’t say the lights were “confusing”. Sounds like you just want to sh** on a new mom.