Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for show. If T's lips are moving, he is lying.

I suspect Elon is scared. He keeps talking about how someone is going to kill him. He mentioned that on Joe Rogan.

The New Republic reported that Musk wants to blame the agency heads for the firings and not his beloved DOGE. But we have the tapes. He was gleeful about the firings.

He was happy to hurt USAID employees after USAID investigated him for breaking US sanctions to give Starlink to Russia.

Where does this bizarre Starlink lie keep popping up from?

What lie?
“ While Musk and his businesses were lauded initially for bringing Wi-Fi service to Ukraine, controversy erupted after SpaceX withheld Starlink access from Ukraine’s military, effectively thwarting its drone attack on Russia’s Black Sea Fleet in 2022, which Musk said he did to avoid being complicit in a “major act of war.” Russian troops also reportedly obtained and began using Starlink against Ukraine within its borders. Musk denied Starlink terminals were sold to Russia. Last year, Democrats on the House Oversight Committee initiated a probe, and USAID’s inspector general was investigating Starlink’s use in Ukraine as part of its own accountability checks.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna190646

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for show. If T's lips are moving, he is lying.

I suspect Elon is scared. He keeps talking about how someone is going to kill him. He mentioned that on Joe Rogan.

The New Republic reported that Musk wants to blame the agency heads for the firings and not his beloved DOGE. But we have the tapes. He was gleeful about the firings.

He was happy to hurt USAID employees after USAID investigated him for breaking US sanctions to give Starlink to Russia.

Where does this bizarre Starlink lie keep popping up from?

Not a lie. Nice try, MAGA, man.

The USAID OIG reported they were investigating. Why do you think Musk attacked USAID first? Because they were investigating him.

"PROJECT ANNOUNCEMENT: Inspection of USAID's Oversight of Starlink Terminals Provided to the Government of Ukraine
Announcement
May 14, 2024
The USAID Office of Inspector General, Inspections and Evaluations Division, is initiating an inspection of USAID’s oversight of Starlink satellite terminals provided to the Government of Ukraine.

Our objectives are to determine how (1) the Government of Ukraine used the USAID-provided Starlink terminals, and (2) USAID monitored the Government of Ukraine’s use of USAID-provided Starlink terminals."

Source

https://oig.usaid.gov/node/6814

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for show. If T's lips are moving, he is lying.

I suspect Elon is scared. He keeps talking about how someone is going to kill him. He mentioned that on Joe Rogan.

The New Republic reported that Musk wants to blame the agency heads for the firings and not his beloved DOGE. But we have the tapes. He was gleeful about the firings.

He was happy to hurt USAID employees after USAID investigated him for breaking US sanctions to give Starlink to Russia.

Where does this bizarre Starlink lie keep popping up from?

Not a lie. Nice try, MAGA, man.

The USAID OIG reported they were investigating. Why do you think Musk attacked USAID first? Because they were investigating him.

"PROJECT ANNOUNCEMENT: Inspection of USAID's Oversight of Starlink Terminals Provided to the Government of Ukraine
Announcement
May 14, 2024
The USAID Office of Inspector General, Inspections and Evaluations Division, is initiating an inspection of USAID’s oversight of Starlink satellite terminals provided to the Government of Ukraine.

Our objectives are to determine how (1) the Government of Ukraine used the USAID-provided Starlink terminals, and (2) USAID monitored the Government of Ukraine’s use of USAID-provided Starlink terminals."

Source

https://oig.usaid.gov/node/6814

DOGE changed the wording, but I have screenshots from when this said "Russia." They changed the wording to Ukraine because they are liars.

DOGE lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for show. If T's lips are moving, he is lying.

I suspect Elon is scared. He keeps talking about how someone is going to kill him. He mentioned that on Joe Rogan.

The New Republic reported that Musk wants to blame the agency heads for the firings and not his beloved DOGE. But we have the tapes. He was gleeful about the firings.

He was happy to hurt USAID employees after USAID investigated him for breaking US sanctions to give Starlink to Russia.

Where does this bizarre Starlink lie keep popping up from?

You mean the truth.

https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02.13_fact_sheet_re_musk_investigations.pdf

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating-starlink-over-its-contracts-in-ukraine-2000559365

https://www.newsweek.com/usaid-elon-musk-starlink-probe-ukraine-2027054

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/11/musk-usaid-starlink/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093

Do we think that this will have any impact on the pace of the layoffs? Or is it just for show?

I think it will slow them, but not entirely stop them.

Trump can read the room. Firing veterans, having to hire people back who do things like transport nuclear material or work on power lines, etc. isn't playing super well. Neither is Elon Musk, for that matter.

I think they approach they are going to take now will be to ferret anyone with performance issues, or anyone who has been formally reprimanded, anyone under investigation for wrongdoing, etc. I heard second hand that one of the IC agencies is enforcing their drug testing policy. It's always been on the books, but is suddenly being enforced. Then it will be formal RIFs or people heavily encourage to retire or resign with VERA/VSIP.

It’s not playing well, they’ve made huge mistakes (more than are being acknowledged yet), his Cabinet is frustrated, Congress is getting chewed out by constituents, all while private sector is laying folks off and Elon keeps going out like the drug crazed a$$-hat he is.

[Anonymous]

He literally said that agency heads had the final say in firing, but then also said if they don’t fire enough, Elon will fire as the final say. It can’t be both ways. What a load of garbage.

[Anonymous]

Musk doesn’t recognize any limits and Trump is too stupid and lazy to stick to them. Nothing they have done has been done legally. Some of what they have done are crimes, not just mistakes and overreaches. Neither Trump not Musk can dodge responsibility for the DOGE chaos, dysfunction, and criminality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just for show. If T's lips are moving, he is lying.

