Moving from T3 school to TT for HS?

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Anonymous wrote:TT schools have tons of legacy and donor. Don't be fooled by their results.

This. The other year Dalton had 9 go to Harvard: every single one of them was connected or huge donor in some way.

Some people advised us if we don’t have Harvard legacy or are Jewish to not even try Dalton. Is it true?

No. Obviously not true. Honestly, where do people get this information?

-Dalton Alum from the 2000’s

Good to know, and I do agree this felt like an oversimplification, but the few folks me and rest of my cycle know who got in the past 2-3 years fall under these two categories.

[Anonymous]

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It is quite amazing that when I look at the exmissions for my child's non-TT (but very good) school, a large percentage of the kids getting into Ivies+ are legacies, URM, or athletes (very few athletes). And there are many kids with parents who went to those schools who end up at "lower ranked" schools.

My spouse and I both went to separate Ivy+ schools and when applying for HS, we made a point of mentioning our alma maters and that we are involved at them during our interviews. It likely didn't make a difference.

Yes, I need a hobby.

Interesting! You are saying many Ivy admits are legacy etc but many legacies also don’t get into ivies. I guess there are just too many legacies in NYC private schools.

Combine this with the responses from the Dalton alumnus and others I’m guessing:
Most of the Ivy admits from TT are hooked;
There are some unhooked but not many;
For unhooked kids Cornell and Penn are the “easier” ivies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Different poster:

It is quite amazing that when I look at the exmissions for my child's non-TT (but very good) school, a large percentage of the kids getting into Ivies+ are legacies, URM, or athletes (very few athletes). And there are many kids with parents who went to those schools who end up at "lower ranked" schools.

My spouse and I both went to separate Ivy+ schools and when applying for HS, we made a point of mentioning our alma maters and that we are involved at them during our interviews. It likely didn't make a difference.

Yes, I need a hobby.

Interesting! You are saying many Ivy admits are legacy etc but many legacies also don’t get into ivies. I guess there are just too many legacies in NYC private schools.

Combine this with the responses from the Dalton alumnus and others I’m guessing:
Most of the Ivy admits from TT are hooked;
There are some unhooked but not many;
For unhooked kids Cornell and Penn are the “easier” ivies.

Ivies are difficult and somewhat random for everybody these days, not just at TT privates.

[Anonymous]

As a recent TT parent here's what I saw -

HYP admissions seemed legacy-heavy. Not exclusively legacy, but the majority yes. Even then, most HYP legacies not getting in.

Otherwise, amazing college admissions to everywhere else def NOT at all reducible to legacy, hooks etc. Some of that sure, but not the main trend at all.

And note - the non TT schools in NYC are also filled with legacies, so this factor does not explain the differences between the schools.

I also think top 10% at T3 high schools are getting into great colleges so can't advise on whether it makes sense to switch for that particular reason. Key thing is not to fixated on HYP or Ivy generally, when there are so many great colleges out there, even by snooty NYC standards.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.

Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.

Show us.

I went to an HYP ad a dalton grad with no connection. All the way through high school, tons if people got into top schools without being connected. I’m not trying to argue, because I can’t argue a negative. So show us that only connected kids get into top schools from dalton.

I did give proof - look at their class Instagram pages and search the unique last names. I’m not going to dox people. It’s not that hard to realize via NYT wedding announcements and LinkedIn pages that it’s money + legacy in most cases.

I’m not the original poster, but this is kind of unhinged behavior…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a recent TT parent here's what I saw -

HYP admissions seemed legacy-heavy. Not exclusively legacy, but the majority yes. Even then, most HYP legacies not getting in.

Otherwise, amazing college admissions to everywhere else def NOT at all reducible to legacy, hooks etc. Some of that sure, but not the main trend at all.

And note - the non TT schools in NYC are also filled with legacies, so this factor does not explain the differences between the schools.

I also think top 10% at T3 high schools are getting into great colleges so can't advise on whether it makes sense to switch for that particular reason. Key thing is not to fixated on HYP or Ivy generally, when there are so many great colleges out there, even by snooty NYC standards.

A lots of nyc t3 private kids are happy ED Tulane. Not HYP, an amazing institution nonetheless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a recent TT parent here's what I saw -

HYP admissions seemed legacy-heavy. Not exclusively legacy, but the majority yes. Even then, most HYP legacies not getting in.

Otherwise, amazing college admissions to everywhere else def NOT at all reducible to legacy, hooks etc. Some of that sure, but not the main trend at all.

And note - the non TT schools in NYC are also filled with legacies, so this factor does not explain the differences between the schools.

I also think top 10% at T3 high schools are getting into great colleges so can't advise on whether it makes sense to switch for that particular reason. Key thing is not to fixated on HYP or Ivy generally, when there are so many great colleges out there, even by snooty NYC standards.

Thank you! This makes sense. In a city filled with over achievers it is likely that all the decent private schools have many legacies.