End of the American Century

Anonymous
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In February 1941, Henry Luce, the influential publisher of Time and Life magazines, penned an article heralding the “American Century,” a post-war era in which the United States would apply its newfound standing as the “dominant power in the world” to spread “free economic enterprise” and “the abundant life” around the globe. Luce envisioned the United States as “the principal guarantor of the freedom of the seas” and “the dynamic leader of world trade,” and saw in this future “possibilities of such enormous human progress as to stagger the imagination.”


Donald Trump’s second presidential victory represents a sharp break, and perhaps a permanent one, with the American Century framework.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/06/trump-ends-american-century-00192236

I agree with this article. Europe and Japan have followed our lead and would continue to do so if given a choice. China has clear intentions of over taking the US. Russia is wandering in the wilderness and declining quickly. The US will soon enter trade wars with our friends and strengthen our opponent.

China is projected to surpass the US economy in 10 years. In 20 years people will look back and point to Trump as the end of American century and influence in the world.



I live in Hong Kong. This was a popular sentiment up until about 2021. Since then the economy has been terrible and the demographics are absolutely catastrophic.

https://cdn.cfr.org/sites/default/files/styles/large_s_2x/public/image/2024/08/figure_v2_0.png


They have already peaked, or are so close it won’t matter.





https://www.cfr.org/blog/aging-will-hit-chinas-economy-far-harder-recognized

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-68595450
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
In February 1941, Henry Luce, the influential publisher of Time and Life magazines, penned an article heralding the “American Century,” a post-war era in which the United States would apply its newfound standing as the “dominant power in the world” to spread “free economic enterprise” and “the abundant life” around the globe. Luce envisioned the United States as “the principal guarantor of the freedom of the seas” and “the dynamic leader of world trade,” and saw in this future “possibilities of such enormous human progress as to stagger the imagination.”


Donald Trump’s second presidential victory represents a sharp break, and perhaps a permanent one, with the American Century framework.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/06/trump-ends-american-century-00192236

I agree with this article. Europe and Japan have followed our lead and would continue to do so if given a choice. China has clear intentions of over taking the US. Russia is wandering in the wilderness and declining quickly. The US will soon enter trade wars with our friends and strengthen our opponent.

China is projected to surpass the US economy in 10 years. In 20 years people will look back and point to Trump as the end of American century and influence in the world.



I live in Hong Kong. This was a popular sentiment up until about 2021. Since then the economy has been terrible and the demographics are absolutely catastrophic.

https://cdn.cfr.org/sites/default/files/styles/large_s_2x/public/image/2024/08/figure_v2_0.png


They have already peaked, or are so close it won’t matter.





https://www.cfr.org/blog/aging-will-hit-chinas-economy-far-harder-recognized

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-68595450


The only wildcard with this demographic impact on the economy is whether medical technology will be able to meaningfully slow aging this century. If an effective intervention is discovered that can slow biological aging by 10-20% or more this could significantly mitigate the economic drag from population aging.
Anonymous
That won't matter. Slowing aging or prolonging death just means more people in old folks homes or otherwise generally not contributing to the GDP.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The US seems to be losing influence to China and Russia in various areas. It seems there’s little interest in being involved in Africa and that has been ceded to them. The Chinese are very busy in South America too. Withdrawing from NATO and disregard for other international organizations will erode the US’s influence further.


When America is involved internationally e gent to be involved militarily. Meanwhile Collins is build roads and infrastructure in Africa. And has burn a 24/7 Library in El Salvador. What wins hearted and minds?


Now we have a Chinese propaganda department on a DC mom website. Your English needs some work, the Russian shrills are much better.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Way too early to declare anything.

I’m bullish on America because the competition of this century will not be over commodities or trade but over human capital. Birth rates are falling all over the world and it will upend everything. China has serious problems coming on that front.

For the total mess that the USA is, the USA is the only country in the world that can really take in and integrate immigrants. And we have a nearly two-century head start on the rest or the world in that category.

For as anti immigrant as the mood in the USA currently is, the rest of the world, and the Asian countries in particular, are really poor at immigration.


No it will not be human capital. The coming battle is AI, alternative energy and EVs. I do not see the US leading in any of these.


Lol USA is destroying the world on ai

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That won't matter. Slowing aging or prolonging death just means more people in old folks homes or otherwise generally not contributing to the GDP.


…and it isn’t just how many people have left the workforce. It is about how many people are in their 20s-40s when they are doing their most innovative work.

You can take the same curve as the graph above and shift it 20 years over to see what that looks like.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If it wasn't dead before it will be with four more years of trump.



You also told us back in 2000 that the earth would be uninhabitable by 2025


No one said that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Way too early to declare anything.

I’m bullish on America because the competition of this century will not be over commodities or trade but over human capital. Birth rates are falling all over the world and it will upend everything. China has serious problems coming on that front.

