Moving from T3 school to TT for HS?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My DC is at HM for high school, coming from a progressive K-8. He's doing really well there, but I don't think his college prospects would be any different at any other NYC private. He has a couple of hooks along with strong test scores, and HM in and of itself doesn't really offer an edge beyond those things for a student like him.

It's worth touring other schools if you seek a better fit for your DC, but don't expect attendance at a TT school to open doors to colleges that wouldn't otherwise be open for your DC. Also, the academic pressure at TT high schools can be intense, and you really need to consider whether that would work to your child's detriment.


How did your child find the transition from a progressive school to a more traditional school?
Thank you for sharing.


Both of my DCs found that transition to be pretty seamless. The curriculum in the later grades was geared to prepare them for the kind of academic work they'd be doing in college prep high schools. Foreign languages were really the only area of weakness, and their respective high schools addressed that issue pretty well by making sure they were placed in the proper level classes freshman year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DC is at HM for high school, coming from a progressive K-8. He's doing really well there, but I don't think his college prospects would be any different at any other NYC private. He has a couple of hooks along with strong test scores, and HM in and of itself doesn't really offer an edge beyond those things for a student like him.

It's worth touring other schools if you seek a better fit for your DC, but don't expect attendance at a TT school to open doors to colleges that wouldn't otherwise be open for your DC. Also, the academic pressure at TT high schools can be intense, and you really need to consider whether that would work to your child's detriment.


How did your child find the transition from a progressive school to a more traditional school?
Thank you for sharing.


Both of my DCs found that transition to be pretty seamless. The curriculum in the later grades was geared to prepare them for the kind of academic work they'd be doing in college prep high schools. Foreign languages were really the only area of weakness, and their respective high schools addressed that issue pretty well by making sure they were placed in the proper level classes freshman year.


Great to hear. Was there a particular reason you did progressive K-8? do you think DCs had stronger critical thinking skills and problem solving skills coming out of progressive environment?
Anonymous
I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DC is at HM for high school, coming from a progressive K-8. He's doing really well there, but I don't think his college prospects would be any different at any other NYC private. He has a couple of hooks along with strong test scores, and HM in and of itself doesn't really offer an edge beyond those things for a student like him.

It's worth touring other schools if you seek a better fit for your DC, but don't expect attendance at a TT school to open doors to colleges that wouldn't otherwise be open for your DC. Also, the academic pressure at TT high schools can be intense, and you really need to consider whether that would work to your child's detriment.


How did your child find the transition from a progressive school to a more traditional school?
Thank you for sharing.


Both of my DCs found that transition to be pretty seamless. The curriculum in the later grades was geared to prepare them for the kind of academic work they'd be doing in college prep high schools. Foreign languages were really the only area of weakness, and their respective high schools addressed that issue pretty well by making sure they were placed in the proper level classes freshman year.


Great to hear. Was there a particular reason you did progressive K-8? do you think DCs had stronger critical thinking skills and problem solving skills coming out of progressive environment?


Many reasons: meaningful, authentic, and integrated curriculum; a safe and supportive learning environment that embraces diversity, encourages collaboration, and fosters creativity; a strong sense of community where students, teachers, and parents play important roles that aren't cemented in hierarchy. Things can get a little loosey-goosey and frustrating (it's certainly not a good fit for every family), but we had a great experience with it. My DCs entered high school as engaged and confident learners who understood their potential, trusted their abilities, and felt comfortable taking risks.

If you or anyone else who reads this is interested in a good viewpoint on progressive education in general, I offer you this: https://www.alfiekohn.org/article/progressive...ls-children-deserve/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TT schools have tons of legacy and donor. Don't be fooled by their results.


This. The other year Dalton had 9 go to Harvard: every single one of them was connected or huge donor in some way.


Some people advised us if we don’t have Harvard legacy or are Jewish to not even try Dalton. Is it true?


No. Obviously not true. Honestly, where do people get this information?

-Dalton Alum from the 2000’s
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DC is at HM for high school, coming from a progressive K-8. He's doing really well there, but I don't think his college prospects would be any different at any other NYC private. He has a couple of hooks along with strong test scores, and HM in and of itself doesn't really offer an edge beyond those things for a student like him.

It's worth touring other schools if you seek a better fit for your DC, but don't expect attendance at a TT school to open doors to colleges that wouldn't otherwise be open for your DC. Also, the academic pressure at TT high schools can be intense, and you really need to consider whether that would work to your child's detriment.


How did your child find the transition from a progressive school to a more traditional school?
Thank you for sharing.


Both of my DCs found that transition to be pretty seamless. The curriculum in the later grades was geared to prepare them for the kind of academic work they'd be doing in college prep high schools. Foreign languages were really the only area of weakness, and their respective high schools addressed that issue pretty well by making sure they were placed in the proper level classes freshman year.


Great to hear. Was there a particular reason you did progressive K-8? do you think DCs had stronger critical thinking skills and problem solving skills coming out of progressive environment?


Many reasons: meaningful, authentic, and integrated curriculum; a safe and supportive learning environment that embraces diversity, encourages collaboration, and fosters creativity; a strong sense of community where students, teachers, and parents play important roles that aren't cemented in hierarchy. Things can get a little loosey-goosey and frustrating (it's certainly not a good fit for every family), but we had a great experience with it. My DCs entered high school as engaged and confident learners who understood their potential, trusted their abilities, and felt comfortable taking risks.

If you or anyone else who reads this is interested in a good viewpoint on progressive education in general, I offer you this: https://www.alfiekohn.org/article/progressive...ls-children-deserve/


Thanks for your perspective! Will take a look at your link.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.


Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.


Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.


Show us.

I went to an HYP ad a dalton grad with no connection. All the way through high school, tons if people got into top schools without being connected. I’m not trying to argue, because I can’t argue a negative. So show us that only connected kids get into top schools from dalton.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.


Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.


Show us.

I went to an HYP ad a dalton grad with no connection. All the way through high school, tons if people got into top schools without being connected. I’m not trying to argue, because I can’t argue a negative. So show us that only connected kids get into top schools from dalton.


Apologies for typos. In a bouncing car atm.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.


Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.


Show us.

I went to an HYP ad a dalton grad with no connection. All the way through high school, tons if people got into top schools without being connected. I’m not trying to argue, because I can’t argue a negative. So show us that only connected kids get into top schools from dalton.


But did you have another hook, like URM, first generation college, star athlete etc?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.


Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.


Show us.

I went to an HYP ad a dalton grad with no connection. All the way through high school, tons if people got into top schools without being connected. I’m not trying to argue, because I can’t argue a negative. So show us that only connected kids get into top schools from dalton.


But did you have another hook, like URM, first generation college, star athlete etc?

Anonymous
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It is quite amazing that when I look at the exmissions for my child's non-TT (but very good) school, a large percentage of the kids getting into Ivies+ are legacies, URM, or athletes (very few athletes). And there are many kids with parents who went to those schools who end up at "lower ranked" schools.

My spouse and I both went to separate Ivy+ schools and when applying for HS, we made a point of mentioning our alma maters and that we are involved at them during our interviews. It likely didn't make a difference.

Yes, I need a hobby.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.


Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.


Show us.

I went to an HYP ad a dalton grad with no connection. All the way through high school, tons if people got into top schools without being connected. I’m not trying to argue, because I can’t argue a negative. So show us that only connected kids get into top schools from dalton.


But did you have another hook, like URM, first generation college, star athlete etc?


I had good Ec’s, good grades, good day’s. I played certain instruments quite well and got recognition for it. I wrote and published some fiction/poetry, which I look back on and cringe. I also co-wrote some research papers as a summer research associate with a professor from a well-known college, who gave me an additional rec.

I’m white - quarter Jewish, 3/4 english/german Protestant. My dad was a lawyer, my mom worked in publishing. My big brother went to a different hyp - he got recruited for fencing. But no hooks otherwise. Just did a bunch of stuff I really liked to do and it made the rest kind of easy because I actually wanted to pursue the things I loved uncynically.

literally everyone is incredibly gifted who applies to top schools. You need to be good at things and actually express and demonstrate a real desire and love for them - not a concocted ploy and hand-tailored application with just enough things to get you across the finish line. You don’t think admissions departments at top schools can sniff that out from 100 city blocks away?

It’s the same with applying to Tt private schools in nyc. They know when you’re bs-ing them. They get thousands of applications over the course of a few years. It’s not so difficult to distinguish. But people always assume that it’s because only legacies or urm’s get admitted. It could never be that maybe someone’s kid, with respect, simply couldn’t make the cut.

Not trying to be harsh, but I always see this nonsense on these boards, and I always want to see the data to back it up, which no one ever has.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.


Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.


Show us.

I went to an HYP ad a dalton grad with no connection. All the way through high school, tons if people got into top schools without being connected. I’m not trying to argue, because I can’t argue a negative. So show us that only connected kids get into top schools from dalton.


But did you have another hook, like URM, first generation college, star athlete etc?


I had good Ec’s, good grades, good day’s. I played certain instruments quite well and got recognition for it. I wrote and published some fiction/poetry, which I look back on and cringe. I also co-wrote some research papers as a summer research associate with a professor from a well-known college, who gave me an additional rec.

I’m white - quarter Jewish, 3/4 english/german Protestant. My dad was a lawyer, my mom worked in publishing. My big brother went to a different hyp - he got recruited for fencing. But no hooks otherwise. Just did a bunch of stuff I really liked to do and it made the rest kind of easy because I actually wanted to pursue the things I loved uncynically.

literally everyone is incredibly gifted who applies to top schools. You need to be good at things and actually express and demonstrate a real desire and love for them - not a concocted ploy and hand-tailored application with just enough things to get you across the finish line. You don’t think admissions departments at top schools can sniff that out from 100 city blocks away?

It’s the same with applying to Tt private schools in nyc. They know when you’re bs-ing them. They get thousands of applications over the course of a few years. It’s not so difficult to distinguish. But people always assume that it’s because only legacies or urm’s get admitted. It could never be that maybe someone’s kid, with respect, simply couldn’t make the cut.

Not trying to be harsh, but I always see this nonsense on these boards, and I always want to see the data to back it up, which no one ever has.


Edit: good SAT’s (when I say good, I mean my gpa was among the top in my class and my sat’s were very good. I also self-studied ap’s, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't consider college matriculation as a reason to transfer. If you ever google the last names of seniors attending schools, it's clear the majority of Ivy admits are legacy + money at schools like Dalton and Spence. I think your kid will do just as good if they're in the top 10% of a school like LREI and ED somewhere.


Tons of Harvard legacy at Dalton. Regular kids are not going to get those spots.


Show us.

I went to an HYP ad a dalton grad with no connection. All the way through high school, tons if people got into top schools without being connected. I’m not trying to argue, because I can’t argue a negative. So show us that only connected kids get into top schools from dalton.



I did give proof - look at their class Instagram pages and search the unique last names. I’m not going to dox people. It’s not that hard to realize via NYT wedding announcements and LinkedIn pages that it’s money + legacy in most cases.
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