Will BIPOC travelers face increased scrutiny / hurdles / roadblocks when returning to the US after the inauguration?

[Anonymous]

You put way too much faith in the efficiency of government.

There are currently about 425k undocumented immigrants in the US with criminal records, listed on ICE's "non-detained docket". This includes people convicted of homicide and sexual assault.

So... if the government can't even manage to deport people that most of us agree _should_ be deported, why are we assuming they are going to suddenly do an efficient job of deporting law-abiding immigrants?

My guess is the focus will be placed on deporting convicted criminals, and that alone will keep their hands full for at least the next 4 years.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz04y0371lvo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

A lot of people without legal immigration documents actually are white, so that won’t help that much. Especially if they are also convicted criminals.

[Anonymous]

GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Because it's probably going to be chaos for a while, and it's best to get back for the semester pre chaos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

+1. My SIL and I are going to the Caribbean for a week over the inauguration. By FIL keeps asking us not to go because he thinks we’ll be trapped outside the US. I hate Trump, but was finally like— we are two 50 year old white women, multigenerational American citizens, with global entry. And I’m a federal employee with clearance. If we can’t get in, no one can get in. And at that point, I’d be more concerned about getting my kids and husband out. Because something would be going very, very wrong. Like, Gilead wrong

Very aware that I have an enormous amount of white privilege here. If I was a Black US citizen, I would probably also not be concerned. Plenty of racism in Trump, but Black isn’t first on the target list. If I was Hispanic or Middle Eastern or maybe Asian (I’d say or Chinese, but Trump can’t tell Chinese from Vietnamese from Thai), I probably would not have planned the trip. Even with a US passport. Trump is big on implement on the toilet based on a Fox News piece and plan never.

And agree, you can’t hit the deportation numbers Trump says he’s going to hit by following the law. And it’s easier to start by keeping LPRs out than deport people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

A lot of people without legal immigration documents actually are white, so that won’t help that much. Especially if they are also convicted criminals.

And yet, it’s not going to be the white people being hassled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, I doubt they will be adding that many CBP officers at airports, so are they gonig to waste more time and have worse metrics due to longer wait times?

For example, Texas is 39.6% white = 60% of people in Texas are BIPOC. Are they going to scrutinize the majority of travelers? That will take forever, and complaints will be flying in to Congresspeople from all over.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL. They are planning to fire 75% of Feds. You think they care about wait times?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

No. GW lived through the Muslim ban implantation, in all its chaos. There is no telling what sweeping illegal
Cr#p is in Trump’s Day 1. It could take some time to sort out the chaos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

A lot of people without legal immigration documents actually are white, so that won’t help that much. Especially if they are also convicted criminals.

And yet, it’s not going to be the white people being hassled.

The point is that some people are assuming that it is pocs who are going to be hassled, but it is actually people who don’t have legal documentation of immigration status- and many of those people are white. The whole issue of deportation is being based on whether or not people have legal documentation of their status, not skin color. Because lots of the people who fit into this category do not in any way look like they are of any “color” but white. They are going to try to deport anyone without legal documentation, they won’t care two bits about that person’s skin color.

[Anonymous]

My MIL is worried about coming back to the US. She is a US born latino. But I told her if we get to a point where US citizens aren't allowed back in the US then we probably don't want to come back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GW is telling its international students to get back into the U.S. from winter break before January 20th:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gwu/s/k3iFhvIuAT

Why? Do they not have valid student visas?

Are you really that ignorant?

Trump’s 2017 Muslim Ban trapped international students with valid visas outside the United States. They were not allowed to re-enter the U.S. until something like 12+ months later, completely derailing their education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

+1. My SIL and I are going to the Caribbean for a week over the inauguration. By FIL keeps asking us not to go because he thinks we’ll be trapped outside the US. I hate Trump, but was finally like— we are two 50 year old white women, multigenerational American citizens, with global entry. And I’m a federal employee with clearance. If we can’t get in, no one can get in. And at that point, I’d be more concerned about getting my kids and husband out. Because something would be going very, very wrong. Like, Gilead wrong

Very aware that I have an enormous amount of white privilege here. If I was a Black US citizen, I would probably also not be concerned. Plenty of racism in Trump, but Black isn’t first on the target list. If I was Hispanic or Middle Eastern or maybe Asian (I’d say or Chinese, but Trump can’t tell Chinese from Vietnamese from Thai), I probably would not have planned the trip. Even with a US passport. Trump is big on implement on the toilet based on a Fox News piece and plan never.

And agree, you can’t hit the deportation numbers Trump says he’s going to hit by following the law. And it’s easier to start by keeping LPRs out than deport people.

My favorite part of this post is where you think Trump is personally going to be guessing and subsequently announcing every traveler’s ethnicity at…every?… airport..in the US? Do I have that right? LOL TDR much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just don’t be an undocumented traveler, illegal in any way or have any kind of a criminal record. It’s not because of your BIPOC or LMNOP status. They will have their hands full.

Or just be white.

+1. My SIL and I are going to the Caribbean for a week over the inauguration. By FIL keeps asking us not to go because he thinks we’ll be trapped outside the US. I hate Trump, but was finally like— we are two 50 year old white women, multigenerational American citizens, with global entry. And I’m a federal employee with clearance. If we can’t get in, no one can get in. And at that point, I’d be more concerned about getting my kids and husband out. Because something would be going very, very wrong. Like, Gilead wrong

Very aware that I have an enormous amount of white privilege here. If I was a Black US citizen, I would probably also not be concerned. Plenty of racism in Trump, but Black isn’t first on the target list. If I was Hispanic or Middle Eastern or maybe Asian (I’d say or Chinese, but Trump can’t tell Chinese from Vietnamese from Thai), I probably would not have planned the trip. Even with a US passport. Trump is big on implement on the toilet based on a Fox News piece and plan never.

And agree, you can’t hit the deportation numbers Trump says he’s going to hit by following the law. And it’s easier to start by keeping LPRs out than deport people.

My favorite part of this post is where you think Trump is personally going to be guessing and subsequently announcing every traveler’s ethnicity at…every?… airport..in the US? Do I have that right? LOL TDR much?

Trump enables a significant portion of CBP agents to be abusive bigots. It’s not “TDR” - Trump literally banned thousands of foreign students from re-entering the U.S. in 2017

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are French but not white. The worst treatment we ever received by a border officer was at Niagara Falls 12 years ago. The officer yelled at my husband, spit flying off his face, and called him a liar, and that he was trying to enter the US illegally. The entire office was staring at us. My 2 year old was crying. It wasn't until the manager came out of his office with our papers and told him we were allowed to enter that he stopped.

It all happened right under the sign every border office has that says they will always treat everyone with respect. I wanted to point to it, but in the mood he was in, he might have kicked us out. Border officers have ultimate power of decision in the moment, and if you're kicked out it stays on your record and makes future visas or green cards harder to get. If you get an aggressive one, you have absolutely no power, you cannot respond in kind, you cannot do anything except try to stay calm and explain yourself. And they know it. You cannot complain to their supervisor, there is no system to send anything up the chain.

I believe many people who want border control jobs in the first place are people who enjoy dominating others. The cruelty is the point, sometimes, and that's regardless of which administration is in the White House.

Every time we land at Dulles, we wait in line for 1-2 hours (no chairs - our kids have slept on the floor), and the officers are grumpy 99% of the time. There was only one who was nice, in all the 20 years I've lived in the US on a visa.
But none of them came close to that horror at Niagara Falls.

Yeah, this is true for all of us. And guess what? When white Americans fly to France, they also come in contact with grumpy immigration officers.