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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

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Make your own post about the math issue at your school and stop crapping on the kids who worked with teachers to develop interesting electives at their schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Make your own post about the math issue at your school and stop crapping on the kids who worked with teachers to develop interesting electives at their schools.

These are in intersting and what are they really teaching kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

Aren't they required to take math four years?

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Anonymous wrote:Make your own post about the math issue at your school and stop crapping on the kids who worked with teachers to develop interesting electives at their schools.

Here is a thread on math:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1234190.page

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

The schools do have two years of math they just don’t have two years of math above a certain level. Also schools are opting in to what courses they want to offer so take it up with your school about why they don’t offer the class you are seeking. Lastly, if your school doesn’t offer the class, colleges will understand why you haven’t taken it as you are being judged against the students at your HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

Aren't they required to take math four years?

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

The schools do have two years of math they just don’t have two years of math above a certain level. Also schools are opting in to what courses they want to offer so take it up with your school about why they don’t offer the class you are seeking. Lastly, if your school doesn’t offer the class, colleges will understand why you haven’t taken it as you are being judged against the students at your HS.

No, colleges will not understand and you NEED four years of math to graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

The schools do have two years of math they just don’t have two years of math above a certain level. Also schools are opting in to what courses they want to offer so take it up with your school about why they don’t offer the class you are seeking. Lastly, if your school doesn’t offer the class, colleges will understand why you haven’t taken it as you are being judged against the students at your HS.

No, colleges will not understand and you NEED four years of math to graduate.

Of course colleges understand. A) most colleges are not expecting most kids to take Math beyond Calculus, B) Not all school or districts offer courses beyond calculus. C) While you need four years of math no where does it say the math must be beyond Calculus

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

The schools do have two years of math they just don’t have two years of math above a certain level. Also schools are opting in to what courses they want to offer so take it up with your school about why they don’t offer the class you are seeking. Lastly, if your school doesn’t offer the class, colleges will understand why you haven’t taken it as you are being judged against the students at your HS.

No, colleges will not understand and you NEED four years of math to graduate.

Of course colleges understand. A) most colleges are not expecting most kids to take Math beyond Calculus, B) Not all school or districts offer courses beyond calculus. C) While you need four years of math no where does it say the math must be beyond Calculus

College admissions offices absolutely compare students from within a school system (and even from within a state) despite differential offerings across individual schools. Some will make allowance for higher level courses being available or not, but the extent of that allowance varies, and a straight-A student with higher level courses almost always will be selected over a straight-A student without (all other factors being equal), even when those courses were only available to the former.

That's just one inequity. The other, and potentially more important even as most focus on the first, is the difference in learning opportunity, itself. A public school system should not be providing broadly differential opportunities/experiences to students from different zip codes/census tracts.

Adding good electives is great. Pilot programs are important to making that possible. However, funding for them comes from the same bucket, ultimately, as "core" options, even if notionally separated for managerial purposes.

Some may consider "core" only graduation-required courses. Many would consider most language (reading/writing), math, science and social studies as "core," whether graduation-required or not. Some would include foreign language in that definition, and the availability of advanced FL courses also varies. Some would suggest that elements of physical education, the arts, technology/engineering (separate from the basic sciences) and other subjects (personal finance had been a hot topic) should be part of a well-rounded education.

Which of these gets addressed, and made available on a reasonably equivalent basis, beyond those strictly required for graduation is a reasonable subject for discussion related to new courses being added to the mix.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

The schools do have two years of math they just don’t have two years of math above a certain level. Also schools are opting in to what courses they want to offer so take it up with your school about why they don’t offer the class you are seeking. Lastly, if your school doesn’t offer the class, colleges will understand why you haven’t taken it as you are being judged against the students at your HS.

No, colleges will not understand and you NEED four years of math to graduate.

Of course colleges understand. A) most colleges are not expecting most kids to take Math beyond Calculus, B) Not all school or districts offer courses beyond calculus. C) While you need four years of math no where does it say the math must be beyond Calculus

College admissions offices absolutely compare students from within a school system (and even from within a state) despite differential offerings across individual schools. Some will make allowance for higher level courses being available or not, but the extent of that allowance varies, and a straight-A student with higher level courses almost always will be selected over a straight-A student without (all other factors being equal), even when those courses were only available to the former.


Can you share what you are basing that assertion on? I've gone through the process with two MCPS DC already, and every admissions presentation we've been to makes clear that the judgment as to the rigor of your course load is based on the courses available to you. None have suggested that is determined school system wide, which frankly makes zero sense because the courses at Blair, for example, are not available elsewhere, nor are the IB courses at RM. And each school is required to send with each application a school profile, listing the courses offered at that school, precisely so that AOs know what the options were for the applying student. That's a school-by-school thing, not a system wide thing.

And FWIW, not every ambitious student is aiming for the top math class. There are plenty of student who wish that an AP science or an IB History class offered elsewhere were offered at their school. But it goes without saying that not every advanced class can be offered at every school.

