Musk is coming after entitlements now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

Once again, Musk is not going after fraud. He's just throwing more spaghetti at the wall and trying to manipulate people who don't understand the government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

Yes, everyone knows that this is how it works. Lol. Nobody thinks their money is sitting in a shoebox somewhere with their name on it. If you think this is alarming, wait’ll you learn about banks! That money you deposit? They give it to someone else! And then when you make a withdrawal, they steal someone else’s money to give to you! Someone tell on so he can save us by confiscating all the money in all the banks!

Of course! You’re so smart. And everyone should know that the SS entitlement is not sustainable. But everyone wants to kick the can down the road “just a little farther”. But the farther we kick the can, the more abrupt and painful the scaling back will be. Both parties want the other party to do the initial hatchet job—here the Ds might get a win by letting Musk fire-up the chainsaw. Or are you afraid the younger generation will acknowledge that scaling SS back actually takes some burden off their back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?

There is zero evidence of fraud so far. Musk has found none. Not a single penny. You're not going to see fraud in payments data. You'll need to do investigations, get into the contracts, communication reviews, site visits, etc. It's extremely time consuming and complex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you have people who are presumably 150 years old receiving social security, there is fraud.
Get rid of the fraud. I am all for it.

He said that, but then he also said there was no identifying info available. It can’t be both. I suspect it will turn out that he made the whole thing up, or it was money sent to a payee who has more than one patient.

[Anonymous]

Fraud is when grandma lives past 75.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

For those like you who are not paying attention and recognizing this psycho’s pattern, he arbitrarily declares fraud and then burns the whole thing down so there is nothing left. Wake up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

Yes, everyone knows that this is how it works. Lol. Nobody thinks their money is sitting in a shoebox somewhere with their name on it. If you think this is alarming, wait’ll you learn about banks! That money you deposit? They give it to someone else! And then when you make a withdrawal, they steal someone else’s money to give to you! Someone tell on so he can save us by confiscating all the money in all the banks!

Of course! You’re so smart. And everyone should know that the SS entitlement is not sustainable. But everyone wants to kick the can down the road “just a little farther”. But the farther we kick the can, the more abrupt and painful the scaling back will be. Both parties want the other party to do the initial hatchet job—here the Ds might get a win by letting Musk fire-up the chainsaw. Or are you afraid the younger generation will acknowledge that scaling SS back actually takes some burden off their back?

You are unbelievably naive.

[Anonymous]

There was a good video from congress about this. I think it was RFK. He showed that there were tons of people older than 100 years old, even 120 years old getting SS payments when they were actually dead, but that the systems didn’t talk to each other so payments were still being sent out. I forget the numbers but it really was shocking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?

There is zero evidence of fraud so far. Musk has found none. Not a single penny. You're not going to see fraud in payments data. You'll need to do investigations, get into the contracts, communication reviews, site visits, etc. It's extremely time consuming and complex.

Have you seen how many doctors get prosecuted for Medicare fraud every year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you have people who are presumably 150 years old receiving social security, there is fraud.
Get rid of the fraud. I am all for it.

Survivorship.
See Musk spouts off something without taking the time to ask anyone whether there might be a valid reason and republicans run with it. Do you not use critical thinking ever?

Survivorship? Lol. We all know that words over three syllables are not real. MAGA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

Yes, everyone knows that this is how it works. Lol. Nobody thinks their money is sitting in a shoebox somewhere with their name on it. If you think this is alarming, wait’ll you learn about banks! That money you deposit? They give it to someone else! And then when you make a withdrawal, they steal someone else’s money to give to you! Someone tell on so he can save us by confiscating all the money in all the banks!

Of course! You’re so smart. And everyone should know that the SS entitlement is not sustainable. But everyone wants to kick the can down the road “just a little farther”. But the farther we kick the can, the more abrupt and painful the scaling back will be. Both parties want the other party to do the initial hatchet job—here the Ds might get a win by letting Musk fire-up the chainsaw. Or are you afraid the younger generation will acknowledge that scaling SS back actually takes some burden off their back?

You are unbelievably naive.

You think SS is sustainable as currently operating? That’s naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid

Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?

There is zero evidence of fraud so far. Musk has found none. Not a single penny. You're not going to see fraud in payments data. You'll need to do investigations, get into the contracts, communication reviews, site visits, etc. It's extremely time consuming and complex.

Have you seen how many doctors get prosecuted for Medicare fraud every year?

I'm guessing you didn't finish making your point. Please continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?

SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.

Yes, everyone knows that this is how it works. Lol. Nobody thinks their money is sitting in a shoebox somewhere with their name on it. If you think this is alarming, wait’ll you learn about banks! That money you deposit? They give it to someone else! And then when you make a withdrawal, they steal someone else’s money to give to you! Someone tell on so he can save us by confiscating all the money in all the banks!

Of course! You’re so smart. And everyone should know that the SS entitlement is not sustainable. But everyone wants to kick the can down the road “just a little farther”. But the farther we kick the can, the more abrupt and painful the scaling back will be. Both parties want the other party to do the initial hatchet job—here the Ds might get a win by letting Musk fire-up the chainsaw. Or are you afraid the younger generation will acknowledge that scaling SS back actually takes some burden off their back?

You are unbelievably naive.

You think SS is sustainable as currently operating? That’s naive.

Musk has zero authority to decide what social security payments get made and what payments don't get made, particularly at a scale that makes the program sustainable. You're beyond naive if you think this is a viable path toward a solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In his own words...

I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.

If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.

For those like you who are not paying attention and recognizing this psycho’s pattern, he arbitrarily declares fraud and then burns the whole thing down so there is nothing left. Wake up!

He’s counting on dumb people like the PP who just eat up his lies.