No confidence in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The absentee rates are alarming. Get the kids in school. Keep them interested.

That doesn’t work when you have parents who take kids out whenever they feel like it.

I see posts in my feed all the time with parents being like “we played hooky today!”

And then they wonder why their kids don’t care about school.

+1 my kids complain that we never take the them out of school for vacations. They said *everyone* does it.

The schools themselves have encouraged this by telling us education is less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Of course a lot of families became disconnected from schools.

Schools didn’t say they were less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Schools and teachers tried to explain how difficult it would be to adhere to any safety protocols in schools with old facilities and KIDS. Have your been in some of our MS/HS during class change? Have you seen how. K/1st graders disregard personal space? And when folks didn’t listen they used the law to protect themselves by saying they were not defined as essential. And they aren’t as they aren’t the difference between life and death.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue isn’t MCPS. Its society. This is the first generation being raised with phones and iPads as easy entertainment. Kids don’t learn to manage themselves, think for themselves, be creative, etc. Their parents are millennials who were raised in structured activities, trophy for everything, and now don’t have some essential parenting skills like setting boundaries.

The public education system isn’t designed to be a service industry that so many people treat it as. Too many people (federal, state, local, individual) have very different ideas of how it should operate, which pulls it in too many directions. Yes there are plenty of problems, but it’s not something that MCPS alone can fix.

Millennials didn’t entirely raise this generation of school kids. It’s a combination of gen x and millennials.

Yeah those two groups have really distinct ideas about how life should look for kids and discipline.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue isn’t MCPS. Its society. This is the first generation being raised with phones and iPads as easy entertainment. Kids don’t learn to manage themselves, think for themselves, be creative, etc. Their parents are millennials who were raised in structured activities, trophy for everything, and now don’t have some essential parenting skills like setting boundaries.

The public education system isn’t designed to be a service industry that so many people treat it as. Too many people (federal, state, local, individual) have very different ideas of how it should operate, which pulls it in too many directions. Yes there are plenty of problems, but it’s not something that MCPS alone can fix.

Stop giving MCPS an out for its dysfunction:

- Cycling through 3 different superintendents in the past 2 years is very much a uniquely MCPS problem
- The Beidleman Scandal is definitely an MCPS problem and issue, not a national one
- The EV Bus contract mismanagement was also an MCPS problem, not a national one
- The Woodward/Northwood construction fiasco is also MCPS

Even if we want to give MCPS a pass for the trends associated with teacher/principal burnout and increases in student misbehavior, there is massive corruption, instability and leadership failures within the school system that exacerbate those issues. MCPS IS the problem.

You need to fix the top to fix these issues. Start with the BOE. They all need to be removed (we will see about the new ones).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The absentee rates are alarming. Get the kids in school. Keep them interested.

That doesn’t work when you have parents who take kids out whenever they feel like it.

I see posts in my feed all the time with parents being like “we played hooky today!”

And then they wonder why their kids don’t care about school.

+1 my kids complain that we never take the them out of school for vacations. They said *everyone* does it.

The schools themselves have encouraged this by telling us education is less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Of course a lot of families became disconnected from schools.

Schools didn’t say they were less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Schools and teachers tried to explain how difficult it would be to adhere to any safety protocols in schools with old facilities and KIDS. Have your been in some of our MS/HS during class change? Have you seen how. K/1st graders disregard personal space? And when folks didn’t listen they used the law to protect themselves by saying they were not defined as essential. And they aren’t as they aren’t the difference between life and death.

Many parents were going to work in old facilities without proper safety protocols, because those protocols were not evidence based or realistic. If they hadn't, there would have been massive food shortages and much more inflation. With schools, the decision was made that the consequences of no in person schooling were not as important as those other things. Well fine but now those consequences are here. Stop blaming the very parents that risked their lives to make sure you had food during the pandemic. It's offensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue isn’t MCPS. Its society. This is the first generation being raised with phones and iPads as easy entertainment. Kids don’t learn to manage themselves, think for themselves, be creative, etc. Their parents are millennials who were raised in structured activities, trophy for everything, and now don’t have some essential parenting skills like setting boundaries.

The public education system isn’t designed to be a service industry that so many people treat it as. Too many people (federal, state, local, individual) have very different ideas of how it should operate, which pulls it in too many directions. Yes there are plenty of problems, but it’s not something that MCPS alone can fix.

Millennials didn’t entirely raise this generation of school kids. It’s a combination of gen x and millennials.

Yeah those two groups have really distinct ideas about how life should look for kids and discipline.

Fountas and Pinnell released their deeply flawed Benchmark Assessment System in 2007. It was an assessment system that didn't even meet basic validation criteria. Their own study raised questions about its reliability.

School systems that used Benchmark were not taking literacy education seriously. It was a complete joke. F any body that blames parents for losing confidence in a system that pays so much for literal BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The absentee rates are alarming. Get the kids in school. Keep them interested.

