Insane acceptances

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why private schools limit applications. So selfish to the other kids in the top 10%.

You know these kids can only enroll at one college each, right? They are taking up zero spots for other applicants? Who are they hurting, exactly?

Are you seriously suggesting strong candidates cast a smaller net for themselves because you don't understand how this works?

I think if the colleges provided a better understanding of whether a candidate would be accepted, this large net approach would be wolly unnecessary. Ie, what i suggested. A rank match system where a candidate would only be accepted to a single school

Yes, give both the students and the colleges fewer choices. That makes perfect sense.

Terrible idea that helps no one.

And how the heck can a college know who they will accept until they see the application?

You haven’t thought this through. And you are not the first.

How is it fewer choices? A student can only enroll at one college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid did amazing RD last year unhooked. Acceptances from Ivies, Pomona, Hopkins, etc. so I know it happens. Kids only report the school they are going to attend- not all of their acceptances so it happens more than you think.

Unhooked?Really?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At my kid’s school: senior this cycle accepted in regular decision to: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, CMU, Duke, Brown, Columbia, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Rice, WashU, UMichigan, UVA, Notre Dame, Williams, Amherst, Pomona and one more that I cant’t remember. Thought it was fake, but my kid said they’ve heard around school that it’s real.

why would a kid who is clearly an incredibly strong applicant apply to that many schools in RD? None of this makes sense.

Because admissions is so random.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why private schools limit applications. So selfish to the other kids in the top 10%.

You know these kids can only enroll at one college each, right? They are taking up zero spots for other applicants? Who are they hurting, exactly?

Are you seriously suggesting strong candidates cast a smaller net for themselves because you don't understand how this works?

I think if the colleges provided a better understanding of whether a candidate would be accepted, this large net approach would be wolly unnecessary. Ie, what i suggested. A rank match system where a candidate would only be accepted to a single school

Yes, give both the students and the colleges fewer choices. That makes perfect sense.

Terrible idea that helps no one.

And how the heck can a college know who they will accept until they see the application?

You haven’t thought this through. And you are not the first.

How is it fewer choices? A student can only enroll at one college.

Do you really need that explained to you?

Applying to fewer = fewer choices.

Accepted to only one but not guaranteed any one means you have a high likelihood of being shut out.

Colleges see few applications and build less appropriate classes. Hey Harvard, you wanted that math whiz from Nevada? Sorry you’re getting another pianist from CT! Got three already? Too bad! You are assigned by some mythical rank!

I can’t believe you are seriously asking this.

If there was a better way to do this, that is the way it would be done. None of you knows anything about it.

[Anonymous]

For parents asking about hooks, and especially athletic hooks, keep in mind that at least two hooks (athlete and legacy) are only applicable to one school. These people with multiple acceptances are not recruited athletes. Athletes by and large apply ED after having gone through athlete recruiting. If they're putting in multiple apps, they're not recruited athletes. Some who only just meet the academic requirements may put in some EA or RD apps for safety). No one is getting in all Ivies because they're an athlete. Same with legacy. Athletes may visit and talk to lots of schools (typically during junior year), but they don't shotgun applications. Rather, they get the benefit of a pre-read. They apply ED because they've committed. That also allows them to still apply RD if something goes wrong and admissions doesn't accept them in the end (for instance, if there is something in the full application that negates a positive pre-read (bad LORs, for instance).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why private schools limit applications. So selfish to the other kids in the top 10%.

You know these kids can only enroll at one college each, right? They are taking up zero spots for other applicants? Who are they hurting, exactly?

Are you seriously suggesting strong candidates cast a smaller net for themselves because you don't understand how this works?

I think if the colleges provided a better understanding of whether a candidate would be accepted, this large net approach would be wolly unnecessary. Ie, what i suggested. A rank match system where a candidate would only be accepted to a single school

Yes, give both the students and the colleges fewer choices. That makes perfect sense.

Terrible idea that helps no one.

And how the heck can a college know who they will accept until they see the application?

You haven’t thought this through. And you are not the first.

How is it fewer choices? A student can only enroll at one college.

Do you really need that explained to you?

Applying to fewer = fewer choices.

Accepted to only one but not guaranteed any one means you have a high likelihood of being shut out.

Colleges see few applications and build less appropriate classes. Hey Harvard, you wanted that math whiz from Nevada? Sorry you’re getting another pianist from CT! Got three already? Too bad! You are assigned by some mythical rank!

I can’t believe you are seriously asking this.

If there was a better way to do this, that is the way it would be done. None of you knows anything about it.

