Battery Kemble Dog Park?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:but let me guess OP, you are a cyclist who feels entitled to regularly break traffic laws, no?

You raise an interesting point. If the OP drives and if they, like almost every driver in DC, exceed the speed limit by 5-10 mph, habitually roll through stop signs, and run yellow lights even when they could safely stop, would OP be a hypocrite? And if you do these things as a driver, are you a hypocrite for calling out cyclists who “regularly break traffic laws”?

[Anonymous]

I get that it's annoying but Battery Kemble has been a de facto off-leash dog park for at least the 20 years I've been taking my dog there and likely much longer. There is essentially 0% chance that this is going to change for many reasons, not the least among them that the entitled off-leash walkers are among the richest, most powerful, and influential residents of the city.

My advice to you is don't go there if you don't like it, and learn to let things go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get that it's annoying but Battery Kemble has been a de facto off-leash dog park for at least the 20 years I've been taking my dog there and likely much longer. There is essentially 0% chance that this is going to change for many reasons, not the least among them that the entitled off-leash walkers are among the richest, most powerful, and influential residents of the city.

My advice to you is don't go there if you don't like it, and learn to let things go.

EXACTLY

if you don't like it, go to Glover Park down the street

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get that it's annoying but Battery Kemble has been a de facto off-leash dog park for at least the 20 years I've been taking my dog there and likely much longer. There is essentially 0% chance that this is going to change for many reasons, not the least among them that the entitled off-leash walkers are among the richest, most powerful, and influential residents of the city.

My advice to you is don't go there if you don't like it, and learn to let things go.

You are disregarding a few relevant considerations.

NPS installed new signage a year or two ago that makes the prohibition on unleashed dogs - and the associated penalties - much clearer than it was before.

NPS did not need to incur the cost and hassle of designing and installing those signs and would have done so if they were OK with it being a “de facto” dog park. Claiming that it is OK to walk unleashed dogs there is about as dumb as claiming that people should shoplift because there aren’t cops standing outside every store waiting to shoot those who don’t pay.

It’s an open question whether the Park Police is enforcing the law. The word is that they are just letting dog owners off with warnings. I have no first hand evidence that this is true.

But I do know that there are folk in the community - rich, entitled, influential folk too, I’d post - pressuring NPS to crack down on the problem. There have been a number of people and (leashed) dogs bitten by unleashed dogs over the past few years and the only way to stop this from happening is for the Park Police to make a point of handing out fines to offenders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that it's annoying but Battery Kemble has been a de facto off-leash dog park for at least the 20 years I've been taking my dog there and likely much longer. There is essentially 0% chance that this is going to change for many reasons, not the least among them that the entitled off-leash walkers are among the richest, most powerful, and influential residents of the city.

My advice to you is don't go there if you don't like it, and learn to let things go.

EXACTLY

if you don't like it, go to Glover Park down the street

Better yet, the rich entitled DINKWADs who want to let Fido run free can leave the national park alone and find their way to the nearby Palisades Trolley Trail where there are zero requirements to leash pets.

Or they can buy a bigger yard.

And they can also shut up about every other type of law-breaking activity in their community and the city at large.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that it's annoying but Battery Kemble has been a de facto off-leash dog park for at least the 20 years I've been taking my dog there and likely much longer. There is essentially 0% chance that this is going to change for many reasons, not the least among them that the entitled off-leash walkers are among the richest, most powerful, and influential residents of the city.

My advice to you is don't go there if you don't like it, and learn to let things go.

EXACTLY

if you don't like it, go to Glover Park down the street

Better yet, the rich entitled DINKWADs who want to let Fido run free can leave the national park alone and find their way to the nearby Palisades Trolley Trail where there are zero requirements to leash pets.

Or they can buy a bigger yard.

And they can also shut up about every other type of law-breaking activity in their community and the city at large.

If the city is going to allow public drug use and rampant retail and auto theft, then Fido gonna Fido. We ALL get to break the rules then.

[Anonymous]

Take photos of the off leash dogs and owners and send them to the US Park Police with locations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that it's annoying but Battery Kemble has been a de facto off-leash dog park for at least the 20 years I've been taking my dog there and likely much longer. There is essentially 0% chance that this is going to change for many reasons, not the least among them that the entitled off-leash walkers are among the richest, most powerful, and influential residents of the city.

My advice to you is don't go there if you don't like it, and learn to let things go.

You are disregarding a few relevant considerations.

NPS installed new signage a year or two ago that makes the prohibition on unleashed dogs - and the associated penalties - much clearer than it was before.