That doesn’t work when you have parents who take kids out whenever they feel like it.

I see posts in my feed all the time with parents being like “we played hooky today!”

And then they wonder why their kids don’t care about school.

+1 my kids complain that we never take the them out of school for vacations. They said *everyone* does it.

The schools themselves have encouraged this by telling us education is less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Of course a lot of families became disconnected from schools.

Schools didn’t say they were less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Schools and teachers tried to explain how difficult it would be to adhere to any safety protocols in schools with old facilities and KIDS. Have your been in some of our MS/HS during class change? Have you seen how. K/1st graders disregard personal space? And when folks didn’t listen they used the law to protect themselves by saying they were not defined as essential. And they aren’t as they aren’t the difference between life and death.

Many parents were going to work in old facilities without proper safety protocols, because those protocols were not evidence based or realistic. If they hadn't, there would have been massive food shortages and much more inflation. With schools, the decision was made that the consequences of no in person schooling were not as important as those other things. Well fine but now those consequences are here. Stop blaming the very parents that risked their lives to make sure you had food during the pandemic. It's offensive.

Any job that could went remote so there was much more distancing and you cannot compare a large school of 500-3400 students plus staff to an office or anything else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absentee rates are alarming. Get the kids in school. Keep them interested.

That doesn’t work when you have parents who take kids out whenever they feel like it.

I see posts in my feed all the time with parents being like “we played hooky today!”

And then they wonder why their kids don’t care about school.

+1 my kids complain that we never take the them out of school for vacations. They said *everyone* does it.

The schools themselves have encouraged this by telling us education is less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Of course a lot of families became disconnected from schools.

Schools didn’t say they were less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Schools and teachers tried to explain how difficult it would be to adhere to any safety protocols in schools with old facilities and KIDS. Have your been in some of our MS/HS during class change? Have you seen how. K/1st graders disregard personal space? And when folks didn’t listen they used the law to protect themselves by saying they were not defined as essential. And they aren’t as they aren’t the difference between life and death.

Many parents were going to work in old facilities without proper safety protocols, because those protocols were not evidence based or realistic. If they hadn't, there would have been massive food shortages and much more inflation. With schools, the decision was made that the consequences of no in person schooling were not as important as those other things. Well fine but now those consequences are here. Stop blaming the very parents that risked their lives to make sure you had food during the pandemic. It's offensive.

What?? Doctors and nurses who are in fact essential went to work everyday also. Does that suddenly mean they are able to abdicate responsibility from parenting? Because they were in person during the pandemic means their kids can show up to school lacking respect, understanding of basic boundaries, and how to spell their name?

That’s like saying because military personnel deploy to war their kids are exempt from acting civilized in school and working to learn. No one believes that and certainly not anyone in the military that serves with honor.

Parenting is parenting and expected regardless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absentee rates are alarming. Get the kids in school. Keep them interested.

That doesn’t work when you have parents who take kids out whenever they feel like it.

I see posts in my feed all the time with parents being like “we played hooky today!”

And then they wonder why their kids don’t care about school.

+1 my kids complain that we never take the them out of school for vacations. They said *everyone* does it.

The schools themselves have encouraged this by telling us education is less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Of course a lot of families became disconnected from schools.

Schools didn’t say they were less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Schools and teachers tried to explain how difficult it would be to adhere to any safety protocols in schools with old facilities and KIDS. Have your been in some of our MS/HS during class change? Have you seen how. K/1st graders disregard personal space? And when folks didn’t listen they used the law to protect themselves by saying they were not defined as essential. And they aren’t as they aren’t the difference between life and death.

Many parents were going to work in old facilities without proper safety protocols, because those protocols were not evidence based or realistic. If they hadn't, there would have been massive food shortages and much more inflation. With schools, the decision was made that the consequences of no in person schooling were not as important as those other things. Well fine but now those consequences are here. Stop blaming the very parents that risked their lives to make sure you had food during the pandemic. It's offensive.

Any job that could went remote so there was much more distancing and you cannot compare a large school of 500-3400 students plus staff to an office or anything else.

As usual you like to pretend all MCPS parents are working from home in their jammies making $200k which is completely divorced from reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problems are diverse, but they point back to the same cause: MCEA's control of the Board of Education. Until the union falls apart, MCPS isn't likely to get better.

MCEA has frequently fought with the BOE and the BOE doesn't listen to MCEA. Don't think that's the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absentee rates are alarming. Get the kids in school. Keep them interested.

That doesn’t work when you have parents who take kids out whenever they feel like it.

I see posts in my feed all the time with parents being like “we played hooky today!”

And then they wonder why their kids don’t care about school.

+1 my kids complain that we never take the them out of school for vacations. They said *everyone* does it.