Again, a student getting multiple acceptances can only marticulate one. Do you seriously not understand that? SO harvard might and probably will lose the math whiz to MIT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my kid’s school: senior this cycle accepted in regular decision to: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, CMU, Duke, Brown, Columbia, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Rice, WashU, UMichigan, UVA, Notre Dame, Williams, Amherst, Pomona and one more that I cant’t remember. Thought it was fake, but my kid said they’ve heard around school that it’s real.

why would a kid who is clearly an incredibly strong applicant apply to that many schools in RD? None of this makes sense.

Maybe because there are so many stories floating around about incredibly strong applicants who are shocked when they are rejected by many schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For parents asking about hooks, and especially athletic hooks, keep in mind that at least two hooks (athlete and legacy) are only applicable to one school. These people with multiple acceptances are not recruited athletes. Athletes by and large apply ED after having gone through athlete recruiting. If they're putting in multiple apps, they're not recruited athletes. Some who only just meet the academic requirements may put in some EA or RD apps for safety). No one is getting in all Ivies because they're an athlete. Same with legacy. Athletes may visit and talk to lots of schools (typically during junior year), but they don't shotgun applications. Rather, they get the benefit of a pre-read. They apply ED because they've committed. That also allows them to still apply RD if something goes wrong and admissions doesn't accept them in the end (for instance, if there is something in the full application that negates a positive pre-read (bad LORs, for instance).

So who are these people getting into all T20?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why private schools limit applications. So selfish to the other kids in the top 10%.

You know these kids can only enroll at one college each, right? They are taking up zero spots for other applicants? Who are they hurting, exactly?

Are you seriously suggesting strong candidates cast a smaller net for themselves because you don't understand how this works?

I think if the colleges provided a better understanding of whether a candidate would be accepted, this large net approach would be wolly unnecessary. Ie, what i suggested. A rank match system where a candidate would only be accepted to a single school

Yes, give both the students and the colleges fewer choices. That makes perfect sense.

Terrible idea that helps no one.

And how the heck can a college know who they will accept until they see the application?

You haven’t thought this through. And you are not the first.

How is it fewer choices? A student can only enroll at one college.

Do you really need that explained to you?

Applying to fewer = fewer choices.

Accepted to only one but not guaranteed any one means you have a high likelihood of being shut out.

Colleges see few applications and build less appropriate classes. Hey Harvard, you wanted that math whiz from Nevada? Sorry you’re getting another pianist from CT! Got three already? Too bad! You are assigned by some mythical rank!

I can’t believe you are seriously asking this.

If there was a better way to do this, that is the way it would be done. None of you knows anything about it.

Again, a student getting multiple acceptances can only marticulate one. Do you seriously not understand that? SO harvard might and probably will lose the math whiz to MIT

But the student has no guarantee they will be accepted to one. They are assigned by your mythical and unmanageable ranking system.

Do YOU seriously not understand this?

Also, colleges need to build classes. All students are not replaceable parts.

[Anonymous]

Daughter was accepted to NW, Michigan, JHU and Brown. She ended up going 9 for 9. Her boyfriend was rejected from Michigan, NW, Duke and Penn. She says he is the better student but he wants to do STEM. Sounds like he will go to MD. It is really a crapshoot. I do not pretend to understand what made my daughter so interesting to these schools. Her credentials mirror those of other high achieving students. I will say that her essays seemed authentic so it gave the school a sense of who she is as an individual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why private schools limit applications. So selfish to the other kids in the top 10%.

You know these kids can only enroll at one college each, right? They are taking up zero spots for other applicants? Who are they hurting, exactly?

Are you seriously suggesting strong candidates cast a smaller net for themselves because you don't understand how this works?

I think if the colleges provided a better understanding of whether a candidate would be accepted, this large net approach would be wolly unnecessary. Ie, what i suggested. A rank match system where a candidate would only be accepted to a single school

Yes, give both the students and the colleges fewer choices. That makes perfect sense.

Terrible idea that helps no one.

And how the heck can a college know who they will accept until they see the application?

You haven’t thought this through. And you are not the first.

How is it fewer choices? A student can only enroll at one college.

Do you really need that explained to you?

Applying to fewer = fewer choices.

Accepted to only one but not guaranteed any one means you have a high likelihood of being shut out.

Colleges see few applications and build less appropriate classes. Hey Harvard, you wanted that math whiz from Nevada? Sorry you’re getting another pianist from CT! Got three already? Too bad! You are assigned by some mythical rank!

I can’t believe you are seriously asking this.

If there was a better way to do this, that is the way it would be done. None of you knows anything about it.