NPS did not need to incur the cost and hassle of designing and installing those signs and would have done so if they were OK with it being a “de facto” dog park. Claiming that it is OK to walk unleashed dogs there is about as dumb as claiming that people should shoplift because there aren’t cops standing outside every store waiting to shoot those who don’t pay.

It’s an open question whether the Park Police is enforcing the law. The word is that they are just letting dog owners off with warnings. I have no first hand evidence that this is true.

But I do know that there are folk in the community - rich, entitled, influential folk too, I’d post - pressuring NPS to crack down on the problem. There have been a number of people and (leashed) dogs bitten by unleashed dogs over the past few years and the only way to stop this from happening is for the Park Police to make a point of handing out fines to offenders.

There are DC-funded, fenced dog parks, including one behind the police station near McLean Gardens. Folks can take their Fidos there.

[Anonymous]

Use pepper spray on off leash dogs. Their owners will leash them and beat a hasty retreat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Use pepper spray on off leash dogs. Their owners will leash them and beat a hasty retreat.

Won’t be the only thing they beat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Take photos of the off leash dogs and owners and send them to the US Park Police with locations.

Waste of time; this is not an effective way to get a police response. Just call the police every time you observe it happening. If you're scared of being called a Karen, just go across the street to make the call and ask to remain anonymous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that it's annoying but Battery Kemble has been a de facto off-leash dog park for at least the 20 years I've been taking my dog there and likely much longer. There is essentially 0% chance that this is going to change for many reasons, not the least among them that the entitled off-leash walkers are among the richest, most powerful, and influential residents of the city.

My advice to you is don't go there if you don't like it, and learn to let things go.

You are disregarding a few relevant considerations.

NPS installed new signage a year or two ago that makes the prohibition on unleashed dogs - and the associated penalties - much clearer than it was before.

NPS did not need to incur the cost and hassle of designing and installing those signs and would have done so if they were OK with it being a “de facto” dog park. Claiming that it is OK to walk unleashed dogs there is about as dumb as claiming that people should shoplift because there aren’t cops standing outside every store waiting to shoot those who don’t pay.

It’s an open question whether the Park Police is enforcing the law. The word is that they are just letting dog owners off with warnings. I have no first hand evidence that this is true.

But I do know that there are folk in the community - rich, entitled, influential folk too, I’d post - pressuring NPS to crack down on the problem. There have been a number of people and (leashed) dogs bitten by unleashed dogs over the past few years and the only way to stop this from happening is for the Park Police to make a point of handing out fines to offenders.

There are DC-funded, fenced dog parks, including one behind the police station near McLean Gardens. Folks can take their Fidos there.

Dog owners don't actually use dog parks, because then they can't get off on their transgressions. Its not about Fido running free, its about them being too important for little people rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it quite annoying too. You really have to be on the lookout for dog poop when picnicking there or walking the hill with kids.

Equally annoying are your kids screaming, tantrums and taking up the path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that it's annoying but Battery Kemble has been a de facto off-leash dog park for at least the 20 years I've been taking my dog there and likely much longer. There is essentially 0% chance that this is going to change for many reasons, not the least among them that the entitled off-leash walkers are among the richest, most powerful, and influential residents of the city.

My advice to you is don't go there if you don't like it, and learn to let things go.

You are disregarding a few relevant considerations.

NPS installed new signage a year or two ago that makes the prohibition on unleashed dogs - and the associated penalties - much clearer than it was before.

NPS did not need to incur the cost and hassle of designing and installing those signs and would have done so if they were OK with it being a “de facto” dog park. Claiming that it is OK to walk unleashed dogs there is about as dumb as claiming that people should shoplift because there aren’t cops standing outside every store waiting to shoot those who don’t pay.

It’s an open question whether the Park Police is enforcing the law. The word is that they are just letting dog owners off with warnings. I have no first hand evidence that this is true.

But I do know that there are folk in the community - rich, entitled, influential folk too, I’d post - pressuring NPS to crack down on the problem. There have been a number of people and (leashed) dogs bitten by unleashed dogs over the past few years and the only way to stop this from happening is for the Park Police to make a point of handing out fines to offenders.

There are DC-funded, fenced dog parks, including one behind the police station near McLean Gardens. Folks can take their Fidos there.

Dog owners don't actually use dog parks, because then they can't get off on their transgressions. Its not about Fido running free, its about them being too important for little people rules.

There are not enough dog parks.

[Anonymous]

I was at battery kemble this AM and was shocked by the amount of trash left behind by sledders, and the damage to the hill...all the grass in any of the exposed places is gone

there was a huge pile of broken sleds, would have been easy for the sledders to carry out if they care one iota about the park

this is a national park, and yet people are whinging about dogs off leash when sledders come in and leave piles of trash, damage the environment, and every year send at least one person to the hospital?