HP Elite Question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are paying thousands of dollars for club soccer and they aren't teaching skills?

Yes, all clubs are a business. It’s the American model. Don’t pretend to be ignorant on the matter. Pay to play system. Certainly you’ve heard that term before.

[Anonymous]

Tough to join club soccer and want them to instill a technical foundation. Maybe this can be expected at like ages below U10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are paying thousands of dollars for club soccer and they aren't teaching skills?

Yes, all clubs are a business. It’s the American model. Don’t pretend to be ignorant on the matter. Pay to play system. Certainly you’ve heard that term before.

What are they doing at all those practices?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are paying thousands of dollars for club soccer and they aren't teaching skills?

Yes, all clubs are a business. It’s the American model. Don’t pretend to be ignorant on the matter. Pay to play system. Certainly you’ve heard that term before.

What are they doing at all those practices?

Clubs are to make money.

If you play for a high level league, you will also be training with different trainers outside of club practices. Why? Cause it is a competitive setting and no parent wants their little Jimmy to be the weakest on the team.

[Anonymous]

I'm always reminded that this basic truth of club soccer is hidden from new parents. They will not be teaching your kid to juggle, dribble, send and receive passes, etc.

They will teach positioning and on the ball/off the ball movement, progressing the ball up the field, set pieces etc.

You are expected to have or be developing all the individual skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm always reminded that this basic truth of club soccer is hidden from new parents. They will not be teaching your kid to juggle, dribble, send and receive passes, etc.

They will teach positioning and on the ball/off the ball movement, progressing the ball up the field, set pieces etc.

You are expected to have or be developing all the individual skills.

You're not wrong at all. But then kids start extra training outside of practice and they start to excel. What it taught at HP, False8, Striker Clinics and Next Star for example usually are skills that are not coached in Club soccer at all. HP is good at helping to develop those skills and practice them on a consistent basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People are paying thousands of dollars for club soccer and they aren't teaching skills?

Yes, all clubs are a business. It’s the American model. Don’t pretend to be ignorant on the matter. Pay to play system. Certainly you’ve heard that term before.

What are they doing at all those practices?

Maybe 10% skills work and 90% small-sided or full-sided scrimmages. It is a lot of practices and the Coaches sometimes do not have al ton of oversight from their Clubs. They revert back to scrimmaging a lot. They may go over some foot skills, like step overs, V-pulls, inside & outside.... but they don't follow up by making the kids repeat the drills and set up scenarios where they have to use them in drills. There is not a lot of individual attention.

After 4 years in travel soccer, we have noticed the kids that start to do new and amazing things on the field are the kids who learn these skills outside of team practices. Those kids (and the super athletes) are promoted to the 1st teams.

There is a big market for clubs like HP Elite that provide extra training clubs and focus on skill development as most kids will not got that in team trainings.

[Anonymous]

I have never been to HP Elite but I imagine they are similar to Next Star. Many people on these forums trash Next Star but we have found them to be an invaluable resource to my child's development.

The problem is the expansion of the club model to lower level teams. I have seen some teams play and wonder why in the world are they playing travel versus just enjoying rec. The effort level of the kids, their skill set, etc. is just not worthy of $3k a year investment from the parents and the traveling. The first team players for kids that are just 9-10 have a ball at their feet 1-2 hours a day. The clubs won't tell you this.

I grew up playing basketball and we used to dribble to school and back home. The running backs would have a football in their hands all day and would have to prevent the entire school from stripping it.

Regardless of the sport, if you want to excel, extra is needed.

You always have the option of Youtube videos at home, Dribble Up, 7MLC, etc. if you want to keep the costs down.

If you have a child who wants to play college and pro ball, the investment in supplemental training is essential. For a child who just wants to have fun, you can create home routines via the sources above and play rec. Perfectly ok!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Club soccer is never designed to teach basic skills, all these programs are setup to fill in that gap.

Club neutral means all clubs are welcome, no clubs are advocated for by the staff or favored, and likely that no kit for youth clubs are allowed.

You do know where the owner of HP elite works right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Club soccer is never designed to teach basic skills, all these programs are setup to fill in that gap.

Club neutral means all clubs are welcome, no clubs are advocated for by the staff or favored, and likely that no kit for youth clubs are allowed.

You do know where the owner of HP elite works right?

Where?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Club soccer is never designed to teach basic skills, all these programs are setup to fill in that gap.

Club neutral means all clubs are welcome, no clubs are advocated for by the staff or favored, and likely that no kit for youth clubs are allowed.

You do know where the owner of HP elite works right?

Where?

A sitting director at Valor, VDA, and PWSI. Conflict of interest? Nah, money over everything. #merica

[Anonymous]

Whats his name?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Club soccer is never designed to teach basic skills, all these programs are setup to fill in that gap.

Club neutral means all clubs are welcome, no clubs are advocated for by the staff or favored, and likely that no kit for youth clubs are allowed.

You do know where the owner of HP elite works right?

Where?

A sitting director at Valor, VDA, and PWSI. Conflict of interest? Nah, money over everything. #merica

Not Valor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Club soccer is never designed to teach basic skills, all these programs are setup to fill in that gap.

Club neutral means all clubs are welcome, no clubs are advocated for by the staff or favored, and likely that no kit for youth clubs are allowed.

You do know where the owner of HP elite works right?

Where?

A sitting director at Valor, VDA, and PWSI. Conflict of interest? Nah, money over everything. #merica

Wait until you find out which clubs have directors on board who are also talent scouts for US Soccer. You can wield a lot of power when you can influence who gets invited where when trying to bring players to your program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Club soccer is never designed to teach basic skills, all these programs are setup to fill in that gap.

Club neutral means all clubs are welcome, no clubs are advocated for by the staff or favored, and likely that no kit for youth clubs are allowed.

You do know where the owner of HP elite works right?

Where?

A sitting director at Valor, VDA, and PWSI. Conflict of interest? Nah, money over everything. #merica

Wait until you find out which clubs have directors on board who are also talent scouts for US Soccer. You can wield a lot of power when you can influence who gets invited where when trying to bring players to your program.

Who? Corruption needs to end