Any chance that Trump will reopen Beach Drive? Or force DC to resume rush hour lanes on Conn Ave?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OMG I hate Trump but this is a fantastic idea.



Ditto. If he reopens Beach Drive it’ll be the best thing he does.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP here: my theory is that they hate anything that is intended to protect the environment (Beach closure), especially if it mostly protects UMC remote workers (Beach closure.) And that they might be happy to push the DC government around (Conn Ave reopening.)

Btw the current traffic patterns suck and do no one any favors, especially NWDC neighborhoods.


Beach wasn't closed to protect the environment. It was closed during the pandemic to give people a place to walk and bike during the lockdowns.

That's the angle if you want one. It is one of the last remnants, along with the streateries, of the lockdown measures.


Beach Dr will never reopen to autos. Just like how Klingle Rd NW (the section through the woods to Beach Drive) was famously abandoned due to lack of funds for road repair. It never reopened and funds were eventually approved to convert it into the trail it is today. Temporary measures often become permanent.
Anonymous
And when is he going to fix the pothole on M street?
Anonymous
My sense is that this could also affect the downtown streets where lanes and parking were greatly reduced during Covid. Otherwise there will be major gridlock.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here: my theory is that they hate anything that is intended to protect the environment (Beach closure), especially if it mostly protects UMC remote workers (Beach closure.) And that they might be happy to push the DC government around (Conn Ave reopening.)

Btw the current traffic patterns suck and do no one any favors, especially NWDC neighborhoods.


Beach wasn't closed to protect the environment. It was closed during the pandemic to give people a place to walk and bike during the lockdowns.

That's the angle if you want one. It is one of the last remnants, along with the streateries, of the lockdown measures.


Beach Dr will never reopen to autos. Just like how Klingle Rd NW (the section through the woods to Beach Drive) was famously abandoned due to lack of funds for road repair. It never reopened and funds were eventually approved to convert it into the trail it is today. Temporary measures often become permanent.


That's the lesson. I would never have supported the initial temporary measure if I had known what would happen.

NPS was set to reopen it until the now known usual suspects backdoored an overrule to start the bike wars.

The worst part is that it had never been open on the weekends and was always available for recreation. We weren't losing anything by reopening it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My sense is that this could also affect the downtown streets where lanes and parking were greatly reduced during Covid. Otherwise there will be major gridlock.


Major gridlock was the goal. A lot of this was done to try and prevent RTO from happening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here: my theory is that they hate anything that is intended to protect the environment (Beach closure), especially if it mostly protects UMC remote workers (Beach closure.) And that they might be happy to push the DC government around (Conn Ave reopening.)

Btw the current traffic patterns suck and do no one any favors, especially NWDC neighborhoods.


Beach wasn't closed to protect the environment. It was closed during the pandemic to give people a place to walk and bike during the lockdowns.

That's the angle if you want one. It is one of the last remnants, along with the streateries, of the lockdown measures.


Beach Dr will never reopen to autos. Just like how Klingle Rd NW (the section through the woods to Beach Drive) was famously abandoned due to lack of funds for road repair. It never reopened and funds were eventually approved to convert it into the trail it is today. Temporary measures often become permanent.


That's the lesson. I would never have supported the initial temporary measure if I had known what would happen.

NPS was set to reopen it until the now known usual suspects backdoored an overrule to start the bike wars.

The worst part is that it had never been open on the weekends and was always available for recreation. We weren't losing anything by reopening it.


It wasn't *just" the "bike lobby" - the sierra club and other environmental groups understand the impact of cars on a natural resource like Rock Creek Park. The mission of the National Park Service is not to facilitate autocentric commuting to downtown DC, but rather to tend to the national parks, of which, Rock Creek is one.
Anonymous
Kill the bike lanes forever!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It wasn't *just" the "bike lobby" - the sierra club and other environmental groups understand the impact of cars on a natural resource like Rock Creek Park. The mission of the National Park Service is not to facilitate autocentric commuting to downtown DC, but rather to tend to the national parks, of which, Rock Creek is one.


Amen. Drivers--eat 5hlt
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here: my theory is that they hate anything that is intended to protect the environment (Beach closure), especially if it mostly protects UMC remote workers (Beach closure.) And that they might be happy to push the DC government around (Conn Ave reopening.)

Btw the current traffic patterns suck and do no one any favors, especially NWDC neighborhoods.


Beach wasn't closed to protect the environment. It was closed during the pandemic to give people a place to walk and bike during the lockdowns.

That's the angle if you want one. It is one of the last remnants, along with the streateries, of the lockdown measures.


Beach Dr will never reopen to autos. Just like how Klingle Rd NW (the section through the woods to Beach Drive) was famously abandoned due to lack of funds for road repair. It never reopened and funds were eventually approved to convert it into the trail it is today. Temporary measures often become permanent.


That's the lesson. I would never have supported the initial temporary measure if I had known what would happen.

NPS was set to reopen it until the now known usual suspects backdoored an overrule to start the bike wars.

The worst part is that it had never been open on the weekends and was always available for recreation. We weren't losing anything by reopening it.


It wasn't *just" the "bike lobby" - the sierra club and other environmental groups understand the impact of cars on a natural resource like Rock Creek Park. The mission of the National Park Service is not to facilitate autocentric commuting to downtown DC, but rather to tend to the national parks, of which, Rock Creek is one.


