Musk is coming after entitlements now

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Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

There is not wide scale fraud. He is the fing fraud. Get it through your skull.

And you know this from your own detailed examination of the data? Hardly. Why not wait and see, or is it too tempting to be reduced to hysterics in advance, just in case?

What's the point of a wait and see approach when we already know:

-He's misrepresented items from USAID - i.e. misrepresented things that were actually funded from the State Dept
-He retweeted a fake video with false information about USAID paying millions to celebrities
-He cherry picks and misrepresents small percentage budget items, claims "lots of fraud" but always fails to put all the expenditures out there which is anti-transparency rather than actual transparency, by definition

He gets players from China to play a video game for him (and lies about it) so that he can claim he's the best player in the world. If he can't even tell the truth about that, what won't he lie about?

Elon is a loser. I'm beginning to think he's a talented con man.

That's what I'm starting to think. I'm beginning to doubt he has all the money he said he had.

Grimes had many interesting things to say about him in a Vanity Fair article...He seemed like he was nervous about having enough money, and they didn't even have security as recently as 2020 or 2021, according to her interview in VF.

[Anonymous]

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I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable.

100% agreed. Our current deficit spending habit is unsustainable. We need to solve it through some combination of tax revenue increases, spending cuts (including cuts to Social Security, the military, and Medicare, which are the biggest expenses), and inflation.

I hate Trump and the way in which he is going about all of this, but I do appreciate that the conversation has at least been started, for the first time in many years. Unfortunately, I am concerned that the fact that this purported concern comes from the Trump administration will lead voters to dismiss it as the rantings of a crazed lunatic instead of an actual problem in need of being solved.

Ultimately, this is (or should be) the responsibility of Congress to solve, not the president.

You sound reasonable, but they are not. They want to take over and make the rest of us poor.

They are following a plan from Curtis Yarvin.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/30/curtis-yarvins-ideas-00201552

Do you realize (and acknowledge) that you guys had the past 4 years to do something about it, if you wanted things done a certain or different way? Nobody was stopping you. In fact, you would have had a lot of support from across the aisle to do some cost cutting. But instead, you guys just wanted to spend more and more that we just don’t have to spend, and let in millions and millions of people who we just can’t afford to support. At this point, Trump is in charge and like some other PPs, I really don’t care too much how he does the cuts as long as he does them. Someone is always going to be upset. But DC government workers already hate Trump so I guess their personal feelings aren’t being factored in here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

There is not wide scale fraud. He is the fing fraud. Get it through your skull.

And you know this from your own detailed examination of the data? Hardly. Why not wait and see, or is it too tempting to be reduced to hysterics in advance, just in case?

+1. This guy has nothing but a hype man nepo baby from the beginning. Wonder WTH Wall Street is going to wake up and realize Tesla is just a subpar manufacturing company.

What's the point of a wait and see approach when we already know:

-He's misrepresented items from USAID - i.e. misrepresented things that were actually funded from the State Dept
-He retweeted a fake video with false information about USAID paying millions to celebrities
-He cherry picks and misrepresents small percentage budget items, claims "lots of fraud" but always fails to put all the expenditures out there which is anti-transparency rather than actual transparency, by definition

He gets players from China to play a video game for him (and lies about it) so that he can claim he's the best player in the world. If he can't even tell the truth about that, what won't he lie about?

Elon is a loser. I'm beginning to think he's a talented con man.

That's what I'm starting to think. I'm beginning to doubt he has all the money he said he had.

Grimes had many interesting things to say about him in a Vanity Fair article...He seemed like he was nervous about having enough money, and they didn't even have security as recently as 2020 or 2021, according to her interview in VF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

Please go tell the red states, they are sucking our blood.

[Anonymous]

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I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable.

100% agreed. Our current deficit spending habit is unsustainable. We need to solve it through some combination of tax revenue increases, spending cuts (including cuts to Social Security, the military, and Medicare, which are the biggest expenses), and inflation.

I hate Trump and the way in which he is going about all of this, but I do appreciate that the conversation has at least been started, for the first time in many years. Unfortunately, I am concerned that the fact that this purported concern comes from the Trump administration will lead voters to dismiss it as the rantings of a crazed lunatic instead of an actual problem in need of being solved.

Ultimately, this is (or should be) the responsibility of Congress to solve, not the president.

You sound reasonable, but they are not. They want to take over and make the rest of us poor.

