The People You Work With

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Anonymous wrote:How enlightened are they? How educated? How worldly? I'm struggling to find the right word, but are they familiar with quasi exotic things?

We were all just talking about Christmas being two weeks away and how it has snuck up on us. Somebody said 'what's your meal going to be this year'? The new guy said Bouillabaisse. Literally three quarters of my office didn't know what it was.

And then I realized I was working with people way less cultured than myself.

Bouillabaisse? Sounds like terrorist soup to me

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Anonymous wrote:How enlightened are they? How educated? How worldly? I'm struggling to find the right word, but are they familiar with quasi exotic things?

We were all just talking about Christmas being two weeks away and how it has snuck up on us. Somebody said 'what's your meal going to be this year'? The new guy said Bouillabaisse. Literally three quarters of my office didn't know what it was.

And then I realized I was working with people way less cultured than myself.

You must be super old to try and make a troll post using a French recipe as a cultural touch point.

You had to Google it, didn't you?

So you are old then?

So, this hurt your feelings, huh?

Well I answered your question and explained myself, meanwhile you avoid mine. But I would consider therapy as you glide into old age, being “cultured” and judgmental of your peers will hobble and maybe end your career. You should examine why you are searching for a reason to be “better” than them — are you compensating mentally for poor performance or just that they are younger than you? Either way, it will end up with an EEO complaint or similar.

Your entire premise is that 43 is old. Which is not only wrong, but ageist and judgmental in itself.

Stop lashing out and become comfortable with being around perople more cultured than yourself. It doesnt have to be a bad thing. Just man up and admit your weaknesses.

PP who said they were 43 was not OP.

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I've heard of it but don't really know the recipe. The people I work with are not cultured at all but the issues are different than this. I dream of working in a cultured environment but one where there is less judging. Probably doesn't exist.

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Anonymous wrote:How enlightened are they? How educated? How worldly? I'm struggling to find the right word, but are they familiar with quasi exotic things?

We were all just talking about Christmas being two weeks away and how it has snuck up on us. Somebody said 'what's your meal going to be this year'? The new guy said Bouillabaisse. Literally three quarters of my office didn't know what it was.

And then I realized I was working with people way less cultured than myself.

You must be super old to try and make a troll post using a French recipe as a cultural touch point.

I'm 43. And honestly I think of Bouillabaisse as more of a west coast thing than a French thing.

I'm 45 from the west coast and have never had bouillabaisse. I was vaguely aware it was a soup.

People have different cultural touchstones, it doesn't make them "uncultured." Right now I work with a lot of people from NYC. I have had to learn about it, as I know very little. Growing up in the SF Bay Area I can promise you very few people there know or care about NYC and many have never been: no one thinks it's relevant. I'm sure we'd come across as uncultured to someone who does care.

Youre from San Francisco and have never had Bouillabaisse? I find that incredible. It's like being from New Orleans and never having had a Muffuletta

Weird take. I’m from Bay Area too, and never heard it was a thing. It’s not like I weekend at French Laundry.

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Not at work but I am an expat and I joined a group that turned out to all be diplomats from various countries. A pretty diverse group of people but they are extremely cultured and intelligent. They can talk about almost any topic in a really informed way. They are global citizens and are fountains of knowledge. I consider myself reasonably bright but I can't keep up to them physically or intellectually!

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Anonymous wrote:How enlightened are they? How educated? How worldly? I'm struggling to find the right word, but are they familiar with quasi exotic things?

We were all just talking about Christmas being two weeks away and how it has snuck up on us. Somebody said 'what's your meal going to be this year'? The new guy said Bouillabaisse. Literally three quarters of my office didn't know what it was.

And then I realized I was working with people way less cultured than myself.

You must be super old to try and make a troll post using a French recipe as a cultural touch point.

I'm 43. And honestly I think of Bouillabaisse as more of a west coast thing than a French thing.

I'm 45 from the west coast and have never had bouillabaisse. I was vaguely aware it was a soup.

People have different cultural touchstones, it doesn't make them "uncultured." Right now I work with a lot of people from NYC. I have had to learn about it, as I know very little. Growing up in the SF Bay Area I can promise you very few people there know or care about NYC and many have never been: no one thinks it's relevant. I'm sure we'd come across as uncultured to someone who does care.

Youre from San Francisco and have never had Bouillabaisse? I find that incredible. It's like being from New Orleans and never having had a Muffuletta

Weird take. I’m from Bay Area too, and never heard it was a thing. It’s not like I weekend at French Laundry.

San Francisco calls it Cioppino, but it is the same thing.