The NPS and all the environmental groups care so much about protecting Rock Creek National Park that they only closed one stretch of Beach Drive and none of RCP - and the segment that they closed just happens to abut the highest income neighborhoods around the park. Wow, what a coincidence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here: my theory is that they hate anything that is intended to protect the environment (Beach closure), especially if it mostly protects UMC remote workers (Beach closure.) And that they might be happy to push the DC government around (Conn Ave reopening.)

Btw the current traffic patterns suck and do no one any favors, especially NWDC neighborhoods.


Beach wasn't closed to protect the environment. It was closed during the pandemic to give people a place to walk and bike during the lockdowns.

That's the angle if you want one. It is one of the last remnants, along with the streateries, of the lockdown measures.


Beach Dr will never reopen to autos. Just like how Klingle Rd NW (the section through the woods to Beach Drive) was famously abandoned due to lack of funds for road repair. It never reopened and funds were eventually approved to convert it into the trail it is today. Temporary measures often become permanent.


That's the lesson. I would never have supported the initial temporary measure if I had known what would happen.

NPS was set to reopen it until the now known usual suspects backdoored an overrule to start the bike wars.

The worst part is that it had never been open on the weekends and was always available for recreation. We weren't losing anything by reopening it.


It wasn't *just" the "bike lobby" - the sierra club and other environmental groups understand the impact of cars on a natural resource like Rock Creek Park. The mission of the National Park Service is not to facilitate autocentric commuting to downtown DC, but rather to tend to the national parks, of which, Rock Creek is one.


See nothing but woke ideology and an attempt to prevent RTO from ever happening.

What's even funnier is that you all actually argued that bike lanes were DEI too.
Anonymous
Wow they are so good at creating groups and pitting them against each other.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here: my theory is that they hate anything that is intended to protect the environment (Beach closure), especially if it mostly protects UMC remote workers (Beach closure.) And that they might be happy to push the DC government around (Conn Ave reopening.)

Btw the current traffic patterns suck and do no one any favors, especially NWDC neighborhoods.


Beach wasn't closed to protect the environment. It was closed during the pandemic to give people a place to walk and bike during the lockdowns.

That's the angle if you want one. It is one of the last remnants, along with the streateries, of the lockdown measures.


Beach Dr will never reopen to autos. Just like how Klingle Rd NW (the section through the woods to Beach Drive) was famously abandoned due to lack of funds for road repair. It never reopened and funds were eventually approved to convert it into the trail it is today. Temporary measures often become permanent.


That's the lesson. I would never have supported the initial temporary measure if I had known what would happen.

NPS was set to reopen it until the now known usual suspects backdoored an overrule to start the bike wars.

The worst part is that it had never been open on the weekends and was always available for recreation. We weren't losing anything by reopening it.


It wasn't *just" the "bike lobby" - the sierra club and other environmental groups understand the impact of cars on a natural resource like Rock Creek Park. The mission of the National Park Service is not to facilitate autocentric commuting to downtown DC, but rather to tend to the national parks, of which, Rock Creek is one.


The NPS and all the environmental groups care so much about protecting Rock Creek National Park that they only closed one stretch of Beach Drive and none of RCP - and the segment that they closed just happens to abut the highest income neighborhoods around the park. Wow, what a coincidence.


NPS wanted to re-open it after the pandemic. It also wasn't a lot of environmental groups because it had nothing to do with the environment. No park land was gained or lost. The only issue was whether the road would be limited to recreational use on weekdays as well as weekends.
Anonymous
One bright spot in this dumpster fire would be getting rid of bike lanes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here: my theory is that they hate anything that is intended to protect the environment (Beach closure), especially if it mostly protects UMC remote workers (Beach closure.) And that they might be happy to push the DC government around (Conn Ave reopening.)

Btw the current traffic patterns suck and do no one any favors, especially NWDC neighborhoods.


Beach wasn't closed to protect the environment. It was closed during the pandemic to give people a place to walk and bike during the lockdowns.

That's the angle if you want one. It is one of the last remnants, along with the streateries, of the lockdown measures.


Beach Dr will never reopen to autos. Just like how Klingle Rd NW (the section through the woods to Beach Drive) was famously abandoned due to lack of funds for road repair. It never reopened and funds were eventually approved to convert it into the trail it is today. Temporary measures often become permanent.


That's the lesson. I would never have supported the initial temporary measure if I had known what would happen.

NPS was set to reopen it until the now known usual suspects backdoored an overrule to start the bike wars.

The worst part is that it had never been open on the weekends and was always available for recreation. We weren't losing anything by reopening it.


It wasn't *just" the "bike lobby" - the sierra club and other environmental groups understand the impact of cars on a natural resource like Rock Creek Park. The mission of the National Park Service is not to facilitate autocentric commuting to downtown DC, but rather to tend to the national parks, of which, Rock Creek is one.


The NPS and all the environmental groups care so much about protecting Rock Creek National Park that they only closed one stretch of Beach Drive and none of RCP - and the segment that they closed just happens to abut the highest income neighborhoods around the park. Wow, what a coincidence.


Closing roads to car traffic is the socially acceptable way rich white people keep the riff raff out of their neighborhoods.
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