They are following a plan from Curtis Yarvin.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/30/curtis-yarvins-ideas-00201552

Do you realize (and acknowledge) that you guys had the past 4 years to do something about it, if you wanted things done a certain or different way? Nobody was stopping you. In fact, you would have had a lot of support from across the aisle to do some cost cutting. But instead, you guys just wanted to spend more and more that we just don’t have to spend, and let in millions and millions of people who we just can’t afford to support. At this point, Trump is in charge and like some other PPs, I really don’t care too much how he does the cuts as long as he does them. Someone is always going to be upset. But DC government workers already hate Trump so I guess their personal feelings aren’t being factored in here.

Over the last 30 years government spending has been highest under republican administrations. Clinton actually lowered federal staff and balanced the budget. Bush and Trump each ballooned the debt. Not to mention that republicans controlled all three branches during Trump's first term and did absolutely nothing about the debt. I don't ever want to hear this argument again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

He's not.

[Anonymous]

Elon is the King of sponging off the US Government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was a good video from congress about this. I think it was RFK. He showed that there were tons of people older than 100 years old, even 120 years old getting SS payments when they were actually dead, but that the systems didn’t talk to each other so payments were still being sent out. I forget the numbers but it really was shocking.

Proof, please. I'll bet there were a few such cases--errors--not "tons."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

There is not wide scale fraud. He is the fing fraud. Get it through your skull.

And you know this from your own detailed examination of the data? Hardly. Why not wait and see, or is it too tempting to be reduced to hysterics in advance, just in case?

I agree that there should be a detailed examination of the data. It should be done in concert with congressional staff and agency staff, to discuss line by line expenditures. It should not be done under cover of darkness by a team of teenagers pumped up on RedBull.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable.

100% agreed. Our current deficit spending habit is unsustainable. We need to solve it through some combination of tax revenue increases, spending cuts (including cuts to Social Security, the military, and Medicare, which are the biggest expenses), and inflation.

I hate Trump and the way in which he is going about all of this, but I do appreciate that the conversation has at least been started, for the first time in many years. Unfortunately, I am concerned that the fact that this purported concern comes from the Trump administration will lead voters to dismiss it as the rantings of a crazed lunatic instead of an actual problem in need of being solved.

Ultimately, this is (or should be) the responsibility of Congress to solve, not the president.

You sound reasonable, but they are not. They want to take over and make the rest of us poor.

They are following a plan from Curtis Yarvin.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/30/curtis-yarvins-ideas-00201552

Do you realize (and acknowledge) that you guys had the past 4 years to do something about it, if you wanted things done a certain or different way? Nobody was stopping you. In fact, you would have had a lot of support from across the aisle to do some cost cutting. But instead, you guys just wanted to spend more and more that we just don’t have to spend, and let in millions and millions of people who we just can’t afford to support. At this point, Trump is in charge and like some other PPs, I really don’t care too much how he does the cuts as long as he does them. Someone is always going to be upset. But DC government workers already hate Trump so I guess their personal feelings aren’t being factored in here.

Over the last 30 years government spending has been highest under republican administrations. Clinton actually lowered federal staff and balanced the budget. Bush and Trump each ballooned the debt. Not to mention that republicans controlled all three branches during Trump's first term and did absolutely nothing about the debt. I don't ever want to hear this argument again.

Also, let's not forget that any quick-fix efforts to cut government spending always end the same way--the government ends up having to hire contractors to do the work after the firings and cuttings have occurred. This ends up costing the taxpayers more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable.

100% agreed. Our current deficit spending habit is unsustainable. We need to solve it through some combination of tax revenue increases, spending cuts (including cuts to Social Security, the military, and Medicare, which are the biggest expenses), and inflation.

I hate Trump and the way in which he is going about all of this, but I do appreciate that the conversation has at least been started, for the first time in many years. Unfortunately, I am concerned that the fact that this purported concern comes from the Trump administration will lead voters to dismiss it as the rantings of a crazed lunatic instead of an actual problem in need of being solved.

Ultimately, this is (or should be) the responsibility of Congress to solve, not the president.

You sound reasonable, but they are not. They want to take over and make the rest of us poor.

They are following a plan from Curtis Yarvin.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/30/curtis-yarvins-ideas-00201552

Do you realize (and acknowledge) that you guys had the past 4 years to do something about it, if you wanted things done a certain or different way? Nobody was stopping you. In fact, you would have had a lot of support from across the aisle to do some cost cutting. But instead, you guys just wanted to spend more and more that we just don’t have to spend, and let in millions and millions of people who we just can’t afford to support. At this point, Trump is in charge and like some other PPs, I really don’t care too much how he does the cuts as long as he does them. Someone is always going to be upset. But DC government workers already hate Trump so I guess their personal feelings aren’t being factored in here.

