| All the Ivies are need blind to international students and many international students get financial aid, which comes out of the endowment and is NOT subsidized by full pay students. Donors to the endowment contribute with the explicit understanding that those funds and income/principal or equity growth that they achieve will be used to provide aid to the best and brightest who might not otherwise be able to attend, regardless of where they come from. |
| I was an international student and got a full ride not from an Ivy but from elsewhere. Part was merit, based on my straight A's. Part was based on my family income which was laughable compared to US income levels even for low income families. International students don't qualify for any type of federal aid, so everything was covered by the school. Things were still tough due to large income disparities between the US and where I was from, so my parents couldn't help even if they wanted to. I was able to get a 20-hour a week minimum wage on campus job (the only jobs available to foreign students), so that helped some, but it wasn't an easy ride by any means, alone in a foreign country with no family or any financial support. |
Yes, in all likelihood, the full pay students are paying a premium, to afford others to get a discount. So you, OP, are paying. However, schools with large endowments also have unrestricted funds that might be used for financial aid. |
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I am one of those international students who got a full scholarship at a PRIVATE university. No public university will do this, but privates do AS THEY SHOULD!!!!!
Do you want to tell corporations how they can donate their money too????? |
OP thinks we got her child spot. They don't care about what our situation was or how hard we worked. We are a strawman for why her child is not getting into an Ivy League school. |
money is fungible |
looks like Harvard will need remedial english classes now |
Don't be a racist xenophobe. International students are such a small portion of these elite school student bodies, that they are the best in their countries who manage to gain admission. I have two HYPSM degrees, and for both of them, the international students were a disproportionately large share of the top students. |
Just because they are asian doesn't mean they're international. Who is racist xenophone now |
I never said I went to Harvard. Also, make sure you capitalize and use proper punctuation next time since we are correcting each other's grammar. |
No one has mentioned Asians, just international students. And it's xenophobe, not xenophone--you don't need to comment if you're not able to understand the conversation. |
NP. Correction, Ivies are not all need blind for internationals. UPenn, Cornell, Columbia are need-aware for internationals, not need-blind. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth are need-blind for internationals. |
It’s for undergrad. You can see it on their website. |
Thank you, from a parent who has a kid receiving FA. |
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Most international students pay full price. That's why schools like to accept them. |