Parent Perspective

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Just saying what I have seen!

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Anonymous wrote:Just saying what I have seen!

Just remember past performance doesn't guarantee future results!

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Anonymous wrote:Times have changed. You can’t exactly be “just talented” and the rest will follow. You need extra training, classes, private coaching…all that requires money. I don’t believe anyone can be discovered like Ronaldo for example. In this time and day, you need money for everything

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Anonymous wrote:Always try to play at the highest levels you can get to. If you're playing at a low level at younger ages, it will be hard to match the speed of play at the higher levels because it is just something your not used to. Can a player play high school football and still be a pro? Maybe. A broken clock is right twice a day. But it is much less likely. We are talking about the best chances of success.

It’s tough to know how to attribute success. Are the successful ones successful because they followed this blueprint? Or were they likely to be successful no matter which path they took because they had what it takes. Hard to say.

It’s similar to how graduates from top colleges have higher paying jobs. Is it because they went to that college, or is it because that college filters for the types of kids who would perform well no matter where they went to college.

The kids that start with private training, play high level early, and follow the “blueprint” is a filtering system for the types of players who were already likely to succeed. I don’t think it makes them succeed.

It's sports.
No one is likely to succeed to top levels without the required work and sacrifice

Exactly. And identifying who has those attributes is very difficult to predict at young ages. Really until later teen years.

Makes no sense

Late in teen years to sacrifice and put in consistent hard work is too late.
Unless you're not talking about going professional.

Not saying sacrifice and hard work don’t need to start until teen years. I’m saying just because a kid is working hard and loving soccer at 10 years old doesn’t mean they will at 17. It’s a different kind of work at 17, more like a job at that point. Nutrition, fitness, mindset, injuries, so many things that aren’t about soccer that are required at 17 that weren’t there at 10. Predicting which 10 year olds will be willing to do the those things at 17 is difficult.

There are things required at 10 that wasn't required at 5
Thats why development is stages and phases

You need what you need to go from foundational stages to development stages to performance stages

You better already have the baseline for nutrition, fitness, injury prevention etc way before 17

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Anonymous wrote:Just saying what I have seen!

Just remember past performance doesn't guarantee future results!

We see kids every weekend who's performances guarantees a future result of no professional soccer

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

Sounds like you don't know youth club travel soccer (which includes extra strength training, futsal, 3x a week practices and 10-month seasons -- all in elementary school AND that doesn't include all the camps, Super Y, ODP, etc OR the mental performance training/mentors).

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We give them so much soccer, they will either love it or hate it by 10.

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also take into account coaches ego. some coaches will not support your kid if they are not convinced they had the idea that your kid was worth. they want to find the gems otherwise they won't support it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

Got any studies to back that up? Not soccer specific but pro's in other sports are more likely to have been multi-sport athletes rather than a single sport earlier on. There might be something to that or not you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

Got any studies to back that up? Not soccer specific but pro's in other sports are more likely to have been multi-sport athletes rather than a single sport earlier on. There might be something to that or not you do you.

Burnout from doing multiple sports means it's not burnout from soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

Sounds like you don't know youth club travel soccer (which includes extra strength training, futsal, 3x a week practices and 10-month seasons -- all in elementary school AND that doesn't include all the camps, Super Y, ODP, etc OR the mental performance training/mentors).

That's why the OP wants to hear from the parents who actually got kids from grassroots to MLS Academy and beyond levels

Did they do all what you listed above?
If they did, it didn't burn them out apparently

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We know of a family who put their kids into soccer to keep them busy. Rec to travel, at the same club. No extra training, no futsal, just to play and have fun. Club happened to land MLS Next, which opened doors for them. One ended up at college on a full ride and the other at an MLS academy. While it's not pro, it's definitely further than most kids get. So no I don't believe there is a blueprint, it's really up to the kid. But I will say, extra training will help!

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Who the heck cares? What a dumb thing to be focused on right now

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Anonymous wrote:Who the heck cares? What a dumb thing to be focused on right now

What are the smart things for everyone to be focused on right now?