why do people here think a land grant college is somehow inferior?

[Anonymous]

There is at least one state where the land grant institution is the more prestigious of the two main publics (Clemson in South Carolina), but more often the flagship is more prestigious than the land grant (e.g Michigan/Michigan State). Furthermore, states that have only land grants (e.g. Maryland) have historically neglected their public systems. Both of these factors lead to the general perception that land grants are worse, especially in the eyes of the prestige-hungry, i.e. DCUM commenters.

Also, many DCUM commenters are aiming for fields like finance, consulting, elite NGO work for their kids, and in these fields prestige matters a lot. Relatively few people here are pushing their kids into traditional land grant strengths like civil engineering, agricultural sciences, and the like, so there are fewer boosters here.

Land grants are great schools. You can study just about anything you want. But you can't in most cases go on to work for McKinsey or Goldman Sachs, so they're not favored on this board as much.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM thinks Cornell is some kind of quasi public school because part of it is land grant, which is bizarre

It literally contains a public school.
Nothing bizarre about it.

DP. How does that work? Do NY-ers get in-state tuition if they attend certain colleges at Cornell?

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM thinks Cornell is some kind of quasi public school because part of it is land grant, which is bizarre

It literally contains a public school.
Nothing bizarre about it.

ALL of Cornell is a private school.

You guys literally dont know what land grant means.

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Anonymous wrote:What benefit does a land grant university provide over another state school? For example, UF vs FSU?

FSU wasn’t a land grant school. It started as Florida State College for Women, and went co-ed and was renamed FSU in the 1940s.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM thinks Cornell is some kind of quasi public school because part of it is land grant, which is bizarre

It literally contains a public school.
Nothing bizarre about it.

DP. How does that work? Do NY-ers get in-state tuition if they attend certain colleges at Cornell?

No. I can never tell if there's one person who is wrong about Cornell who posts all the time or if there are many. All of Cornell is private. It does contain several colleges, like many universities. And four of the colleges receive money from the State of New York (for the betterment of NYS and the USA) and have a partnership for funding via the SUNY system. Because the state pays some of the operating expenses, there's a small break for NYS residents. Nothing like SUNY tuition for SUNY schools.

The State Contract schools cost a NYS resident about 70k vs the 90k at the non-contracted colleges. OOS pay the 90k at every college.

All the colleges are private and part of Cornell University.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM thinks Cornell is some kind of quasi public school because part of it is land grant, which is bizarre

It literally contains a public school.
Nothing bizarre about it.

DP. How does that work? Do NY-ers get in-state tuition if they attend certain colleges at Cornell?

No. I can never tell if there's one person who is wrong about Cornell who posts all the time or if there are many. All of Cornell is private. It does contain several colleges, like many universities. And four of the colleges receive money from the State of New York (for the betterment of NYS and the USA) and have a partnership for funding via the SUNY system. Because the state pays some of the operating expenses, there's a small break for NYS residents. Nothing like SUNY tuition for SUNY schools.

The State Contract schools cost a NYS resident about 70k vs the 90k at the non-contracted colleges. OOS pay the 90k at every college.

All the colleges are private and part of Cornell University.

SUNY = public. You just don’t like the word “public,” but you doth protest too much.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM thinks Cornell is some kind of quasi public school because part of it is land grant, which is bizarre

It literally contains a public school.
Nothing bizarre about it.

DP. How does that work? Do NY-ers get in-state tuition if they attend certain colleges at Cornell?

Yes, some units of Cornell are called contract colleges. Cornell charges a lower tuition rate to in-state students who are admitted to those colleges. Because NY State subsidizes student attendance at those institutional units. It's still very expensive at list price.

Contract colleges include the College of Agriculture & Life Sciences, the School of Industrial & Labor Relations, the College of Human Ecology, and College of Veterinary Medicine.

Historically, these schools were intended to educate professionals who went into practical fields like scientific farming, agribusiness, HR, management in the textile and garment industry, health care, etc. Human Ecology was originally a program for women studying Home Economics. My grandmother was a grad in the early 1930s. She got a very rigorous college education and trained as a medical dietician. She worked her way through school.

A lot of the "lesser Ivy" comments about Cornell go back to a time when it was considered tacky to be a salaried employee or a hands-on business person. Somewhat the same as OP is asking about re: land grants.

I think this kind of class prejudice against "vocational majors" has died out a lot. It's not a modern attitude. Kids are going the opposite way now. That's where "pre-professional vibe" comes in. Some disdain that approach, but it makes a lot of sense when college costs so much.

I also don't feel people around me are very aware of the term "land grant". I am Gen-X and I only learned about it because there was a commemorative US stamp in my childhood stamp album. People are way more fixated on USNWR rankings and sports team success.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM thinks Cornell is some kind of quasi public school because part of it is land grant, which is bizarre

It literally contains a public school.
Nothing bizarre about it.

DP. How does that work? Do NY-ers get in-state tuition if they attend certain colleges at Cornell?

No. I can never tell if there's one person who is wrong about Cornell who posts all the time or if there are many. All of Cornell is private. It does contain several colleges, like many universities. And four of the colleges receive money from the State of New York (for the betterment of NYS and the USA) and have a partnership for funding via the SUNY system. Because the state pays some of the operating expenses, there's a small break for NYS residents. Nothing like SUNY tuition for SUNY schools.

The State Contract schools cost a NYS resident about 70k vs the 90k at the non-contracted colleges. OOS pay the 90k at every college.

All the colleges are private and part of Cornell University.

SUNY = public. You just don’t like the word “public,” but you doth protest too much.

This is incorrect. SUNY is the org that facilitates the state influx of cash. You pay tuition to Cornell. ALL of Cornell is private

IT's okay to be wrong. Just google this so you can stop now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The resources that a private school
can give each student are far superior in most cases except the very top land grants (ucb, uva, mich, cornell the partial public)

I don’t think you know what a land grant is.

[Anonymous]

VT is a Federal land grant college in Virginia.

In many cases, possibly not all, a Federal land grant college will include Agriculture as one of their degree fields.

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Anonymous wrote:I dont get it.

USNWR rankings.

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MIT is a land grant college.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM thinks Cornell is some kind of quasi public school because part of it is land grant, which is bizarre

It literally contains a public school.
Nothing bizarre about it.

DP. How does that work? Do NY-ers get in-state tuition if they attend certain colleges at Cornell?

No. I can never tell if there's one person who is wrong about Cornell who posts all the time or if there are many. All of Cornell is private. It does contain several colleges, like many universities. And four of the colleges receive money from the State of New York (for the betterment of NYS and the USA) and have a partnership for funding via the SUNY system. Because the state pays some of the operating expenses, there's a small break for NYS residents. Nothing like SUNY tuition for SUNY schools.

The State Contract schools cost a NYS resident about 70k vs the 90k at the non-contracted colleges. OOS pay the 90k at every college.

All the colleges are private and part of Cornell University.

SUNY = public. You just don’t like the word “public,” but you doth protest too much.

Yeah, they are considered “New York State Colleges.”Definitely a unique arrangement!

https://www.suny.edu/campuses/cornell/

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Anonymous wrote:VT is a Federal land grant college in Virginia.

In many cases, possibly not all, a Federal land grant college will include Agriculture as one of their degree fields.

And it proves the point that they are inferior.

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Anonymous wrote:VT is a Federal land grant college in Virginia.

In many cases, possibly not all, a Federal land grant college will include Agriculture as one of their degree fields.

And it proves the point that they are inferior.

UGA is a land grant school that offers agriculture and it is in no way inferior to the DCUM’s “preferred” flagships.