What colleges are in Boston College's tier group?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Umiami
NYU
Northeastern
BU
Fordham
Villanova
Holy Cross

I think Emory, ND, Georgetown are a different tier

Maybe or maybe not academically- but BC seems just as hard to get in. I would put it at the low end of the Emory ND Georgetown tier. BC way tougher than any of the schools above.

Not the same based on our high school Scoir scatterplots. RD into BC typically get in to William and Mary Out of state, some get into Wake some do not, Wake is a touch harder, Emory and GTown and Notre Dame are all another notch harder for RD. Our school sends 8-10% unhooked to T20s. BC in RD is a common likely for the top 10% as is Wake, those two would be matches for the students in the top 1/3 but not the top 10%, assuming equal rigor and all that.
Holy Cross, Nova, Fordham are much easuer than BC and are for bottom-half kids but also used as backups for the kids around top 1/3 in case they do not get into T30-40 range.
Just over 10% of the high school takes BC calc in 11th and Vector/Linear in 12th, as a normal track. AP physics C is common in 11th for about 20% of the class.AP language or Lit is done in 10th by more than half the school. We do college level English semesters after that. Its a pretty rigorous school but we have a lot who get in to Boston College in RD.

BC is much harder to get into than Wake. Not even close. Agree it’s slightly easier vs ND Georgetown and Tufts.

BC and Wake are alike as two colleges can be. Historically Wake has been rated a tier higher, before the ratings criteria change in 2023.p, by IS News. I’d put Tufts, Emory USC, UCLAand UVA in this group as well.

[Anonymous]

Weird question: our family is very Catholic but we are really liberal and hate the vibe of most Catholic schools. Crucifixes in the classroom but more focused on football and lacrosse and what car you park in the lot. Then there are the other Catholic schools that are like Opus Dei training grounds for Federalist Society members to raise their kids as if the New Deal was Stalinism.

Wife went to Catholic school through eighth grade but it was really low key. I get the impression that there’s CUA for ideological Catholics and maybe one or two others like it. Then ND, BC, for the sports obsessed Catholic sub-WASP-elites.

Are there any others for like, Catholics who want a place where their kid might be able to go to Mass on campus without becoming culture warriors or campuses where there’s more to being young male and Catholic than just jock culture?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BU, Tufts, Villanova, NYU

No

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umiami
NYU
Northeastern
BU
Fordham
Villanova
Holy Cross

I think Emory, ND, Georgetown are a different tier

I would add Tulane

No Tulane moved down to 73 on the ranking list

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird question: our family is very Catholic but we are really liberal and hate the vibe of most Catholic schools. Crucifixes in the classroom but more focused on football and lacrosse and what car you park in the lot. Then there are the other Catholic schools that are like Opus Dei training grounds for Federalist Society members to raise their kids as if the New Deal was Stalinism.

Wife went to Catholic school through eighth grade but it was really low key. I get the impression that there’s CUA for ideological Catholics and maybe one or two others like it. Then ND, BC, for the sports obsessed Catholic sub-WASP-elites.

Are there any others for like, Catholics who want a place where their kid might be able to go to Mass on campus without becoming culture warriors or campuses where there’s more to being young male and Catholic than just jock culture?

Any jesuit school without D1 sports

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umiami
NYU
Northeastern
BU
Fordham
Villanova
Holy Cross

I think Emory, ND, Georgetown are a different tier

I would add Tulane

No Tulane moved down to 73 on the ranking list

And why is that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BC has several factors going for it that are hard to match - a beautiful campus, rah rah / big sports atmosphere, safe location near a major urban center with lots of other students, and mid-size university with professional schools.

Add to those factors the fact that there are two populations for whom BC is a pinnacle - Catholics and many other New Englanders. There's a Catholic school pipeline that's been around forever. And even for non-Catholics a BC degree is perceived as an attractive pathway to UMC life in the area. Overstating just slightly, BC can provide more powerful networking in the greater Boston/New England than Harvard. Sports has helped take that reputation national. I'm not a BC grad (from a Holy Cross family who hated BC) but I can see how it's become so hot.

