Is anyone (with CompTia and AWS certifications) having trouble landing an entry level IT job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read a little about H1B and OPT.

Democrats and DCUM love H1B and OPT even more. These programs are used by companies to replace US citizens with cheap foreign workers.

For example , OPT is a disgrace and Democrats kept expanding it under Biden.

The Optional Practical Training (OPT) is a work authorization program that was created entirely through regulation and not through congress. Any alien grad irrespective of merit or quality of their program qualifies for the work permit.

Employers are exempt from payroll taxes if they hire aliens on OPT.

It’s strictly a job displacement program where young American graduates are passed over in favor of foreign student graduates.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-opinion-optional-practical-training-problems-stem-graduates-deserve-better-jobs-opportunities/

But we are being told that there are no qualified Americans for these jobs - and somehow there are tons of college grads with IT or CS degrees unable to find ANY kind of tech work.

That's because...revelation here...big tech lies.

They didn't lie... they just didn't know the truth.

[Anonymous]

The best plan for your son is to go to college for 4 years until this disaster is over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - my son doesn't want to join the military because he's afraid that he'll get sent to the front lines of fighting someone else's war (and overall, he's not too crazy about the political situation right now). Sorry not trying to make things political - just showing his point of view.

Regarding college, he just seems adamant about not going and overall finds most of the classes that you are required to take useless. A lot of this is just the mentality of a 16 year old. However, I admit that I am impressed that he is at least trying to set up a game plan for the future by learning about and studying for his certifications. He has begrudgingly told me that he is willing to explore possibly attending community college and getting an associates degree, but he is against going to a 4 year unless absolutely necessary. In fact, he asked that we put the money for his college towards his first home instead. Sometimes, given how difficult it is for kids to get a job and buy a home, I'm wondering if he's correct in his thinking. I'm hoping that things will turnaround - and hopefully, with all the tech investment happening in NOVA there will be opportunities for him and other entry-level applicants in the near future.

Both my husband and I have post graduate degrees (law and CS) and his older sibling currently attend a 4 year college now. So we always just assumed that our son would go. However, I guess everyone is different.

I think he needs to learn that you need to do things you might personally see as "useless"--more schooling, military, trade school--in order to get where you want to get in this world.

[Anonymous]

Maybe companies will hire American workers instead of H1B interlopers from foreign countries. But right now, Musk loves the cheap H1B labor too much. American kids are out of luck thanks to Musk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell him to start with a Help Desk position.

Help desk is mostly offshored.

Yep. My employer (we did corporate IT support) went from 700 US employees to a couple of dozen between 2018 and 2022.

Yeah, the trend I saw with my employers (corporations) was when people on help desk retired or left, we generally didn't re-hire to replace them, we just increased the volume of outsourced services we used, and those outsourcing companies relied mostly on offshoring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - my son doesn't want to join the military because he's afraid that he'll get sent to the front lines of fighting someone else's war (and overall, he's not too crazy about the political situation right now). Sorry not trying to make things political - just showing his point of view.

Regarding college, he just seems adamant about not going and overall finds most of the classes that you are required to take useless. A lot of this is just the mentality of a 16 year old. However, I admit that I am impressed that he is at least trying to set up a game plan for the future by learning about and studying for his certifications. He has begrudgingly told me that he is willing to explore possibly attending community college and getting an associates degree, but he is against going to a 4 year unless absolutely necessary. In fact, he asked that we put the money for his college towards his first home instead. Sometimes, given how difficult it is for kids to get a job and buy a home, I'm wondering if he's correct in his thinking. I'm hoping that things will turnaround - and hopefully, with all the tech investment happening in NOVA there will be opportunities for him and other entry-level applicants in the near future.

Both my husband and I have post graduate degrees (law and CS) and his older sibling currently attend a 4 year college now. So we always just assumed that our son would go. However, I guess everyone is different.

I think he needs to learn that you need to do things you might personally see as "useless"--more schooling, military, trade school--in order to get where you want to get in this world.

+1 lots of "useless" things we have to do at work. Get used to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell him to start with a Help Desk position.

