Musk is coming after entitlements now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

So you won’t be drawing SS benefits when you retire?

[Anonymous]

1) social security isn’t an “entitlement”. We pay into the system for years.

2) we have yet to see ANY substantive proof that any of Musk’s cuts are connected to actual fraud. No proof, just his word.

3) Two billionaires laying people off and pulling social safety nets out from under the 99%. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

He hasn’t provided any receipts for any of the fraud he’s allegedly found yet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk should certainly look into SS fraud. Isn’t it fraud that people live longer these days drawing on social security far longer than it was projected when they started paying into it? Throw grandma off the cliff, she’s lived long enough.

Ok don’t be ridiculous. There are more humane ways to kill grandma. I’m sure Elon will help us out by developing a lethal drug and force us to buy it and feed to her.

I think sky robots with guns may be involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going after fraud, waste, and abuse seems quite reasonable and appropriate. It's too early to know whether those efforts will also ensnare legitimate payments, so getting hysterical about seniors and children who receive payments is premature. Outrage may be justified later, or maybe not at all.

Where is the hard evidence of fraud? At USAID? At CPFB?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

And how does that make it entitlement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frankly I would have thought SS one of the government programs with the least fraud. The most? They have extensive documentation of all our payments over our lives. probably agriculture or infrastructure projects for states, like the famous bridge to nowhere in Alaska.

But Musk loves to just spout garbage without first thinking for even a moment, or doing a simple google.

My understanding is the biggest part of entitlement fraud is unwarranted disability payments. The solution would obviously be some kind of traveling component of SSA that would spot check recipients and look for doctors that have unusually high numbers of patients qualifying. But then you’d have to hire more Feds and provide them a budget.

So this approach would just lead to elder care doctors. Right, go get them. Cut grandma off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

And how does that make it entitlement?

Because the future generation pays for your payments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

Lol, he LIES. It is confounding that people still believe anything he says.

This. How stupid are the people that still support Musk and Trump. Musk and Trump's BS gig to enrich themselves while they lie about OTHERS committing fraud is so transparent.

So many useless low-info American voters. FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

And how does that make it entitlement?

Just because our government runs a ponzi scheme doesn't make it right.

Because the future generation pays for your payments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going after fraud, waste, and abuse seems quite reasonable and appropriate. It's too early to know whether those efforts will also ensnare legitimate payments, so getting hysterical about seniors and children who receive payments is premature. Outrage may be justified later, or maybe not at all.

Where is the hard evidence of fraud? At USAID? At CPFB?

It is Musk retweeting fake untrue propaganda about USAID paying millions for celebrity endorsements or completely misattributing State Dept funds as coming from USAID as he is already done, apparently.

And apparently, "transparency" is cherry picking these items and withholding the full layout of spending while claiming the entire agency is full of fraud.

Would say those who just believe what he says after these prior issues should be embarrassed for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going after fraud, waste, and abuse seems quite reasonable and appropriate. It's too early to know whether those efforts will also ensnare legitimate payments, so getting hysterical about seniors and children who receive payments is premature. Outrage may be justified later, or maybe not at all.

Sure, but as others have pointed out, this would take time, a budget, and personnel. Over the past three weeks, we have learned that this is not how they operate. Firing everyone who was hired in the past year or did not vote for Trump is not going after fraud, waste, or abuse. It’s a takeover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

If you believe that, you are dumb

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frankly I would have thought SS one of the government programs with the least fraud. The most? They have extensive documentation of all our payments over our lives. probably agriculture or infrastructure projects for states, like the famous bridge to nowhere in Alaska.

But Musk loves to just spout garbage without first thinking for even a moment, or doing a simple google.

My understanding is the biggest part of entitlement fraud is unwarranted disability payments. The solution would obviously be some kind of traveling component of SSA that would spot check recipients and look for doctors that have unusually high numbers of patients qualifying. But then you’d have to hire more Feds and provide them a budget.

Want to find disability fraud? Point Elon to disability benefits paid to vets. That will keep him busy for a while.