Over the last 30 years government spending has been highest under republican administrations. Clinton actually lowered federal staff and balanced the budget. Bush and Trump each ballooned the debt. Not to mention that republicans controlled all three branches during Trump's first term and did absolutely nothing about the debt. I don't ever want to hear this argument again.

Also, let's not forget that any quick-fix efforts to cut government spending always end the same way--the government ends up having to hire contractors to do the work after the firings and cuttings have occurred. This ends up costing the taxpayers more.

The GOP/Trumpster party will cost us $25 TRILLION over the next 10 years. Their plans came out this week, so we're effed. If anyone ever tries to say this is the party of fiscal responsibility ever again....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I voted for Kamala and I think what Musk is doing is illegal, traitorous, evil, etc etc. But we also have to have a serious talk about the future of social security and Medicare in this country. As it is it is simply not sustainable.

100% agreed. Our current deficit spending habit is unsustainable. We need to solve it through some combination of tax revenue increases, spending cuts (including cuts to Social Security, the military, and Medicare, which are the biggest expenses), and inflation.

I hate Trump and the way in which he is going about all of this, but I do appreciate that the conversation has at least been started, for the first time in many years. Unfortunately, I am concerned that the fact that this purported concern comes from the Trump administration will lead voters to dismiss it as the rantings of a crazed lunatic instead of an actual problem in need of being solved.

Ultimately, this is (or should be) the responsibility of Congress to solve, not the president.

You sound reasonable, but they are not. They want to take over and make the rest of us poor.

They are following a plan from Curtis Yarvin.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/30/curtis-yarvins-ideas-00201552

Do you realize (and acknowledge) that you guys had the past 4 years to do something about it, if you wanted things done a certain or different way? Nobody was stopping you. In fact, you would have had a lot of support from across the aisle to do some cost cutting. But instead, you guys just wanted to spend more and more that we just don’t have to spend, and let in millions and millions of people who we just can’t afford to support. At this point, Trump is in charge and like some other PPs, I really don’t care too much how he does the cuts as long as he does them. Someone is always going to be upset. But DC government workers already hate Trump so I guess their personal feelings aren’t being factored in here.

Over the last 30 years government spending has been highest under republican administrations. Clinton actually lowered federal staff and balanced the budget. Bush and Trump each ballooned the debt. Not to mention that republicans controlled all three branches during Trump's first term and did absolutely nothing about the debt. I don't ever want to hear this argument again.

Also, let's not forget that any quick-fix efforts to cut government spending always end the same way--the government ends up having to hire contractors to do the work after the firings and cuttings have occurred. This ends up costing the taxpayers more.

That’s why the GOP led government is looking to add $4 trillion to the debt. That’s not a budget for people planning to make cuts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you have people who are presumably 150 years old receiving social security, there is fraud.
Get rid of the fraud. I am all for it.

The funniest part is that MAGA clowns are so ignorant, they have no clue what they're doing. It's clear Elon and his so called genius crew of DOGE coders have no idea what they're doing.

Social security runs on COBOL language. The dating system is strange, and the entire thing is also based on standards from 1875 - which is exactly 150 years ago.

Thus, if you don't understand the code and how COBOL stores dating information, you will get back a zero - which defaults the date to 150 years old.

Isn't amazing this genius team of DOGE, who could be misinterpreting errors in code they don't understand at all, is messing around in the treasury changing code written in COBOL along with meddling in everything from social security and Medicare to nuclear weapons and personnel files for everyone in intelligence?

That's actually really interesting. They really don't know what they're doing.

Well that's the rumor going online right now. Depends if it it correct or not.

I think this thread may end up like the "$400 million Tesla" thread. All the lemmings jumping on the outrage train when they don't know the facts. It's all feelings with these people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

There is not wide scale fraud. He is the fing fraud. Get it through your skull.

And you know this from your own detailed examination of the data? Hardly. Why not wait and see, or is it too tempting to be reduced to hysterics in advance, just in case?

We all know that he is taking money hand over fist from the US government. Having him also audit the government is a huge conflict of interest. All of this is public informaiton.

I'm just laughing that people are calling what he's doing an "audit." Has he ever audited anything before? have the DOGE boyz? What auditing system is he using? Is he following the regulations? Do they know that there are regulations?

(nevermind)

[Anonymous]

Where’s the beef?