Very good reason to get your Shingrix vaccine as soon as you are eligible!!

[Anonymous]

I really really want it but am now 52 and am still trying to find a weekend where I don’t have a significant event in case it wipes me out. I might have one in mid May or maybe mid july. This is the problem with having young teens when you are in your 50s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard the same thing and my brain immediately screamed correlation is not causation.

“It’s unclear exactly how the shingles vaccine might influence dementia risk. It may reduce inflammation, support the immune system in ways that protect the brain or involve other mechanisms. It’s important to note that this study looked at the Zostavax vaccine rather than Shingrix, which is now more commonly used.

The studied vaccine is not Shingrix and without a mechanism of action, there's little reason to believe Shingrix would have the same effect.

IMHO, those already suffering from early stages of dementia are less likely to get shingles vaccines because they already have impaired decision making skills. They can't weigh the known short-term side effects against unknown long-term negative outcomes.

You didn't read the whole article - they found the same if not more substantial correlation between Shingrix vaccine and reduction of risk of developing dementia. It's right in the article, but you have to read past the first two paragraphs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've had shingles twice and have looked but found no research on whether it makes sense to get the vaccine. Clearly I already carry the virus.

You already carried the virus before you got shingles, it's the chicken pox virus which you were exposed to as a child.

And yes, the answer is that it is worth getting the vaccine even if you've already had shingles. I've spoken about this with more than one doctor as I cared for elder patients who suffered shingles and were encouraged to get the vaccine, which will reduce the risk of a recurrence and reduce the severity of disease - just like influenza, covid and other vaccines do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im with the PP that said all vaccines make her sick. Me too. I got both doses. My second dose was delayed because of Covid, but I got it a few months later than I normally would have.

Got so sick from the vaccine but I didn't care. Two things about me - One: vaccines make me so sick. Two: I get the uber version of any illness. If the standard is you're laid up for 5 days I'm out for 10; if you "might" experience side effects from the treatment meds, I'll have those and then some. So no way was I gambling with shingles. I'd get the full face/eye/need to be a dark room for a month version and hell no to that.

People who say things like this sound so exhausting. You likely get the same effects from vaccines and illnesses that other people do. You are not a special snowflake.

It sounds like YOU are the special snowflake, poster.

I work in the medical field. It is very well known that the range of illness experience is very different from person to person, as it the range of reaction to medications. Humans are not cookie cutter bots, they are very very different. I mean your comment is just utterly stupid.

30% or more of people are actually 'allergic' to SSRIs and SNRIs and cannot get effective relief from those medications because even in small doses the side effects are debilitating. This is well known at this point among mental health practitioners.

Plenty of patients have similar issues with other classes of medication. I am not able to take a daily allergy med, I have to take a dose every other day or sometimes even less frequently because my body overreacts to the meds. Again, my PCP and allergist say this is a common issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The vaccine made me very ill. I'm not getting the second dose.

Define "very ill". You know what's very ill? Smallpox. Polio. Diphtheria.

A few days of feeling under the weather, vomiting, having a fever, rash, being bed ridden with weakness? That's not being very ill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've had shingles twice and have looked but found no research on whether it makes sense to get the vaccine. Clearly I already carry the virus.

You already carried the virus before you got shingles, it's the chicken pox virus which you were exposed to as a child.

And yes, the answer is that it is worth getting the vaccine even if you've already had shingles. I've spoken about this with more than one doctor as I cared for elder patients who suffered shingles and were encouraged to get the vaccine, which will reduce the risk of a recurrence and reduce the severity of disease - just like influenza, covid and other vaccines do.

NP with a fun fact. I didn’t catch chicken pox until age 30, from, we later realized, a little blonde girl on the train from Stockholm to Oslo.

Yes, I have gotten both shingles vaccines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard the same thing and my brain immediately screamed correlation is not causation.

“It’s unclear exactly how the shingles vaccine might influence dementia risk. It may reduce inflammation, support the immune system in ways that protect the brain or involve other mechanisms. It’s important to note that this study looked at the Zostavax vaccine rather than Shingrix, which is now more commonly used.

The studied vaccine is not Shingrix and without a mechanism of action, there's little reason to believe Shingrix would have the same effect.

IMHO, those already suffering from early stages of dementia are less likely to get shingles vaccines because they already have impaired decision making skills. They can't weigh the known short-term side effects against unknown long-term negative outcomes.

You didn't read the whole article - they found the same if not more substantial correlation between Shingrix vaccine and reduction of risk of developing dementia. It's right in the article, but you have to read past the first two paragraphs.