Again, a student getting multiple acceptances can only marticulate one. Do you seriously not understand that? SO harvard might and probably will lose the math whiz to MIT

But the student has no guarantee they will be accepted to one. They are assigned by your mythical and unmanageable ranking system.

Do YOU seriously not understand this?

who says its mythical and unmanageable? That is how medical residency is done

Also, colleges need to build classes. All students are not replaceable parts.

Yet they will have multiple top schools accept the same student.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Daughter was accepted to NW, Michigan, JHU and Brown. She ended up going 9 for 9. Her boyfriend was rejected from Michigan, NW, Duke and Penn. She says he is the better student but he wants to do STEM. Sounds like he will go to MD. It is really a crapshoot. I do not pretend to understand what made my daughter so interesting to these schools. Her credentials mirror those of other high achieving students. I will say that her essays seemed authentic so it gave the school a sense of who she is as an individual.

males are oversubscribed in STEM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For parents asking about hooks, and especially athletic hooks, keep in mind that at least two hooks (athlete and legacy) are only applicable to one school. These people with multiple acceptances are not recruited athletes. Athletes by and large apply ED after having gone through athlete recruiting. If they're putting in multiple apps, they're not recruited athletes. Some who only just meet the academic requirements may put in some EA or RD apps for safety). No one is getting in all Ivies because they're an athlete. Same with legacy. Athletes may visit and talk to lots of schools (typically during junior year), but they don't shotgun applications. Rather, they get the benefit of a pre-read. They apply ED because they've committed. That also allows them to still apply RD if something goes wrong and admissions doesn't accept them in the end (for instance, if there is something in the full application that negates a positive pre-read (bad LORs, for instance).

So who are these people getting into all T20?

That I do not know. But it's not the recruited athletes. Love them or hate them, but given the ED/REA/SCEA landscape, they're usually only applying one school. I guess one who is committed to an REA/SCEA school could theoretically put in a bunch of RD apps to see what happens, but it's unethical since they committed to a team. An athlete can't really apply to more than one Ivy, for instance.

I'm guessing these are kids with outstanding everything - including unique stories that indicate resilience. And I suspect this is most found in the LORs. People spend some much time talking about essays, and they're important once you have the stats to be considered. But once you get to the non-numbers part of the application, the LORs are the only thing that can be considered truly credible. I think some teachers/guidance counselors really secure students' acceptances, because they truly care about and believe in a student's potential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why private schools limit applications. So selfish to the other kids in the top 10%.

The other kids were not going to get in anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why private schools limit applications. So selfish to the other kids in the top 10%.

You know these kids can only enroll at one college each, right? They are taking up zero spots for other applicants? Who are they hurting, exactly?

Are you seriously suggesting strong candidates cast a smaller net for themselves because you don't understand how this works?

I think if the colleges provided a better understanding of whether a candidate would be accepted, this large net approach would be wolly unnecessary. Ie, what i suggested. A rank match system where a candidate would only be accepted to a single school

Yes, give both the students and the colleges fewer choices. That makes perfect sense.

Terrible idea that helps no one.

And how the heck can a college know who they will accept until they see the application?

You haven’t thought this through. And you are not the first.

How is it fewer choices? A student can only enroll at one college.

Do you really need that explained to you?

Applying to fewer = fewer choices.

Accepted to only one but not guaranteed any one means you have a high likelihood of being shut out.

Colleges see few applications and build less appropriate classes. Hey Harvard, you wanted that math whiz from Nevada? Sorry you’re getting another pianist from CT! Got three already? Too bad! You are assigned by some mythical rank!

I can’t believe you are seriously asking this.

If there was a better way to do this, that is the way it would be done. None of you knows anything about it.

Again, a student getting multiple acceptances can only marticulate one. Do you seriously not understand that? SO harvard might and probably will lose the math whiz to MIT

But the student has no guarantee they will be accepted to one. They are assigned by your mythical and unmanageable ranking system.

Do YOU seriously not understand this?

who says its mythical and unmanageable? That is how medical residency is done

Also, colleges need to build classes. All students are not replaceable parts.

Yet they will have multiple top schools accept the same student.....

This isn’t medical residency, that’s a bad analogy and you know that. And a lot of people are highly dissatisfied by that process. People PAY A LOT for college, they will not pay for one they don’t want.

Your dumb idea helps no one, and still results in kids enrolling in one college each, as they do now. It doesn’t magically make it easier to get in to an ivy. The process is still burdened with stress and decisions, just before the application process and not after.

It helps no one.

How bout this: We let kids apply where they would like to go, let the colleges accept who they want, and then let the kids and families decide where to attend and what they can pay. What a f’n novel idea! What is wrong with that?