In any event, if your child really wants a level higher than what your HS offers, please look at taking an online course at MC. There are students at our home school who want a level of MV not offered there and that is what they do.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

The schools do have two years of math they just don’t have two years of math above a certain level. Also schools are opting in to what courses they want to offer so take it up with your school about why they don’t offer the class you are seeking. Lastly, if your school doesn’t offer the class, colleges will understand why you haven’t taken it as you are being judged against the students at your HS.

No, colleges will not understand and you NEED four years of math to graduate.

Of course colleges understand. A) most colleges are not expecting most kids to take Math beyond Calculus, B) Not all school or districts offer courses beyond calculus. C) While you need four years of math no where does it say the math must be beyond Calculus

College admissions offices absolutely compare students from within a school system (and even from within a state) despite differential offerings across individual schools. Some will make allowance for higher level courses being available or not, but the extent of that allowance varies, and a straight-A student with higher level courses almost always will be selected over a straight-A student without (all other factors being equal), even when those courses were only available to the former.


Can you share what you are basing that assertion on? I've gone through the process with two MCPS DC already, and every admissions presentation we've been to makes clear that the judgment as to the rigor of your course load is based on the courses available to you. None have suggested that is determined school system wide, which frankly makes zero sense because the courses at Blair, for example, are not available elsewhere, nor are the IB courses at RM. And each school is required to send with each application a school profile, listing the courses offered at that school, precisely so that AOs know what the options were for the applying student. That's a school-by-school thing, not a system wide thing.

And FWIW, not every ambitious student is aiming for the top math class. There are plenty of student who wish that an AP science or an IB History class offered elsewhere were offered at their school. But it goes without saying that not every advanced class can be offered at every school.

In any event, if your child really wants a level higher than what your HS offers, please look at taking an online course at MC. There are students at our home school who want a level of MV not offered there and that is what they do.

Taking a class at MC only works if your child is on a reduced schedule or at MC full time or no activities as they are at night or after school and many kids have activities, private lessons, school clubs after school. So, senior year they may allow a reduced schedule, but not junior year. I have looked and there is no way to fit it in the schedule.

Every school should have advanced math offering especially when kids are pushing into Algebra in 6th or 7th grade. There is no excuse for it. MCPS could also offer it virtually. A 16 year old should not be forced into college classes. It should be a class available to all vs. this other non-sense.

Our school doesn't have AP science classes. IB are not the same or equal in any way. IB math is much slower and not equal.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

The schools do have two years of math they just don’t have two years of math above a certain level. Also schools are opting in to what courses they want to offer so take it up with your school about why they don’t offer the class you are seeking. Lastly, if your school doesn’t offer the class, colleges will understand why you haven’t taken it as you are being judged against the students at your HS.

No, they don't. Our school stops at Caculus. So, there aren't two more years of math for kids if they take caculus as Sophmores.

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Anonymous wrote:Won't lack of funding cut non essential courses?

No, they cut essential ones instead and send kids to Mc.

No they don't. These are elective courses.

Schools can only offer so many classes. So, they are trading one class for another. We are told we have to go to MC and we have to provide transportation come junior year. Not happening.

Schools cannot trade out core courses for elective courses. And they can’t force a student to go to MC. AP classes are not core courses. Various electives are not core courses. Core classes are those like English 10,11,12, Alg 2,etc. So while they are trading elective classes it’s likely the ones for which there are the most interest.

Also for DE courses at NC, they provide transportation to the MC campuses.

So, what do students do when their school does not offer math classes appropriate for them junior and senior year as they stop after calculus? They don’t provide transportation for one class.

You take an available math course or equivalent in your school. Be it Statistics or a Computer Science course. You plan to split Calculus into two years with Calc AB and Calc BC thus ensure the student has a great foundation in the material and will be able to pass College placement exams. You work with a counselor to see if a higher course is offered at a nearby HS that the student can get public transportation to and get a free period in between to be able to make the trip. You work with the counselor to determine how many students have the same need to understand why a higher course is not being selected to be offered at your school.

Computer science is separate and does not count for math classes. There is no easy public transportation and transportation should be mcps problem. They scream equity but there is not any. No, my kid should not have to slow down math and make them less competitive. Mcps should offer it at all schools. Or, provide it virtually.

Why would the be less competitive? If the class isn’t offered in their school it won’t count against them. Also you are arguing about one subject and most of the approved courses are electives that would have no impact on the math department.

You don't see the inequity in that our school doesn't have two years of math for some kids and others do? And, MCPS has no plan to address it but let the parents figure it out. If other students on the same track have two more yeas of advanced math and a child stops the math come junior year, you don't see how the child stopping math would be less competative.

The schools do have two years of math they just don’t have two years of math above a certain level. Also schools are opting in to what courses they want to offer so take it up with your school about why they don’t offer the class you are seeking. Lastly, if your school doesn’t offer the class, colleges will understand why you haven’t taken it as you are being judged against the students at your HS.

No, they don't. Our school stops at Caculus. So, there aren't two more years of math for kids if they take caculus as Sophmores.

How many students at your HS are taking Calculus as sophomores? If there actually are enough students at your HS to warrant offering MV or whatever class you seem to think is warranted, then perhaps you should advocate for that at your HS. And if there aren't enough students to warrant that, then, respectfully, please stop insisting that a school you apparently do not have a child attending should not offer classes that the students at that school have requested