It's still correlation. I can't get excited for correlations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really really want it but am now 52 and am still trying to find a weekend where I don’t have a significant event in case it wipes me out. I might have one in mid May or maybe mid july. This is the problem with having young teens when you are in your 50s.

I assume you have time to be out for a few weeks if you get shingles?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really really want it but am now 52 and am still trying to find a weekend where I don’t have a significant event in case it wipes me out. I might have one in mid May or maybe mid july. This is the problem with having young teens when you are in your 50s.

I assume you have time to be out for a few weeks if you get shingles?

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I really don’t which is why I’m so super stressed about not having been able to find a weekend. I’m caring for my elderly mom this weekend, for example. Next two weekends I am traveling. Then I have a jury trial and will need to work all weekend meeting with witnesses. Then I have to drive my teen to a tournament out of state. I although I guess if I got shingles I could get a continuance from the nudge maybe or would have a good reason for my kid not going to the tournament. Everyone I know says to plan to be in bed for a full day after getting it. My husband was knocked out for 2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard the same thing and my brain immediately screamed correlation is not causation.

“It’s unclear exactly how the shingles vaccine might influence dementia risk. It may reduce inflammation, support the immune system in ways that protect the brain or involve other mechanisms. It’s important to note that this study looked at the Zostavax vaccine rather than Shingrix, which is now more commonly used.

The studied vaccine is not Shingrix and without a mechanism of action, there's little reason to believe Shingrix would have the same effect.

IMHO, those already suffering from early stages of dementia are less likely to get shingles vaccines because they already have impaired decision making skills. They can't weigh the known short-term side effects against unknown long-term negative outcomes.

You didn't read the whole article - they found the same if not more substantial correlation between Shingrix vaccine and reduction of risk of developing dementia. It's right in the article, but you have to read past the first two paragraphs.

It's still correlation. I can't get excited for correlations.

I wonder if they controlled for education level or things like diet. There’s a major correlation between diet and dementia and I’m sure people who get the vaccine are also the type of people who pay more attention to healthy eating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im with the PP that said all vaccines make her sick. Me too. I got both doses. My second dose was delayed because of Covid, but I got it a few months later than I normally would have.

Got so sick from the vaccine but I didn't care. Two things about me - One: vaccines make me so sick. Two: I get the uber version of any illness. If the standard is you're laid up for 5 days I'm out for 10; if you "might" experience side effects from the treatment meds, I'll have those and then some. So no way was I gambling with shingles. I'd get the full face/eye/need to be a dark room for a month version and hell no to that.

People who say things like this sound so exhausting. You likely get the same effects from vaccines and illnesses that other people do. You are not a special snowflake.

It sounds like YOU are the special snowflake, poster.

I work in the medical field. It is very well known that the range of illness experience is very different from person to person, as it the range of reaction to medications. Humans are not cookie cutter bots, they are very very different. I mean your comment is just utterly stupid.

30% or more of people are actually 'allergic' to SSRIs and SNRIs and cannot get effective relief from those medications because even in small doses the side effects are debilitating. This is well known at this point among mental health practitioners.

Plenty of patients have similar issues with other classes of medication. I am not able to take a daily allergy med, I have to take a dose every other day or sometimes even less frequently because my body overreacts to the meds. Again, my PCP and allergist say this is a common issue.

+1. My DH and DS get sick all the time for days, and I either get nothing or a sniffle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vaccine made me very ill. I'm not getting the second dose.

Define "very ill". You know what's very ill? Smallpox. Polio. Diphtheria.

A few days of feeling under the weather, vomiting, having a fever, rash, being bed ridden with weakness? That's not being very ill.

Bedridden for a week. Heart palpitations, massive migraine, uncontrolled shaking and sweating. My dr told me for some people the second dose is worse.

[Anonymous]

Since we are talking about shingles … It is essential to get on antivirals within 72 hrs of the rash starting. So get to the doctor ASAP to get any weird painful rash looked at. I had a form of shingles that causes facial paralysis (like Bells Palsy) and luckily started on meds immediately and it resolved quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vaccine made me very ill. I'm not getting the second dose.

Define "very ill". You know what's very ill? Smallpox. Polio. Diphtheria.

A few days of feeling under the weather, vomiting, having a fever, rash, being bed ridden with weakness? That's not being very ill.

Bedridden for a week. Heart palpitations, massive migraine, uncontrolled shaking and sweating. My dr told me for some people the second dose is worse.

I would have a hard time getting the second dose if the first dose made me that sick, but I would talk it through with my doc.

[Anonymous]

These pharmaceutical companies will stop at nothing to keep making a buck. This has to be read with a healthy dose of skepticism.