Help desk is mostly offshored.

Yep. My employer (we did corporate IT support) went from 700 US employees to a couple of dozen between 2018 and 2022.

No true for local government agencies. I recruit for DC, MD, VA, and GA state agencies. I get multiple Help Desk postings a month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell him to start with a Help Desk position.

Help desk is mostly offshored.

Yep. My employer (we did corporate IT support) went from 700 US employees to a couple of dozen between 2018 and 2022.

No true for local government agencies. I recruit for DC, MD, VA, and GA state agencies. I get multiple Help Desk postings a month.

DCPS is often hiring for Help Desk. There seems to be high turnover, but it would be a good start in the industry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe companies will hire American workers instead of H1B interlopers from foreign countries. But right now, Musk loves the cheap H1B labor too much. American kids are out of luck thanks to Musk.

DIAF xenophobe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read a little about H1B and OPT.

Democrats and DCUM love H1B and OPT even more. These programs are used by companies to replace US citizens with cheap foreign workers.

For example , OPT is a disgrace and Democrats kept expanding it under Biden.

The Optional Practical Training (OPT) is a work authorization program that was created entirely through regulation and not through congress. Any alien grad irrespective of merit or quality of their program qualifies for the work permit.

Employers are exempt from payroll taxes if they hire aliens on OPT.

It’s strictly a job displacement program where young American graduates are passed over in favor of foreign student graduates.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-opinion-optional-practical-training-problems-stem-graduates-deserve-better-jobs-opportunities/

But we are being told that there are no qualified Americans for these jobs - and somehow there are tons of college grads with IT or CS degrees unable to find ANY kind of tech work.

That's because...revelation here...big tech lies.

These aren't "big tech" jobs. These are mundane IT jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here, who just re-read the original post.

For information security (cloud or not), the usual background would be networking and Unix/Linux admin work, along with possibly some military and/or law enforcement experience. Getting a job (any job) which would allow him to get a security clearance would be valuable here. Note that lots of infosec work is kind of boring--writing and enforcing policies, looking at log files, etc. The fun stuff (pen testing, forensic analysis) would be much harder to get into, at least at the entry level.

Military/LE isn't more relevant than anything else. This is cybersecurity, not hrad to head in person fighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read a little about H1B and OPT.

Democrats and DCUM love H1B and OPT even more. These programs are used by companies to replace US citizens with cheap foreign workers.

For example , OPT is a disgrace and Democrats kept expanding it under Biden.

The Optional Practical Training (OPT) is a work authorization program that was created entirely through regulation and not through congress. Any alien grad irrespective of merit or quality of their program qualifies for the work permit.

Employers are exempt from payroll taxes if they hire aliens on OPT.

It’s strictly a job displacement program where young American graduates are passed over in favor of foreign student graduates.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-opinion-optional-practical-training-problems-stem-graduates-deserve-better-jobs-opportunities/

But we are being told that there are no qualified Americans for these jobs - and somehow there are tons of college grads with IT or CS degrees unable to find ANY kind of tech work.

That's because...revelation here...big tech lies.

These aren't "big tech" jobs. These are mundane IT jobs.

The people most pushing for more H1B visas and claiming they need them are not doing it for mundate IT jobs. They are doing it for programming jobs for CS grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tell him to start with a Help Desk position.

Help desk is mostly offshored.

Yep. My employer (we did corporate IT support) went from 700 US employees to a couple of dozen between 2018 and 2022.

No true for local government agencies. I recruit for DC, MD, VA, and GA state agencies. I get multiple Help Desk postings a month.

How easy do you think it would be for a 19 yr old with no college education and/or experience in helpdesk getting this type of job? Not to mention that they pay probably sucks.

[Anonymous]

There are only 600,000 H1B across all industries, and 3million IT workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe companies will hire American workers instead of H1B interlopers from foreign countries. But right now, Musk loves the cheap H1B labor too much. American kids are out of luck thanks to Musk.

And I thought Trump was supposed to be America first. I guess its only America first selectively.