The schools themselves have encouraged this by telling us education is less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Of course a lot of families became disconnected from schools.

Schools didn’t say they were less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Schools and teachers tried to explain how difficult it would be to adhere to any safety protocols in schools with old facilities and KIDS. Have your been in some of our MS/HS during class change? Have you seen how. K/1st graders disregard personal space? And when folks didn’t listen they used the law to protect themselves by saying they were not defined as essential. And they aren’t as they aren’t the difference between life and death.

Many parents were going to work in old facilities without proper safety protocols, because those protocols were not evidence based or realistic. If they hadn't, there would have been massive food shortages and much more inflation. With schools, the decision was made that the consequences of no in person schooling were not as important as those other things. Well fine but now those consequences are here. Stop blaming the very parents that risked their lives to make sure you had food during the pandemic. It's offensive.

What?? Doctors and nurses who are in fact essential went to work everyday also. Does that suddenly mean they are able to abdicate responsibility from parenting? Because they were in person during the pandemic means their kids can show up to school lacking respect, understanding of basic boundaries, and how to spell their name?

That’s like saying because military personnel deploy to war their kids are exempt from acting civilized in school and working to learn. No one believes that and certainly not anyone in the military that serves with honor.

Parenting is parenting and expected regardless.

Wtf are you talking about? Closing school buildings for over a year had consequences. Consequences that were completely predictable. Some other things that have consequences are no discipline in schools, screens in schools and a total failure to teach kids to read. It's hilarious and sad that in light of all of these things you just put your fingers in your ears and screech "bad parents!!!"

[Anonymous]

All of these behaviors existed in school before the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue isn’t MCPS. Its society. This is the first generation being raised with phones and iPads as easy entertainment. Kids don’t learn to manage themselves, think for themselves, be creative, etc. Their parents are millennials who were raised in structured activities, trophy for everything, and now don’t have some essential parenting skills like setting boundaries.

The public education system isn’t designed to be a service industry that so many people treat it as. Too many people (federal, state, local, individual) have very different ideas of how it should operate, which pulls it in too many directions. Yes there are plenty of problems, but it’s not something that MCPS alone can fix.

Stop giving MCPS an out for its dysfunction:

- Cycling through 3 different superintendents in the past 2 years is very much a uniquely MCPS problem
- The Beidleman Scandal is definitely an MCPS problem and issue, not a national one
- The EV Bus contract mismanagement was also an MCPS problem, not a national one
- The Woodward/Northwood construction fiasco is also MCPS

Even if we want to give MCPS a pass for the trends associated with teacher/principal burnout and increases in student misbehavior, there is massive corruption, instability and leadership failures within the school system that exacerbate those issues. MCPS IS the problem.

You need to fix the top to fix these issues. Start with the BOE. They all need to be removed (we will see about the new ones).

I appreciate your optimism but the new members will be some of the worst we've ever had because they are so progressive they can't even name what the problems are. If you can't name it you can't fix it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problems are diverse, but they point back to the same cause: MCEA's control of the Board of Education. Until the union falls apart, MCPS isn't likely to get better.

MCEA has frequently fought with the BOE and the BOE doesn't listen to MCEA. Don't think that's the problem.

Don't be ridiculous. MCEA almost always gets what they want.

[Anonymous]

I'm happy with our ES. I'm a little bit worried about MS and HS when the time comes. Will have to see when we get there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The absentee rates are alarming. Get the kids in school. Keep them interested.

That doesn’t work when you have parents who take kids out whenever they feel like it.

I see posts in my feed all the time with parents being like “we played hooky today!”

And then they wonder why their kids don’t care about school.

+1 my kids complain that we never take the them out of school for vacations. They said *everyone* does it.

The schools themselves have encouraged this by telling us education is less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Of course a lot of families became disconnected from schools.

Schools didn’t say they were less essential than staffing Amazon warehouses. Schools and teachers tried to explain how difficult it would be to adhere to any safety protocols in schools with old facilities and KIDS. Have your been in some of our MS/HS during class change? Have you seen how. K/1st graders disregard personal space? And when folks didn’t listen they used the law to protect themselves by saying they were not defined as essential. And they aren’t as they aren’t the difference between life and death.

Many parents were going to work in old facilities without proper safety protocols, because those protocols were not evidence based or realistic. If they hadn't, there would have been massive food shortages and much more inflation. With schools, the decision was made that the consequences of no in person schooling were not as important as those other things. Well fine but now those consequences are here. Stop blaming the very parents that risked their lives to make sure you had food during the pandemic. It's offensive.

Any job that could went remote so there was much more distancing and you cannot compare a large school of 500-3400 students plus staff to an office or anything else.

As usual you like to pretend all MCPS parents are working from home in their jammies making $200k which is completely divorced from reality.

You lack comprehension. The PP said, any job that could went remote. Teachers could go remote so they did.