For the total mess that the USA is, the USA is the only country in the world that can really take in and integrate immigrants. And we have a nearly two-century head start on the rest or the world in that category.

For as anti immigrant as the mood in the USA currently is, the rest of the world, and the Asian countries in particular, are really poor at immigration.


I agree with this. America has done well bc of immigration. That is what has made us great.



+1

The biggest prob facing US are internal.

Lobbyists/healthcare/deficit. It's about taking care of each other and having civil peace. It's not how we will compare w rest of the world in terms of marketing, ingenuity, alliances, etc. Housekeeping comes first but alas, we are not faring well here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Way too early to declare anything.

I’m bullish on America because the competition of this century will not be over commodities or trade but over human capital. Birth rates are falling all over the world and it will upend everything. China has serious problems coming on that front.

For the total mess that the USA is, the USA is the only country in the world that can really take in and integrate immigrants. And we have a nearly two-century head start on the rest or the world in that category.

For as anti immigrant as the mood in the USA currently is, the rest of the world, and the Asian countries in particular, are really poor at immigration.


I agree with this. America has done well bc of immigration. That is what has made us great.



+1

The biggest prob facing US are internal.

Lobbyists/healthcare/deficit. It's about taking care of each other and having civil peace. It's not how we will compare w rest of the world in terms of marketing, ingenuity, alliances, etc. Housekeeping comes first but alas, we are not faring well here.


Internal...to me, getting money out of politics - Citizens United was a total crock that started us down this path; getting the fairness doctrines back into our media outlets an somehow getting religon out of politics too. somehow, the GOP has blown through our norms like frogs in slowly boiling water and I have no idea how our country recovers from it.
Anonymous
You can not turn this ship around. The political system is unable to govern. It gives veto to rural Americans which are disproportionately old, less wealthy and don’t care about anyone but themselves. Foreign interest clearly have corrupted our lobbying system to the detriment of our country. Look at Israel, Saudi, Russia and China.

The supreme Court only takes political cases, overturning years of legal presidents and in effect over the rule of laws. The house has not increased its size in almost 100 years. Add in the filibuster, gerrymandering, foreign control of media- Fox News, WSJ, twitter, etc and there is no hope of the US addressing issues to make this country competitive in the next decade.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Way too early to declare anything.

I’m bullish on America because the competition of this century will not be over commodities or trade but over human capital. Birth rates are falling all over the world and it will upend everything. China has serious problems coming on that front.

For the total mess that the USA is, the USA is the only country in the world that can really take in and integrate immigrants. And we have a nearly two-century head start on the rest or the world in that category.

For as anti immigrant as the mood in the USA currently is, the rest of the world, and the Asian countries in particular, are really poor at immigration.


I agree with this. America has done well bc of immigration. That is what has made us great.



+1

The biggest prob facing US are internal.

Lobbyists/healthcare/deficit. It's about taking care of each other and having civil peace. It's not how we will compare w rest of the world in terms of marketing, ingenuity, alliances, etc. Housekeeping comes first but alas, we are not faring well here.


Internal...to me, getting money out of politics - Citizens United was a total crock that started us down this path; getting the fairness doctrines back into our media outlets an somehow getting religon out of politics too. somehow, the GOP has blown through our norms like frogs in slowly boiling water and I have no idea how our country recovers from it.


Hilarious. The left owns the mainstream media and educational (ideology camps), but somehow the GOP has blown through the norms. Do you ever step back and read what you write?

A president's house raided. Your political enemies being labeled as depl0rables and MAGA ex+remists. Campus buildings destroyed. Th DOJ weaponized. That's not from the GOP.

Get real.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Way too early to declare anything.

I’m bullish on America because the competition of this century will not be over commodities or trade but over human capital. Birth rates are falling all over the world and it will upend everything. China has serious problems coming on that front.

For the total mess that the USA is, the USA is the only country in the world that can really take in and integrate immigrants. And we have a nearly two-century head start on the rest or the world in that category.

For as anti immigrant as the mood in the USA currently is, the rest of the world, and the Asian countries in particular, are really poor at immigration.


I agree with this. America has done well bc of immigration. That is what has made us great.



+1

The biggest prob facing US are internal.

Lobbyists/healthcare/deficit. It's about taking care of each other and having civil peace. It's not how we will compare w rest of the world in terms of marketing, ingenuity, alliances, etc. Housekeeping comes first but alas, we are not faring well here.


Internal...to me, getting money out of politics - Citizens United was a total crock that started us down this path; getting the fairness doctrines back into our media outlets an somehow getting religon out of politics too. somehow, the GOP has blown through our norms like frogs in slowly boiling water and I have no idea how our country recovers from it.


