Orchestra vs Band and race

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess I was a unicorn I played both piano and violin growing up and I am a cracker

Depends on the location.

But a lot of places where there is not an very competitive environment for music are cutting back on music education and orchestra usually gets cut first. Of course, that is not the case in the DMV.

[Anonymous]

I am Asian. I know many asian families enroll their kids at age 5 or earlier for piano, and then violin. I think I am the odd one. My kids are 5 and 9 with no music background that means they can't read music sheets. I wonder if it is too late for them to learn now just for fun, possibly joining band or orchestra if they decide to go further one day. I don't want to spend too much money in private 1:1, but I doubt if group lessons work or not for real. 5 year old wants to learn piano, and 9 year old is interested in drum or guitar for rock.

[Anonymous]

Indians like piano too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m in a mixed family and I’ll be forthright and say that Asians look down on wind instruments with the exception (maaaybe) of flute. In East Asian immigrant cultures and in my native country, which was a former colonial country, piano and strings were widely adopted as aspirational western instruments that had positive associations with wealth, class and education. Band instruments were just something used in military bands or at nightclubs. So for highly educated but not wealthy families in my country, it would be like chasing a low-class lifestyle to take up a wind instrument.

Even now my family has prejudices against wind instruments and my mom makes disapproving noises when DD suggests she’ll take up the saxophone next year.

I can’t speak of all Asians, but my family is really snobby and uptight about signaling education and inner worth via hobbies and activities. Ballet class good, jazz class bad. Tennis good, soccer bad. Watercolor lessons good, pottery lessons bad. And so on.

Asians can’t move on, huh? At our middle school violins are the preferred instrument for the Asian kids. I’ve also noticed the best style of dance Asians do is hip hop. They excel at hip hop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Indians like piano too

Last I looked, they were Asian too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am Asian. I know many asian families enroll their kids at age 5 or earlier for piano, and then violin. I think I am the odd one. My kids are 5 and 9 with no music background that means they can't read music sheets. I wonder if it is too late for them to learn now just for fun, possibly joining band or orchestra if they decide to go further one day. I don't want to spend too much money in private 1:1, but I doubt if group lessons work or not for real. 5 year old wants to learn piano, and 9 year old is interested in drum or guitar for rock.

It used to be considered part of being a well educated MC person to know how to read music, for white Americans, but that seems to be an old fashioned idea nowadays. My kids took piano lessons in order to learn to read music. One stuck with piano, one didn't. They both play other instruments now, also.

[Anonymous]

When I grew up ( a tiny Asian country) we only heard of piano and recorder. Since I heard kids could learn violin starting 4th grade in public school, I just signed them up for violin like most others do. I didn’t let kids signup band starting 5th since adding another music instrument means more time for practicing. I guess, it’s much more easier to find violin teachers/classes than band music instrument teachers/classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I grew up ( a tiny Asian country) we only heard of piano and recorder. Since I heard kids could learn violin starting 4th grade in public school, I just signed them up for violin like most others do. I didn’t let kids signup band starting 5th since adding another music instrument means more time for practicing. I guess, it’s much more easier to find violin teachers/classes than band music instrument teachers/classes.[/quote]

At the intro level, unless it's Suzuki, these teachers are usually at the same locations.

[Anonymous]

What is suzuki?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Band = wind and percussion. Think instruments you blow or beat. Clarinet, oboe, flute, saxophone, tuba, euphonium, drum, xylophone, glockenspiel…

Orchestra = *mostly string instruments* with a small section of wind and percussion. Large sections of violin, viola, and cello, accompanied by a couple of each of the other instruments

Nope.

Bands=marching
Orchestra=sitting down

That’s it

Marching band is different from band. Not all bands march. Bands also do not have any string instruments.

I was in a marching band. Trumpet, French horn. We competed in the summer with other bands. So fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is suzuki?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_method

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am Asian. I know many asian families enroll their kids at age 5 or earlier for piano, and then violin. I think I am the odd one. My kids are 5 and 9 with no music background that means they can't read music sheets. I wonder if it is too late for them to learn now just for fun, possibly joining band or orchestra if they decide to go further one day. I don't want to spend too much money in private 1:1, but I doubt if group lessons work or not for real. 5 year old wants to learn piano, and 9 year old is interested in drum or guitar for rock.

You can find cheap online instructors. Focus on percussion vs just kit alone. Not too late at all. Percussion for orchestra generally starts in middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Band = wind and percussion. Think instruments you blow or beat. Clarinet, oboe, flute, saxophone, tuba, euphonium, drum, xylophone, glockenspiel…

Orchestra = *mostly string instruments* with a small section of wind and percussion. Large sections of violin, viola, and cello, accompanied by a couple of each of the other instruments

Nope.

Bands=marching
Orchestra=sitting down

That’s it

Marching band is different from band. Not all bands march. Bands also do not have any string instruments.

I was in a marching band. Trumpet, French horn. We competed in the summer with other bands. So fun.

Our marching band is lame and does not compete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Asian. I know many asian families enroll their kids at age 5 or earlier for piano, and then violin. I think I am the odd one. My kids are 5 and 9 with no music background that means they can't read music sheets. I wonder if it is too late for them to learn now just for fun, possibly joining band or orchestra if they decide to go further one day. I don't want to spend too much money in private 1:1, but I doubt if group lessons work or not for real. 5 year old wants to learn piano, and 9 year old is interested in drum or guitar for rock.

It used to be considered part of being a well educated MC person to know how to read music, for white Americans, but that seems to be an old fashioned idea nowadays. My kids took piano lessons in order to learn to read music. One stuck with piano, one didn't. They both play other instruments now, also.

Real MC cannot afford lessons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Asian. I know many asian families enroll their kids at age 5 or earlier for piano, and then violin. I think I am the odd one. My kids are 5 and 9 with no music background that means they can't read music sheets. I wonder if it is too late for them to learn now just for fun, possibly joining band or orchestra if they decide to go further one day. I don't want to spend too much money in private 1:1, but I doubt if group lessons work or not for real. 5 year old wants to learn piano, and 9 year old is interested in drum or guitar for rock.

It used to be considered part of being a well educated MC person to know how to read music, for white Americans, but that seems to be an old fashioned idea nowadays. My kids took piano lessons in order to learn to read music. One stuck with piano, one didn't. They both play other instruments now, also.

Real MC cannot afford lessons.

Sure you can, it you prioritize it. If you don't, then you can't.