LGBTQI youth after election

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If there is an increase in suicides it’s because of hysterical libs putting fear in people telling them they are going to get “rounded up” and put into camps.

You are not paying attention or you are gaslighting. Stop blaming the side that didn't vote for him for the things he is actually saying and doing. And it isn't just him. He has emboldened a lot of crazy people to act on their hate for the LGBTQI+. And when those people act, you will say it wasn't his fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there is an increase in suicides it’s because of hysterical libs putting fear in people telling them they are going to get “rounded up” and put into camps.

You are not paying attention or you are gaslighting. Stop blaming the side that didn't vote for him for the things he is actually saying and doing. And it isn't just him. He has emboldened a lot of crazy people to act on their hate for the LGBTQI+. And when those people act, you will say it wasn't his fault.

What is he actually doing?

[Anonymous]

"The former president in 2022 promised to sign several executive orders intended to combat “left-wing gender insanity” in the U.S. if he is reelected, including an order instructing federal agencies to cease programs that “promote” the concept that a person can transition to a different gender."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4936727-trump-bans-transgender-athletes/

Trump also said he would reverse Biden's transgender student protections “on day one” of his presidency. Those Title IX regulations cover discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in schools and education programs but DO NOT apply to athletics.

So stop saying this is JUST about sports -- it's not sports at all. Repeating: Biden's order did NOT apply to athletics.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/bidens-new-title-ix-rules-protect-lgbtq-students-trans-sports-rule-sti-rcna148537

[Anonymous]

Trump has appointed gay people to multiple major positions in his Administration. The Secretary of the Treasury (one of the big three cabinet positions) is gay. The head of the FTC is gay. Richard Grenfell, major foreign policy position, is gay. These are all out gay men with husbands. Stop being alarmist about homophobia where it doesn’t exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump has appointed gay people to multiple major positions in his Administration. The Secretary of the Treasury (one of the big three cabinet positions) is gay. The head of the FTC is gay. Richard Grenfell, major foreign policy position, is gay. These are all out gay men with husbands. Stop being alarmist about homophobia where it doesn’t exist.

Well this assurance that we we all alarmists didn’t age well for trans/non-binary folks, now did it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My mid-twenties lesbian daughter is heartbroken by the election (as am I). Obviously, I support her 100%, but I can’t lie and say things are going to be fine for LGBTQI of any age. It’s not going to make her feel better to know that other segments of the population will suffer also. She grew up after Obergefell and had a vision of her life as a normal one - being able to be public about having a girlfriend, maybe getting married or having kids one day. Now that seems like it will disappear. This election she has already experienced harassment from men based on her sexuality. It seems like they are emboldened.

What are you saying to your kids? How are you supporting them. What are you able to offer them as hopeful in their future? How are people going to fight to protect them, especially if Trump ends up with all 3 branches? How do we protect them against that power?

I’m a gay man in my late 40s. I came out in the 1990s. I’ve been here before. Your daughter needs to make sure that she lives in an accepting and safe place. A liberal city, in a liberal state. Suburban Virginia isn’t going to cut it. We live in DC proper and are rich white men. We’ll see how things play out but our back up plan is moving to Boston.

Suburban VA lesbian says hi. I have no idea what you are talking about. My partner and I feel happy and safe here and I don’t see that changing. We aren’t blue haired loons though.

Of course you do, he was just sworn in today. Come back in a year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has appointed gay people to multiple major positions in his Administration. The Secretary of the Treasury (one of the big three cabinet positions) is gay. The head of the FTC is gay. Richard Grenfell, major foreign policy position, is gay. These are all out gay men with husbands. Stop being alarmist about homophobia where it doesn’t exist.

Well this assurance that we we all alarmists didn’t age well for trans/non-binary folks, now did it?

They were only talking about gay men. Not gay men and definitely not trans people. How many trans people will Trump hire? Will it even be a number greater than zero? I doubt it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has appointed gay people to multiple major positions in his Administration. The Secretary of the Treasury (one of the big three cabinet positions) is gay. The head of the FTC is gay. Richard Grenfell, major foreign policy position, is gay. These are all out gay men with husbands. Stop being alarmist about homophobia where it doesn’t exist.

Well this assurance that we we all alarmists didn’t age well for trans/non-binary folks, now did it?

Maybe it's time to acknowledge the LGBT+whatever alphabet needs to be retired. World of difference between gays and lesbians and the trans/non binary. Not that much in common when you get down to it. Aren't the progressives the ones who keep insisting sex and gender are two different things? If so, then acknowledge it and stop lumping everyone in the alphabet into one acronym.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has appointed gay people to multiple major positions in his Administration. The Secretary of the Treasury (one of the big three cabinet positions) is gay. The head of the FTC is gay. Richard Grenfell, major foreign policy position, is gay. These are all out gay men with husbands. Stop being alarmist about homophobia where it doesn’t exist.

