Are any MAGAs seeing reality yet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These threads are pointless and unproductive. MAGA isn’t changing. Leave them behind. We don’t need them.

You do, though, that’s the problem.

America left the Democrats because they refused to change. Just look at how popular they are today.

America left the Democrats in November of 2024.

Now tell us how Democrats are doing in every special election since.

Did Democrats win either seat in Florida? They kept the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which was not entirely unexpected.

.. even after Musk spent millions on that WI election, and the losing side outspent the winning side by $8mil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reason and rationality will never get people out of positions that they did not use reason and rationality to get themselves into.

Your statement is so apt regarding illegal immigrants and why Biden's policies resulted in a national situation that cost Democrats the election.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These threads are pointless and unproductive. MAGA isn’t changing. Leave them behind. We don’t need them.

You do, though, that’s the problem.

America left the Democrats because they refused to change. Just look at how popular they are today.

America left the Democrats in November of 2024.

Now tell us how Democrats are doing in every special election since.

Did Democrats win either seat in Florida? They kept the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which was not entirely unexpected.

.. even after Musk spent millions on that WI election, and the losing side outspent the winning side by $8mil.

And Harris spent $1.2B. Also, how much of the Democratic money in Wisconsin came from out of state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did poor people make any strides catching up to the middle class or rich under Biden or Obama?

The stats are skewed because they imported more poor people, on average people in America became poorer. Though even those who were Natives saw certain quality of life metrics reduced. Apartment sizes shrank for example. In general increased competition for finite resources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s define the supporters,
One issue supporters:
Abortion- with him
Gun lovers- with him
Immigration - with him
Transgender issues- with him
Woke- with him ( whatever it means)

Economic voters, not with him.

Dems can win them back. But oh my god, they suck at organizing and messaging.

They can stop passing gun control laws every second.

They can propose immigration reform. Make the legal pathway less convoluted and quicker.

They can propose more reasonable abortion laws. Allow them, but only up to viability, with the exceptions of serious injury/death to mom/fetus and other grave medical complications. Provide funding for abortion alternatives.

They can be more vocal about their more reasonable stances on transgender issues. Like hormone tests for sports.

They can take back the DEI lie that the GOP has spread. Reframe it as it should be: recruit for diversity, hire for excellence. The only "preference" is excellence. But the selection pool is bigger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did poor people make any strides catching up to the middle class or rich under Biden or Obama?

The stats are skewed because they imported more poor people, on average people in America became poorer. Though even those who were Natives saw certain quality of life metrics reduced. Apartment sizes shrank for example. In general increased competition for finite resources.

Black high school student graduation rates went up under Obama. I hope that translated into better earning potential. I don't know about teen pregnancy rates. But those two things matter in terms of starting off adult life with a good chance of success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These threads are pointless and unproductive. MAGA isn’t changing. Leave them behind. We don’t need them.

Well, until they call their Republican congressmen and women and say no more, we can't leave them behind; we live here, too. But at this point, they're dragging the rest of us by the ears into this ugliness. We're all losing our 401k money regardless of political affiliation. Last time I checked, my 401k's administrator website doesn't ask who you voted for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reason and rationality will never get people out of positions that they did not use reason and rationality to get themselves into.

Your statement is so apt regarding illegal immigrants and why Biden's policies resulted in a national situation that cost Democrats the election.

Your cognitive dissonance is staggering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reason and rationality will never get people out of positions that they did not use reason and rationality to get themselves into.

Your statement is so apt regarding illegal immigrants and why Biden's policies resulted in a national situation that cost Democrats the election.

Your cognitive dissonance is staggering.

Not at all. Immigrants who crossed the border and came here illegally did not use reason and rationality. Biden made it easier for them to remain here and have children. Reason and rationality won't get them out either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reason and rationality will never get people out of positions that they did not use reason and rationality to get themselves into.

Your statement is so apt regarding illegal immigrants and why Biden's policies resulted in a national situation that cost Democrats the election.

Yet Trump has removed less people and sent American civilians to CECOT, is a maximum security prison in Tecoluca, El Salvador. You and your kind are amoral lowlife a$$hxxxx.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reason and rationality will never get people out of positions that they did not use reason and rationality to get themselves into.

Your statement is so apt regarding illegal immigrants and why Biden's policies resulted in a national situation that cost Democrats the election.

The 2024 election proved that you can basically invent a "crisis" from almost nothing and win elections by promising to fix it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reason and rationality will never get people out of positions that they did not use reason and rationality to get themselves into.

Your statement is so apt regarding illegal immigrants and why Biden's policies resulted in a national situation that cost Democrats the election.

Your cognitive dissonance is staggering.

Not at all. Immigrants who crossed the border and came here illegally did not use reason and rationality. Biden made it easier for them to remain here and have children. Reason and rationality won't get them out either.

Doubling down…whoosh! 💨

[Anonymous]

Democrats are hilarious. This thread! Oh my sides!

“When will MAGA admit they are stupid and bad? When will they admit the should have chosen Step-Momala?”

Soon, Democrats, soon! Just keep repeating the “messaging” that voters are stupid, Biden was “sharp,” illegal immigration is good, and America needs biological males in girls’ locker rooms. You’re doing great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s define the supporters,
One issue supporters:
Abortion- with him
Gun lovers- with him
Immigration - with him
Transgender issues- with him
Woke- with him ( whatever it means)

Economic voters, not with him.

Dems can win them back. But oh my god, they suck at organizing and messaging.

They can stop passing gun control laws every second.

They can propose immigration reform. Make the legal pathway less convoluted and quicker.

They can propose more reasonable abortion laws. Allow them, but only up to viability, with the exceptions of serious injury/death to mom/fetus and other grave medical complications. Provide funding for abortion alternatives.

They can be more vocal about their more reasonable stances on transgender issues. Like hormone tests for sports.

They can take back the DEI lie that the GOP has spread. Reframe it as it should be: recruit for diversity, hire for excellence. The only "preference" is excellence. But the selection pool is bigger.

. Lol. Dems can win back swing voters by:
“being more vocal about our “reasonable” stance on trans athletes”
“making it quicker and easier for illegals to become citizens”
“bringing back unpopular AA and DEI policies while claiming they don’t hurt white people, they ackshually enhance meritocracy.”
Um, have you MET any swing voters? They hate all three if these policies. And you won’t change their minds with spin. Only two choices. One: back off support for illegals and transgenderism and DEI hires, or receive fewer votes. It’s all up to you and your a tual policy platform. There’s no way to have your cake and eat it too. You can’t win by “explaining” that your least popular policies are ackshually good! Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did poor people make any strides catching up to the middle class or rich under Biden or Obama?

Are poor people tanking under Trump's tariff economy? He is not helping anyone whatsoever and layoffs will be down the road.