Will BIPOC travelers face increased scrutiny / hurdles / roadblocks when returning to the US after the inauguration?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Are you really that ignorant?

Trump’s 2017 Muslim Ban trapped international students with valid visas outside the United States. They were not allowed to re-enter the U.S. until something like 12+ months later, completely derailing their education.

"Valid visas" from failed states like Syria, Yemen, Libya and Somalia or known adversaries like Iran. Yeah, I was OK with a re-vetting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Are you really that ignorant?

Trump’s 2017 Muslim Ban trapped international students with valid visas outside the United States. They were not allowed to re-enter the U.S. until something like 12+ months later, completely derailing their education.

"Valid visas" from failed states like Syria, Yemen, Libya and Somalia or known adversaries like Iran. Yeah, I was OK with a re-vetting.

Exactly. Constant vetting is essential.

[Anonymous]

Realistically: Either people like JD Vance and Thunder are secretly loyal to America and very resourceful, or we have killing fields and a lot of us will soon be dead and mass buried.

Or, part of the nuclear war fallout dust.

Rudeness for BIPOC will not be an issue high on the priority list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

Being a white person from a NATO member country absolutely does not help green card holders with blemished records at airports. They get harassed and sent through a second, slow layer of review, even if any concerns about their current immigration status have been resolved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You put way too much faith in the efficiency of government.

There are currently about 425k undocumented immigrants in the US with criminal records, listed on ICE's "non-detained docket". This includes people convicted of homicide and sexual assault.

So... if the government can't even manage to deport people that most of us agree _should_ be deported, why are we assuming they are going to suddenly do an efficient job of deporting law-abiding immigrants?

My guess is the focus will be placed on deporting convicted criminals, and that alone will keep their hands full for at least the next 4 years.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz04y0371lvo

That's not even true. There are plenty of people who do not agree that undocumented immigrants with a criminal record should be deported. That's why it hasn't happened yet. Lots of immigration attorneys fighting for the rights of criminals to stay here in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Are you really that ignorant?

Trump’s 2017 Muslim Ban trapped international students with valid visas outside the United States. They were not allowed to re-enter the U.S. until something like 12+ months later, completely derailing their education.

"Valid visas" from failed states like Syria, Yemen, Libya and Somalia or known adversaries like Iran. Yeah, I was OK with a re-vetting.

Those people largely hate their home countries and are more “rah rah USA” than the vast majority of fat & comfortable native born American citizens.

Go talk to first gen Persians in Northern VA about the Iranian government.

Trump did that out of bigotry virtue signaling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

+1. My SIL and I are going to the Caribbean for a week over the inauguration. By FIL keeps asking us not to go because he thinks we’ll be trapped outside the US. I hate Trump, but was finally like— we are two 50 year old white women, multigenerational American citizens, with global entry. And I’m a federal employee with clearance. If we can’t get in, no one can get in. And at that point, I’d be more concerned about getting my kids and husband out. Because something would be going very, very wrong. Like, Gilead wrong

Very aware that I have an enormous amount of white privilege here. If I was a Black US citizen, I would probably also not be concerned. Plenty of racism in Trump, but Black isn’t first on the target list. If I was Hispanic or Middle Eastern or maybe Asian (I’d say or Chinese, but Trump can’t tell Chinese from Vietnamese from Thai), I probably would not have planned the trip. Even with a US passport. Trump is big on implement on the toilet based on a Fox News piece and plan never.

And agree, you can’t hit the deportation numbers Trump says he’s going to hit by following the law. And it’s easier to start by keeping LPRs out than deport people.

My favorite part of this post is where you think Trump is personally going to be guessing and subsequently announcing every traveler’s ethnicity at…every?… airport..in the US? Do I have that right? LOL TDR much?

Trump enables a significant portion of CBP agents to be abusive bigots. It’s not “TDR” - Trump literally banned thousands of foreign students from re-entering the U.S. in 2017

No, he doesn’t. This is typical lib speak. Say something hateful that you feel, assign it to the other side with absolutely no proof and declare it to be true. Luckily the whole country sees through it now. Sorry you’re so miserable! And apparently a bigot!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You put way too much faith in the efficiency of government.

There are currently about 425k undocumented immigrants in the US with criminal records, listed on ICE's "non-detained docket". This includes people convicted of homicide and sexual assault.

So... if the government can't even manage to deport people that most of us agree _should_ be deported, why are we assuming they are going to suddenly do an efficient job of deporting law-abiding immigrants?

My guess is the focus will be placed on deporting convicted criminals, and that alone will keep their hands full for at least the next 4 years.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz04y0371lvo

That's not even true. There are plenty of people who do not agree that undocumented immigrants with a criminal record should be deported. That's why it hasn't happened yet. Lots of immigration attorneys fighting for the rights of criminals to stay here in the US.

Oh, and Democrat governors and mayors too...