Now Georgetown has all this and more prestige; ND has more prestige but a less desirable area.

Personally I think BU is an undervalued alternative, although it's also gotten much more competitive. But there's a tendency to be snotty about the lack of a campus feel (even though it's in a great area of the actual city.)

Whoever is saying Wake is a harder admit is out of their mind.

All this!

[Anonymous]

Tulane, Villanova and Wake Forest are not in same league as BC.
Notre Dame and Georgetown and Tufts are together and then a slight bit down to BC and then a slight bit down to NYU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UMiami is the non-Jesuit BC of the South.

Agreed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird question: our family is very Catholic but we are really liberal and hate the vibe of most Catholic schools. Crucifixes in the classroom but more focused on football and lacrosse and what car you park in the lot. Then there are the other Catholic schools that are like Opus Dei training grounds for Federalist Society members to raise their kids as if the New Deal was Stalinism.

Wife went to Catholic school through eighth grade but it was really low key. I get the impression that there’s CUA for ideological Catholics and maybe one or two others like it. Then ND, BC, for the sports obsessed Catholic sub-WASP-elites.

Are there any others for like, Catholics who want a place where their kid might be able to go to Mass on campus without becoming culture warriors or campuses where there’s more to being young male and Catholic than just jock culture?

Well, Georgetown, right? I think any Jesuit school really. There are a lot of sports obsessed kids at BC and HC but also plenty that aren't that way. Some of the Opus Dei training grounds families now go to Notre Dame and definitely University of Dallas but I think they all stay away from the Jesuit schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird question: our family is very Catholic but we are really liberal and hate the vibe of most Catholic schools. Crucifixes in the classroom but more focused on football and lacrosse and what car you park in the lot. Then there are the other Catholic schools that are like Opus Dei training grounds for Federalist Society members to raise their kids as if the New Deal was Stalinism.

Wife went to Catholic school through eighth grade but it was really low key. I get the impression that there’s CUA for ideological Catholics and maybe one or two others like it. Then ND, BC, for the sports obsessed Catholic sub-WASP-elites.

Are there any others for like, Catholics who want a place where their kid might be able to go to Mass on campus without becoming culture warriors or campuses where there’s more to being young male and Catholic than just jock culture?

Any jesuit school without D1 sports

Aren't most of them at least D1 basketball?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird question: our family is very Catholic but we are really liberal and hate the vibe of most Catholic schools. Crucifixes in the classroom but more focused on football and lacrosse and what car you park in the lot. Then there are the other Catholic schools that are like Opus Dei training grounds for Federalist Society members to raise their kids as if the New Deal was Stalinism.

Wife went to Catholic school through eighth grade but it was really low key. I get the impression that there’s CUA for ideological Catholics and maybe one or two others like it. Then ND, BC, for the sports obsessed Catholic sub-WASP-elites.

Are there any others for like, Catholics who want a place where their kid might be able to go to Mass on campus without becoming culture warriors or campuses where there’s more to being young male and Catholic than just jock culture?

I think BC fits the Catholic jock stereotype less than, say, Villanova, largely because of the Jesuit connection. Fordham and Holy Cross are both fairly liberal Catholic schools. Georgetown obviously too but it has the least “Catholic” feel of all the Catholic colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The University of Virginia is in the same tier group as Boston College.

This

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UMiami is the non-Jesuit BC of the South.

This made me chuckle.
So random!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tulane, Villanova and Wake Forest are not in same league as BC.
Notre Dame and Georgetown and Tufts are together and then a slight bit down to BC and then a slight bit down to NYU.

Well, we know who the BC booster is. WF ranked a tier above BC for 25 of the past 27 years. BC yield protects in RD, WF does not. Notre Dame and Georgetown both a tier above BC.