Well this assurance that we we all alarmists didn’t age well for trans/non-binary folks, now did it?

Maybe it's time to acknowledge the LGBT+whatever alphabet needs to be retired. World of difference between gays and lesbians and the trans/non binary. Not that much in common when you get down to it. Aren't the progressives the ones who keep insisting sex and gender are two different things? If so, then acknowledge it and stop lumping everyone in the alphabet into one acronym.

Every trans person either started out as gay/lesbian or transitioned to be gay/lesbian. The majority are bisexual. I know a couple that were married last year. Two trans men married. I know many trans women date or are married to other trans women. Sexuality and gender identity are separate but being trans doesn’t exclude you from being LGB. You obviously have very limited experience with transgender people but feel like your opinions are so important that they must be heard on the LGBTQIA+ board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I appeal to people of both sides to cease fire with the fear mongering and name calling.

OP, this is not a lesbian or trans issue. This is a parenting issue, despite your daughter being a grown adult. Life happens, not everything goes your way and your daughter is looking for some direction from you. Separate the hate from the politics. There are hateful people on both sides, regardless of who is President. It is NOT because of politics.

What should you say to your daughter? You are young. That is a HUGE asset that we old people don't have. Live your life! This too shall pass! Be the change that you want to see!

There are so many ways to give young people hope. I can only hope that you find some too!

The rhetoric at the top matters, as do policies. The hateful language incites others and normalizes version viewpoints and opinions. Just like demonizing immigrants and POC. It's disingenuous to say otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has appointed gay people to multiple major positions in his Administration. The Secretary of the Treasury (one of the big three cabinet positions) is gay. The head of the FTC is gay. Richard Grenfell, major foreign policy position, is gay. These are all out gay men with husbands. Stop being alarmist about homophobia where it doesn’t exist.

Well this assurance that we we all alarmists didn’t age well for trans/non-binary folks, now did it?

Maybe it's time to acknowledge the LGBT+whatever alphabet needs to be retired. World of difference between gays and lesbians and the trans/non binary. Not that much in common when you get down to it. Aren't the progressives the ones who keep insisting sex and gender are two different things? If so, then acknowledge it and stop lumping everyone in the alphabet into one acronym.

Every trans person either started out as gay/lesbian or transitioned to be gay/lesbian. The majority are bisexual. I know a couple that were married last year. Two trans men married. I know many trans women date or are married to other trans women. Sexuality and gender identity are separate but being trans doesn’t exclude you from being LGB. You obviously have very limited experience with transgender people but feel like your opinions are so important that they must be heard on the LGBTQIA+ board.

You just proved the point. Trans are not the only group in that alphabet. It's just one out of at least seven letters yet they seem to dominate the entire conversation around sexual identities. Plenty of gays and lesbians are skeptical of trans. And there's far more of them then trans. If you knew gays and lesbians, which I do, you'd know this.

[Anonymous]

Bartlebythescrivener wrote:What do you think is going to happen to her. I'm liberal, but have many conservative friends and associates. None of them talk about trans issues, much less harass them. I've honestly never even heard of anyone who is trans, much less a normal lesbian being messed with in any way. This reminds me of looney conservatives thinking Obama was going to take their guns and bible.

You are delusional. The minute that orange creep was elected the first time, kids at my kids hs were calling the immigrants and minorities every horrible name in the book. The orange creep has emboldened the lowest, most dangerous of his minions to attack those they don't like. It happens everywhere now. My kids were threatened at our hotel when we were in Fl for a funeral because they were wearing masks. His minions are often violent.

You clearly live in a bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I appeal to people of both sides to cease fire with the fear mongering and name calling.

OP, this is not a lesbian or trans issue. This is a parenting issue, despite your daughter being a grown adult. Life happens, not everything goes your way and your daughter is looking for some direction from you. Separate the hate from the politics. There are hateful people on both sides, regardless of who is President. It is NOT because of politics.

What should you say to your daughter? You are young. That is a HUGE asset that we old people don't have. Live your life! This too shall pass! Be the change that you want to see!

There are so many ways to give young people hope. I can only hope that you find some too!

The rhetoric at the top matters, as do policies. The hateful language incites others and normalizes version viewpoints and opinions. Just like demonizing immigrants and POC. It's disingenuous to say otherwise.

100%. Remember the creep in charge mocked a person with disabilities too. He has normalized horrible behaviour and has incited violence. You're a liar if you are pretending otherwise.

[Anonymous]

You will always get bigoted responses on DCUM about transgender people. I’d urge any parents or loved ones of trans people to look for safer spaces than this one to talk. You might start with the Mama Bears or Mama Dragons group (which is also not on Facebook anymore, so bonus).