[Anonymous]

Unless you are African American or Native American your people were immigrants too. We have a declining birth rate in this country and the overwhelming majority of immigrants give more than they take, unlike red state Americans. Immigration is good for this country. The Republicans want you to focus on brown and Black immigrants and call them criminals so you don't focus on Republican grift.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Are you really that ignorant?

Trump’s 2017 Muslim Ban trapped international students with valid visas outside the United States. They were not allowed to re-enter the U.S. until something like 12+ months later, completely derailing their education.

"Valid visas" from failed states like Syria, Yemen, Libya and Somalia or known adversaries like Iran. Yeah, I was OK with a re-vetting.

Per usual, people criticizing immigration policies have no idea how they work. Visas to visit, study, work, whatever in the US are granted by the US government. No one is getting a visa from Syria to come study here. Any failure is our own system's fault, not the failed nation's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Are you really that ignorant?

Trump’s 2017 Muslim Ban trapped international students with valid visas outside the United States. They were not allowed to re-enter the U.S. until something like 12+ months later, completely derailing their education.

"Valid visas" from failed states like Syria, Yemen, Libya and Somalia or known adversaries like Iran. Yeah, I was OK with a re-vetting.

Per usual, people criticizing immigration policies have no idea how they work. Visas to visit, study, work, whatever in the US are granted by the US government. No one is getting a visa from Syria to come study here. Any failure is our own system's fault, not the failed nation's.

This is not true. In 2017 there were 17,000 students from the 7 countries banned. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/01/30/students-and-scholars-are-stranded-after-trump-bars-travel-nationals-7-countries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

+1. My SIL and I are going to the Caribbean for a week over the inauguration. By FIL keeps asking us not to go because he thinks we’ll be trapped outside the US. I hate Trump, but was finally like— we are two 50 year old white women, multigenerational American citizens, with global entry. And I’m a federal employee with clearance. If we can’t get in, no one can get in. And at that point, I’d be more concerned about getting my kids and husband out. Because something would be going very, very wrong. Like, Gilead wrong

Very aware that I have an enormous amount of white privilege here. If I was a Black US citizen, I would probably also not be concerned. Plenty of racism in Trump, but Black isn’t first on the target list. If I was Hispanic or Middle Eastern or maybe Asian (I’d say or Chinese, but Trump can’t tell Chinese from Vietnamese from Thai), I probably would not have planned the trip. Even with a US passport. Trump is big on implement on the toilet based on a Fox News piece and plan never.

And agree, you can’t hit the deportation numbers Trump says he’s going to hit by following the law. And it’s easier to start by keeping LPRs out than deport people.

My favorite part of this post is where you think Trump is personally going to be guessing and subsequently announcing every traveler’s ethnicity at…every?… airport..in the US? Do I have that right? LOL TDR much?

Trump enables a significant portion of CBP agents to be abusive bigots. It’s not “TDR” - Trump literally banned thousands of foreign students from re-entering the U.S. in 2017

No, he doesn’t. This is typical lib speak. Say something hateful that you feel, assign it to the other side with absolutely no proof and declare it to be true. Luckily the whole country sees through it now. Sorry you’re so miserable! And apparently a bigot!

Lib speak? You mean all the things Trump has said since 2015?? You can start with what he said about Obama not being born in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless you are African American or Native American your people were immigrants too. We have a declining birth rate in this country and the overwhelming majority of immigrants give more than they take, unlike red state Americans. Immigration is good for this country. The Republicans want you to focus on brown and Black immigrants and call them criminals so you don't focus on Republican grift.

There are so many fallacies in this post, it is exceptional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Are you really that ignorant?

Trump’s 2017 Muslim Ban trapped international students with valid visas outside the United States. They were not allowed to re-enter the U.S. until something like 12+ months later, completely derailing their education.

"Valid visas" from failed states like Syria, Yemen, Libya and Somalia or known adversaries like Iran. Yeah, I was OK with a re-vetting.

Per usual, people criticizing immigration policies have no idea how they work. Visas to visit, study, work, whatever in the US are granted by the US government. No one is getting a visa from Syria to come study here. Any failure is our own system's fault, not the failed nation's.

We understand that liberal universities admit the students and that the State Department issues the visas. It was shorthand. Adequate vetting prior to issuing a visa is not possible with these regimes. Get over yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Two examples from non-Trump times of border issues.

Mainland Chinese co-worker with US MBA and legal work permit associated with F500 job. Went home to China for vacation. Returned to US city by air with slightly less than 6 months on Chinese passport. Refused entry at border. Sent back to China. Took about one month for her to straighten it all out and get admitted and back to work.

Married Taiwanese professor legally working at US university. Wife living in Taiwan was not emotionally close to husband (arranged marriage) so she did not live with him. However she visited him from time to time in the U.S. On one visit, she tipped off the border patrol that she was coming to visit her husband not doing "tourism". She should have had a spouse visa, which she would have been eligible for. They refused entry and I think gave her a US entry ban...not sure if it was a few years or permanent.

So that's the kind of thing that could happen with a border crackdown without people intending wrongdoing. Obviously, being denied entry could really disrupt a semester.