Why do all the florida mom facebook groups seem obsessed with avoiding vaccines

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Anonymous wrote:What get's me the most is that all the illegal immigrants in our schools who have not been subjected to the vaccine schedule my DC had to succumb to, how in the world am I supposed to trust anything the government says? I can't at this point, logically, I just can't, I have to stop and question.

What the hell are you talking about. I worked in a school with a high immigration population and those children absolutely had to have proof of vaccinations. Don’t worry PP, “those children” will not infect your precious child with their cooties.

The things these people believe, while using the word sheeple, are stunning.

The issue is that we, who understand and follow science, will not have kids maimed by polio. I worry for those that will.

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Low taxes = low teachers' salaries = crap schools = people who can't recognize facts

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It is a reaction to the poor overall health in our country. As many as 1/3 of kids have chronic disease. Our rates of autoimmune disease are skyrocketing. People want to opt out of the entire American pipeline of sickness and misery and are distrustful of every component. I get the fear if not the decisions it leads to. But I think it would help if people acknowledged that there is real cause for alarm with the worsening health of our kids and general population. And yes my kids have all their shots!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a reaction to the poor overall health in our country. As many as 1/3 of kids have chronic disease. Our rates of autoimmune disease are skyrocketing. People want to opt out of the entire American pipeline of sickness and misery and are distrustful of every component. I get the fear if not the decisions it leads to. But I think it would help if people acknowledged that there is real cause for alarm with the worsening health of our kids and general population. And yes my kids have all their shots!

You give people way too much credit. And please give a source that says 1/3 of kids have a chronic disease.

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Anonymous wrote:I do think Covid and the vaccine became a leading cause of this. People became distrustful of the CDC and government and Covid. And with the increasing numbers of people who spoke out loudly against the Covid vaccine and CDC, more and more people started to listen and believe them. And a lot of them probably fell into the rabbit hole of the anti vaccine movement.

No, you just weren't aware of the growing antivax sentiment. It predates covid by 5+ years. We were having measles outbreaks everywhere in 2013-2014. It coincided with a rise in home births, interest in raw milk, unschooling, etc. Fringe groups on both right and left are hung up on what is "natural" - or rather, their idealized fake idea of what pre-industrial society was like.

+1 This predates Covid. I’m old enough to remember chicken pox parties.

[Anonymous]

Beware parents--it's deadly when people with no health care expertise think they know a lot more than they do and don't listen to the actual doctors. Just because you're in Florida doesn't mean your kids can't die.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/25/opinion/rfk-jr-vaccines-samoa-measles.html

In November 2019, when an epidemic of measles was killing children and babies in Samoa, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — who in recent days became Donald Trump’s pick to lead the department of Health and Human Services — sent the prime minister of Samoa a four-page letter. In it, he suggested the measles vaccine itself may have caused the outbreak.

He claimed that the vaccine might have “failed to produce antibodies” in vaccinated mothers sufficient to provide infants with immunity, that it perhaps provoked “the evolution of more virulent measles strains” and that children who received the vaccine may have inadvertently spread the virus to other children. “Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of any assistance,” he added, writing in his role as the chairman of Children’s Health Defense, an anti-vaccine group.

At the time of his letter, 16 people, many of them younger than 2, were already reported dead. Measles, which is among the most contagious diseases, can sometimes lead to brain swelling, pneumonia and death. For months, families grieved over heartbreaking little coffins, until a door-to-door vaccination campaign brought the calamity to a close. The final number of fatalities topped 80.

I was in Samoa during that outbreak as part of my more than 16 years of reporting on the anti-vaccine movement. The cause of the outbreak was not the vaccine, but most likely an infected traveler who brought the virus from New Zealand, which that year had had the biggest measles outbreaks in decades, especially among that country’s Indigenous and Pacific Islander communities. Migration and poverty were likely factors in a sudden spread of measles in Samoa and New Zealand. But, as an editorial in The New Zealand Medical Journal reported, so too was a factor that Mr. Kennedy specializes in: “increasing circulation of misinformation leading to distrust and reduced vaccination uptake.” Samoa’s vaccination rates had fallen to fewer than a third of eligible 1-year-olds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think Covid and the vaccine became a leading cause of this. People became distrustful of the CDC and government and Covid. And with the increasing numbers of people who spoke out loudly against the Covid vaccine and CDC, more and more people started to listen and believe them. And a lot of them probably fell into the rabbit hole of the anti vaccine movement.

Ok.....so fine, don't trust the covid vaccine. But polio has been eradicated due to the vaccine. Why on earth would anyone want to push back against that???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is a reaction to the poor overall health in our country. As many as 1/3 of kids have chronic disease. Our rates of autoimmune disease are skyrocketing. People want to opt out of the entire American pipeline of sickness and misery and are distrustful of every component. I get the fear if not the decisions it leads to. But I think it would help if people acknowledged that there is real cause for alarm with the worsening health of our kids and general population. And yes my kids have all their shots!

But, they will opt out of vaccines and take their kids to mcdonalds and let them eat takis. They will be at risk for disease and sick as ever.

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I think you are trolling. Florida school districts require proof of vaccination.

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What’s a mom facebook group? We don’t have those in Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are trolling. Florida school districts require proof of vaccination.

Correct. Fl resident. Also, none of the groups I'm in are talking anti-vax. I'm sure there are some folks , just like everywhere. My pediatrician will exit you if you do not vaccinate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What get's me the most is that all the illegal immigrants in our schools who have not been subjected to the vaccine schedule my DC had to succumb to, how in the world am I supposed to trust anything the government says? I can't at this point, logically, I just can't, I have to stop and question.

You are talking crazy talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:and are we all going to get mumps and measles from their kids??
I do not understand what they think is going to happen if their kids get vaccinated.
I had to take a friend to the ER once for mumps and you do NOT WANT it.

What I find so funny about this is in the early 2000s there was the same conversations going on but back then it was very liberal, natural organic moms who were avoiding them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is they're almost certainly vaccinated themselves. It's the kids who will suffer.

My Dad's a pediatrician and it's a constant fight.

Florida is attracting a certain type of person from other states who want to live free of taxes and science. It's incredibly sad, because the parents are idiots and the innocent kids will pay the price. But now that we have RFK Jr running policy, make sure your kids get their childhood vaccines before he makes it difficult.

Florida wasn't this dumb when I grew up here in the 1990s. It wasn't smart, but MAGA has made it far worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and are we all going to get mumps and measles from their kids??
I do not understand what they think is going to happen if their kids get vaccinated.
I had to take a friend to the ER once for mumps and you do NOT WANT it.

What I find so funny about this is in the early 2000s there was the same conversations going on but back then it was very liberal, natural organic moms who were avoiding them

Funny how they flipped on a dime the minute covid rolled out. It looked like a cult, not allowed to question anything, or you’re OUT.