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There is so much more to being cultured than knowing a rare French dish. For example, I consider people who are humble about what they DON'T know to be the most cultured because they never stop learning. I don't think OP fits that category.

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Bouillabaisse is a word from my childhood and early 20s. I would need to look it up to refresh my memory.

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Anonymous wrote:How enlightened are they? How educated? How worldly? I'm struggling to find the right word, but are they familiar with quasi exotic things?

We were all just talking about Christmas being two weeks away and how it has snuck up on us. Somebody said 'what's your meal going to be this year'? The new guy said Bouillabaisse. Literally three quarters of my office didn't know what it was.

And then I realized I was working with people way less cultured than myself.

You must be super old to try and make a troll post using a French recipe as a cultural touch point.

I'm 43. And honestly I think of Bouillabaisse as more of a west coast thing than a French thing.

I'm 45 from the west coast and have never had bouillabaisse. I was vaguely aware it was a soup.

People have different cultural touchstones, it doesn't make them "uncultured." Right now I work with a lot of people from NYC. I have had to learn about it, as I know very little. Growing up in the SF Bay Area I can promise you very few people there know or care about NYC and many have never been: no one thinks it's relevant. I'm sure we'd come across as uncultured to someone who does care.

Youre from San Francisco and have never had Bouillabaisse? I find that incredible. It's like being from New Orleans and never having had a Muffuletta

Weird take. I’m from Bay Area too, and never heard it was a thing. It’s not like I weekend at French Laundry.

San Francisco calls it Cioppino, but it is the same thing.

Ate bouillabaisse my whole life, but never heard of cioppino until today!

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Now I'm starving.

https://thecozyapron.com/cioppino/

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Anonymous wrote:How enlightened are they? How educated? How worldly? I'm struggling to find the right word, but are they familiar with quasi exotic things?

We were all just talking about Christmas being two weeks away and how it has snuck up on us. Somebody said 'what's your meal going to be this year'? The new guy said Bouillabaisse. Literally three quarters of my office didn't know what it was.

And then I realized I was working with people way less cultured than myself.

You must be super old to try and make a troll post using a French recipe as a cultural touch point.

I'm 43. And honestly I think of Bouillabaisse as more of a west coast thing than a French thing.

I'm 45 from the west coast and have never had bouillabaisse. I was vaguely aware it was a soup.

People have different cultural touchstones, it doesn't make them "uncultured." Right now I work with a lot of people from NYC. I have had to learn about it, as I know very little. Growing up in the SF Bay Area I can promise you very few people there know or care about NYC and many have never been: no one thinks it's relevant. I'm sure we'd come across as uncultured to someone who does care.

Youre from San Francisco and have never had Bouillabaisse? I find that incredible. It's like being from New Orleans and never having had a Muffuletta

Weird take. I’m from Bay Area too, and never heard it was a thing. It’s not like I weekend at French Laundry.

San Francisco calls it Cioppino, but it is the same thing.

SF person here, of course I know cioppino but I thought it was Italian.
I had heard of bouillabaise to know it was French or possibly New Orleans, but didn't know what was in it.
No idea if the two are actually the same, beyond basics.

[Anonymous]

I work in land management so I'm surrounded by people who are educated and cultured in ways that are both similar and different from me. Lots of people who have traveled a lot of the US, done lots of fieldwork, worked with different cultures. Some have PhDs and are worldly in a more "traditional" way. Others are former military and have a totally different knowledge base and cultural background that I think it's valuable in its own right. Not everyone knows what bouillabaise is but they know plenty of stuff I'm not familiar with either.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a very weird example of what it means to be "cultured". You'll need to give better examples if you want us to assess it. Also, "uncultured" is an insanely subjective concept.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:I work in land management so I'm surrounded by people who are educated and cultured in ways that are both similar and different from me. Lots of people who have traveled a lot of the US, done lots of fieldwork, worked with different cultures. Some have PhDs and are worldly in a more "traditional" way. Others are former military and have a totally different knowledge base and cultural background that I think it's valuable in its own right. Not everyone knows what bouillabaise is but they know plenty of stuff I'm not familiar with either.

How do I get into that industry?

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Anonymous wrote:I work in land management so I'm surrounded by people who are educated and cultured in ways that are both similar and different from me. Lots of people who have traveled a lot of the US, done lots of fieldwork, worked with different cultures. Some have PhDs and are worldly in a more "traditional" way. Others are former military and have a totally different knowledge base and cultural background that I think it's valuable in its own right. Not everyone knows what bouillabaise is but they know plenty of stuff I'm not familiar with either.

How do I get into that industry?

Be willing to take a huge pay cut to work for your state, local, or federal government! There's also consulting but it's a different mix of folks and different daily work.