Penn ED

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an alum. None of the kids of the classmates with whom I’m in touch have been accepted. Mine was rejected ED1. Now attends another Ivy. I don’t think there’s much legacy preference.

Did you donate or get involved with alumni activities at all? I think that helps to a certain extent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an alum. None of the kids of the classmates with whom I’m in touch have been accepted. Mine was rejected ED1. Now attends another Ivy. I don’t think there’s much legacy preference.

Did you donate or get involved with alumni activities at all? I think that helps to a certain extent.

Not if they’ve weakened the preference.

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Anyone in??

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When did people stop calling it UPenn and start calling it Penn? Or was it always like that for those in the know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn mom with legacy kid there now - she and nearly all her Penn legacy classmates were deferred then accepted. It’s sort of the MO for Whitney Soule. My guess is she knows these kids will attend no matter what, and uses ED to grab kids who might go elsewhere in RD. GL!

Well, Christ! Way to make the kids suffer and stress for over 3 more months on if they will actually be accepted...and now have to crank out additional applications.

When something like that happened to my kid, it pissed him off so much that he applied to other Ivies/T10s, got in RD and went there instead.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s an article from the Daily Pennsylvanian on the wording change. http://www.thedp.com/article/2023/03/penn-legacy-admissions-policy-changes-university

This is Penn’s current legacy policy/statement:

“We appreciate that attending Penn is a tradition for many families. The Admissions Office identifies legacy applicants based on the information provided in a student’s application and defines “legacy” as being either a child or grandchild of alumni. Legacies who apply to Penn—like all applicants—receive thorough consideration in the application process."

It’s clear from this statement that Penn still considers legacy status in its admissions process. What is the controversy?

Read the article, it’s interpreted as downgrading the status of legacy at Penn.

Whose interpretation? The student who wrote the article? If Penn was no longer considering legacy status, it would just say so—similar to what JHU and Amherst have done. Stop assuming.

Hopkins stopped giving a legacy preference for several years before they announced it.

Nearly a decade ago, Johns Hopkins University, the powerhouse research university located in Baltimore, Maryland, began a quiet experiment: It started to eliminate “legacy preference”—a special boost it gave to the children, grandchildren and siblings of alumni–from its undergraduate admissions process. The move was so sensitive, the school didn’t make the change public until 2020. Last fall, 1.8% of Johns Hopkins’s incoming freshmen were children of alumni, down from 8.5% in 2013.

Even for the legacy with stats well above and beyond the schools 75%....and if they were caucasian and male and christian, an especially maligned 'privileged' group they also planned to keep doing a 'quiet experiment' taking away admission until the email went public that is.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When did people stop calling it UPenn and start calling it Penn? Or was it always like that for those in the know?

UPenn feels new to me, or only for people who may confuse it with Penn State. I’m a ‘95 grad and say “Penn”.

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Anonymous wrote:When did people stop calling it UPenn and start calling it Penn? Or was it always like that for those in the know?

UPenn feels new to me, or only for people who may confuse it with Penn State. I’m a ‘95 grad and say “Penn”.

Agree. I went in the 90s and only say Penn. My teenage daughters and all their friends only say UPenn.

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Anonymous wrote:When did people stop calling it UPenn and start calling it Penn? Or was it always like that for those in the know?

UPenn feels new to me, or only for people who may confuse it with Penn State. I’m a ‘95 grad and say “Penn”.

Agree. I went in the 90s and only say Penn. My teenage daughters and all their friends only say UPenn.

Students currently at Penn say Penn. It is just applicants who are not in the know who call it UPenn

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Anyone get in?

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a friend's kid got in. will not share stats, but ECs, grades, rigor, school quality, SAT - it was all - the most exemplary kid I know. The process worked here.

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My DC got in.

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Anonymous wrote:When did people stop calling it UPenn and start calling it Penn? Or was it always like that for those in the know?

UPenn feels new to me, or only for people who may confuse it with Penn State. I’m a ‘95 grad and say “Penn”.

Agree. I went in the 90s and only say Penn. My teenage daughters and all their friends only say UPenn.

This exactly.
Students currently at Penn say Penn. It is just applicants who are not in the know who call it UPenn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn mom with legacy kid there now - she and nearly all her Penn legacy classmates were deferred then accepted. It’s sort of the MO for Whitney Soule. My guess is she knows these kids will attend no matter what, and uses ED to grab kids who might go elsewhere in RD. GL!

Actually, that is a smart move on her part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Penn mom with legacy kid there now - she and nearly all her Penn legacy classmates were deferred then accepted. It’s sort of the MO for Whitney Soule. My guess is she knows these kids will attend no matter what, and uses ED to grab kids who might go elsewhere in RD. GL!

Actually, that is a smart move on her part.

How is that smart? If the kids are accepted in the RD round, wouldn't the total % accepted students and the yield be the same? Do schools want to keep the % accepted early artificially low? Seems there'd be an incentive to do the opposite: a bigger spread btw ED and RD encourages applicants to commit to ED . . . .