I suspect Elon is scared. He keeps talking about how someone is going to kill him. He mentioned that on Joe Rogan.

The New Republic reported that Musk wants to blame the agency heads for the firings and not his beloved DOGE. But we have the tapes. He was gleeful about the firings.

He was happy to hurt USAID employees after USAID investigated him for breaking US sanctions to give Starlink to Russia.

Where does this bizarre Starlink lie keep popping up from?

Not a lie. Nice try, MAGA, man.

The USAID OIG reported they were investigating. Why do you think Musk attacked USAID first? Because they were investigating him.

"PROJECT ANNOUNCEMENT: Inspection of USAID's Oversight of Starlink Terminals Provided to the Government of Ukraine
Announcement
May 14, 2024
The USAID Office of Inspector General, Inspections and Evaluations Division, is initiating an inspection of USAID’s oversight of Starlink satellite terminals provided to the Government of Ukraine.

Our objectives are to determine how (1) the Government of Ukraine used the USAID-provided Starlink terminals, and (2) USAID monitored the Government of Ukraine’s use of USAID-provided Starlink terminals."

Source

https://oig.usaid.gov/node/6814

DOGE changed the wording, but I have screenshots from when this said "Russia." They changed the wording to Ukraine because they are liars.

DOGE lies.

I checked the wayback machine from May 2024, but didn’t find Russia mentioned

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk doesn’t recognize any limits and Trump is too stupid and lazy to stick to them. Nothing they have done has been done legally. Some of what they have done are crimes, not just mistakes and overreaches. Neither Trump not Musk can dodge responsibility for the DOGE chaos, dysfunction, and criminality.

We can only hope that their affair ends in a murder suicide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk doesn’t recognize any limits and Trump is too stupid and lazy to stick to them. Nothing they have done has been done legally. Some of what they have done are crimes, not just mistakes and overreaches. Neither Trump not Musk can dodge responsibility for the DOGE chaos, dysfunction, and criminality.

We can only hope that their affair ends in a murder suicide.

Love it. You are, however, not "being best".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's likely that Musk will get thrown out of the government sooner or later. Nearly everyone Trump works with gets thrown out. He can't get along with anyone. His wife hates him. His kids probably hate him. No one likes him. They "work" with him because he's charismatic and he's a brilliant salesman who conned half a nation into voting for him. But sooner or later, they all leave, even Musk.

Gross he’s definitely not brilliant, a total fraud. He is however spooked by the recent Supreme Court ruling and trying to get plausible deniability lined up real fast.

[Anonymous]

Just for show. Trump/Musk are the dictators in charge. The rest do their bidding. And T/M are nihilists so they don’t care what happens to the country or MAGA voters or anyone else for that matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093

Do we think that this will have any impact on the pace of the layoffs? Or is it just for show?

As Trump accounces this, he is already going back on his word.

From the article:

"But he (Trump) also said he wanted cuts, and that Musk would remain a power center: “If they can cut, it’s better. And if they don’t cut, then Elon will do the cutting.”

Someone get ready to make another court filing with this quote in it! Hahaha.

Yep, the lawyers sent him out there to clean up the mess he made, but he’s so dumb he couldn’t follow simple directions.

[Anonymous]

Cracks are forming. From todays NYT article

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/us/politics/trump-musk-doge-power.html

Marco Rubio was incensed. Here he was in the Cabinet Room of the White House, the secretary of state, seated beside the president and listening to a litany of attacks from the richest man in the world.

Seated diagonally opposite, across the elliptical mahogany table, Elon Musk was letting Mr. Rubio have it, accusing him of failing to slash his staff.

You have fired “nobody,” Mr. Musk told Mr. Rubio, then scornfully added that perhaps the only person he had fired was a staff member from Mr. Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency.

Mr. Rubio had been privately furious with Mr. Musk for weeks, ever since his DOGE team effectively shuttered an entire agency that was supposedly under Mr. Rubio’s control: the United States Agency for International Development. But, in the extraordinary cabinet meeting in front of the president and around 20 others — details of which have not been reported before — Mr. Rubio got his grievances off his chest.

Mr. Musk was not being truthful, Mr. Rubio said. What about the more than 1,500 State Department officials who took early retirement in buyouts? Didn’t they count as layoffs? He asked, sarcastically, whether Mr. Musk wanted him to rehire all those people just so he could make a show of firing them again. Then he laid out his detailed plans for reorganizing the State Department.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cracks are forming. From todays NYT article

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/us/politics/trump-musk-doge-power.html

Marco Rubio was incensed. Here he was in the Cabinet Room of the White House, the secretary of state, seated beside the president and listening to a litany of attacks from the richest man in the world.

Seated diagonally opposite, across the elliptical mahogany table, Elon Musk was letting Mr. Rubio have it, accusing him of failing to slash his staff.

You have fired “nobody,” Mr. Musk told Mr. Rubio, then scornfully added that perhaps the only person he had fired was a staff member from Mr. Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency.

Mr. Rubio had been privately furious with Mr. Musk for weeks, ever since his DOGE team effectively shuttered an entire agency that was supposedly under Mr. Rubio’s control: the United States Agency for International Development. But, in the extraordinary cabinet meeting in front of the president and around 20 others — details of which have not been reported before — Mr. Rubio got his grievances off his chest.

Mr. Musk was not being truthful, Mr. Rubio said. What about the more than 1,500 State Department officials who took early retirement in buyouts? Didn’t they count as layoffs? He asked, sarcastically, whether Mr. Musk wanted him to rehire all those people just so he could make a show of firing them again. Then he laid out his detailed plans for reorganizing the State Department.

Marco is dealing with too much to be concerned about with staffing and reorganizations right now.