How are you supposed to get into college for engineering now?

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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


Go to a less selective school for engineering. Problem solved.


One thing about engineering is that there are plenty of less selective schools where you can get an excellentr engineering education.


Non-engineer here. I was under the impression it does not matter much where you go for engineering as long as it it ABET accredited. Is that true?


Depends on engineering. I recruit BS engineers. Some schools don't do enough math and physics for EE and computer engineering. Some aerospace programs are not rigorous enough in my opinion as well. Purdue is amazing so are UMD, Michigan and many others. You have to look at the requirements for the major and how much math there is and also what the options are for 400 levels as in some schools there are easy senior project courses but challenging one in others.


Please please please give up some suggestion for good engineering schools that are realistic to get into!
I would also love suggestions on college counselors that know engineering. It’s just really hard for us non-engineer parents to know what to suggest to our kids.

Mines has a reputation for being easy to get into but tough to get through.
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


Go to a less selective school for engineering. Problem solved.


One thing about engineering is that there are plenty of less selective schools where you can get an excellentr engineering education.


Non-engineer here. I was under the impression it does not matter much where you go for engineering as long as it it ABET accredited. Is that true?


Yes. Exceptions do exist - but that is broadly very true.
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


Go to a less selective school for engineering. Problem solved.


One thing about engineering is that there are plenty of less selective schools where you can get an excellentr engineering education.


Non-engineer here. I was under the impression it does not matter much where you go for engineering as long as it it ABET accredited. Is that true?


Depends on engineering. I recruit BS engineers. Some schools don't do enough math and physics for EE and computer engineering. Some aerospace programs are not rigorous enough in my opinion as well. Purdue is amazing so are UMD, Michigan and many others. You have to look at the requirements for the major and how much math there is and also what the options are for 400 levels as in some schools there are easy senior project courses but challenging one in others.


Any recs for lesser known schools?


I don’t know if it’s really lesser known, but Delaware is terrific
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


Go to a less selective school for engineering. Problem solved.


One thing about engineering is that there are plenty of less selective schools where you can get an excellentr engineering education.


Non-engineer here. I was under the impression it does not matter much where you go for engineering as long as it it ABET accredited. Is that true?


Depends on engineering. I recruit BS engineers. Some schools don't do enough math and physics for EE and computer engineering. Some aerospace programs are not rigorous enough in my opinion as well. Purdue is amazing so are UMD, Michigan and many others. You have to look at the requirements for the major and how much math there is and also what the options are for 400 levels as in some schools there are easy senior project courses but challenging one in others.


Please please please give up some suggestion for good engineering schools that are realistic to get into!
I would also love suggestions on college counselors that know engineering. It’s just really hard for us non-engineer parents to know what to suggest to our kids.


Hiring manager here. I am limiting my comments to local public E Schools where new grads we have hired worked out well. Other options surely exist in private or other states that we randomly have not encountered yet.

GMU is solid for EE, CompE, and CS. Great job prospects from GMU because school has great FAANG and other tech company connections. If at GMU, highly recommend living in dorms on campus at least for Freshman year.

UMBC and CNU and ODU and VCU also are good at least for EE and CompE. No experience with CS from any of these. These tend to be a bit sink-or-swim, so students need to self-advocate, go to office hours for help, attempt homework early, and so on.

Also, most E School students do not have as much free time as most other students. E students anywhere really need to focus on academics. I only took free time on Fri night, Sat night, and Sunday morning. Others might have had more free time, but not many had a lot more free time.
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


I forget where I saw this (I'm an alum so get various emails) but, if I recall, Purdue had announced they were going to pare back acceptances this year because of over-enrollment last year. They have had space issues
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WPI
RPI
RIT

All are fairly accessible. I didn't know what this obsession with applying to other states' flagships is or where it comes from, but there are many options for engineering.
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Anonymous wrote:Step One: Stop underestimating the value (and selectivity) of schools other than "Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan."


+1. There are a LOT of other good engineering programs out there.
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


Go to a less selective school for engineering. Problem solved.


One thing about engineering is that there are plenty of less selective schools where you can get an excellentr engineering education.


Non-engineer here. I was under the impression it does not matter much where you go for engineering as long as it it ABET accredited. Is that true?


Depends on engineering. I recruit BS engineers. Some schools don't do enough math and physics for EE and computer engineering. Some aerospace programs are not rigorous enough in my opinion as well. Purdue is amazing so are UMD, Michigan and many others. You have to look at the requirements for the major and how much math there is and also what the options are for 400 levels as in some schools there are easy senior project courses but challenging one in others.


Please please please give up some suggestion for good engineering schools that are realistic to get into!
I would also love suggestions on college counselors that know engineering. It’s just really hard for us non-engineer parents to know what to suggest to our kids.


DP. University of Dayton.
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Anonymous wrote:WPI
RPI
RIT

All are fairly accessible. I didn't know what this obsession with applying to other states' flagships is or where it comes from, but there are many options for engineering.


These are good ones. Would add

U of Cincinnati
Stevens Institute of Technology
Illinois Institute of Technology
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How is Clemson Engineering?
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


Just stoop

My kid had none of those and got into MIT

And for gods sake engineers can come for a ton of schools you fools pay OOS tuition for what?
Now your going to send a kid to Indiana lol your kid doesn’t deserve college

Egal scout omg really ?

Didn’t you hear proud boys and oath keepers are recruiting and starting Boy Scout troops ?. Yes fact


your kid is obviously first in their family to go to college
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


I forget where I saw this (I'm an alum so get various emails) but, if I recall, Purdue had announced they were going to pare back acceptances this year because of over-enrollment last year. They have had space issues


https://fox59.com/news/purdue-university-aiming-to-significantly-lower-admissions-rate-citing-historic-enrollment-housing-strain/

Purdue University President Mung Chiang explained in a social media post that the fall 2024 undergraduate admissions rate was the lowest in school history, aiming for 300 fewer freshmen to enroll than the typical target number. However, 1,600 additional high school seniors unexpectedly committed to Purdue.

“Next year, new dorms approved last year will complete construction. And we will significantly further reduce the admissions rate, simply because housing and city capacities don’t grow as fast as demand for Purdue education,” Chiang said over social media. “But now, in addition to the hard work by many colleagues in securing many more beds throughout town as a first-resort answer since late May, we must further refine housing solutions to all Boilermaker students this Fall: new ones as well as returning students. All units at the university are working extra hard today, to come up with a better and the best answer.”
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.

Unless they are your own or a guidance counselor, how do you cone across this information for multiple kids?
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Anonymous wrote:Purdue EA decisions recently came out, and it was shocking how selective they were. I seen kids with straight As, a 1570+ SAT, and strong extracurriculars in research, building model rockets, Eagle Scout, varsity team captains, and more who got denied. Not even deferred. Just flat out denied. It is just so frustrating that here in NOVA, just getting into these extracurriculars and being top of the class is ridiculously hard. Yet, many of these stop students can't get even get into Purdue. I honestly don't know what Ivy Leagues or schools like Berkeley and Michigan are looking for.


Go to a less selective school for engineering. Problem solved.


One thing about engineering is that there are plenty of less selective schools where you can get an excellentr engineering education.


Non-engineer here. I was under the impression it does not matter much where you go for engineering as long as it it ABET accredited. Is that true?


Bingo!
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