You let us know when Ac+blue isn't laundering overseas money for campaigns through small donation schemes. You really have your head in the clouds.
Anonymous

No empire lasts forever. US is no exception.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Way too early to declare anything.

I’m bullish on America because the competition of this century will not be over commodities or trade but over human capital. Birth rates are falling all over the world and it will upend everything. China has serious problems coming on that front.

For the total mess that the USA is, the USA is the only country in the world that can really take in and integrate immigrants. And we have a nearly two-century head start on the rest or the world in that category.

For as anti immigrant as the mood in the USA currently is, the rest of the world, and the Asian countries in particular, are really poor at immigration.


I agree with this. America has done well bc of immigration. That is what has made us great.



+1

The biggest prob facing US are internal.

Lobbyists/healthcare/deficit. It's about taking care of each other and having civil peace. It's not how we will compare w rest of the world in terms of marketing, ingenuity, alliances, etc. Housekeeping comes first but alas, we are not faring well here.


Internal...to me, getting money out of politics - Citizens United was a total crock that started us down this path; getting the fairness doctrines back into our media outlets an somehow getting religon out of politics too. somehow, the GOP has blown through our norms like frogs in slowly boiling water and I have no idea how our country recovers from it.


Hilarious. The left owns the mainstream media and educational (ideology camps), but somehow the GOP has blown through the norms. Do you ever step back and read what you write?

A president's house raided. Your political enemies being labeled as depl0rables and MAGA ex+remists. Campus buildings destroyed. Th DOJ weaponized. That's not from the GOP.

Get real.


Just stop the MSM is owned by foreigners and conservatives. MSNBC is extremely conservative. It has hired all the old conservatives from the 1990’s. The good thing is the numbers for conservatives MSM are way down and still falling. The viewership for 2024 presidential elections was down 25% for 2020 and 40% for 2016. The right wing nut job media is being turned off and te corporations are selling off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it wasn't dead before it will be with four more years of trump.



You also told us back in 2000 that the earth would be uninhabitable by 2025


No one said that.

DP.

In 2006, former vice-president Al Gore projected that unless drastic measures were implemented, the planet would hit an irreversible “point of no return” by 2016. Game over.

Rajendra Pachauri, head of the UN Climate Panel, one-upped Gore in 2007, insisting 2012 was the year of irreversibility. “If there is no action before 2012, that’s too late. What we do in the next two to three years will determine our future. This is the defining moment.”

In April 2008, media mogul Ted Turner provided far more detail than either Gore or Pachauri, emphasizing the consequences of climate inaction. “Not doing it will be catastrophic. We’ll be eight degrees hotter in ten, not 10 but 30 or 40 years and basically none of the crops will grow. Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals. Civilization will have broken down. The few people left will be living in a failed state like Somalia or Sudan, and living conditions will be intolerable. The droughts will be so bad there’ll be no more corn growing.”

The acclaimed godfather of global warming, James Hansen, drew a line in the sand testifying before Congress in June 2008, on the dangers of greenhouse gases: “We’re toast if we don’t get on a very different path. This is the last chance.”

A year later, in July 2009, then-Prince Charles chimed in, asserting the planet had 96 months to avoid decimation: “…irretrievable climate and ecosystem collapse, and all that goes with it.”

Only three months later, UK prime minister Gordon Brown urged nations to pull a historical handbrake ahead of a climate conference: “There are now fewer than 50 days to set the course of the next 50 years and more. If we do not reach a deal at this time, let us be in no doubt: once the damage from unchecked emissions growth is done, no retrospective global agreement, in some future period, can undo that choice. By then, it will be irretrievably too late.”

In 2014, French foreign minister Laurent Fabius upped Brown’s 50 days to 500. “We have 500 days to avoid climate chaos.”

Twelve years to 2031. In January 2019, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez put her chips on 2031 as the potential end of days. “Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it? And, like, this is the war—this is our World War ll.”

Eleven years to 2030. Echoing Ocasio-Cortez in March 2019, but shaving off a year, UN General Assembly President Maria Garces declared an 11-year window to escape catastrophe: “We are the last generation that can prevent irreparable damage to our planet.”

In June 2019, then-presidential candidate Joe Biden threw his support behind Ocasio-Cortez’s dozen-year projection: “Science tells us that how we act or fail to act in the next 12 years will determine the very livability of our planet.”

Full circle back to 2023, and the UN’s latest “time-bomb,” released March 20, as described by the Associated Press: “Humanity still has a chance close to the last to prevent the worst of climate change’s future harms…”

In step with near annual UN declarations from the past 50 years, Secretary-General Guterres once again sounded the alarm: “The climate time-bomb is ticking.”

But therein lies the beauty of doomsday predictions: When one fails, make another.

https://www.agweb.com/opinion/doomsday-addiction-celebrating-50-years-failed-climate-predictions
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