High divorce rate among lesbians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, this is false, because people don’t understand statistics.

Lesbians have a much higher divorce rate than gay men…

…but it’s still less than the divorce rate of heterosexual couples. Denmark is highest at 23%.

We can stop arguing about a “fact” that is made-up.

No, lesbians have a significantly higher divorce rate than heterosexual couples. See for example:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/03631990221122966

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We haven’t had widespread gay marriage that long, and I don’t know enough about how married lesbians vary from the hetero marrieds. What happens if you control for age, education, children, income, geography, stuff like that?

OP has no time for that except to make some kind of weird conclusion.

They also would need to control for religion. There is a whole group of heteros that won’t divorce because they belong to conservative branches of the major religions. There are basically no gay married couples in those groups, so it will skew the comparison unless you remove them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We haven’t had widespread gay marriage that long, and I don’t know enough about how married lesbians vary from the hetero marrieds. What happens if you control for age, education, children, income, geography, stuff like that?

Again - plenty of sociological research to be done on this fascinating phenomenon.

Women divorce each other at significantly higher rates, while men infrequently divorce their husbands; heterosexual divorce rates lie in between.

Why is this so?

Women just care about marital status and defining relationships a lot more than men do. Women push for marriage. When they get married they don’t really cheat or engage in super time consuming hobbies nearly as frequently as men do. When the marriage is having problems, they push for some kind of counseling. If they continue having problems, they file for divorce.

Social relationships are more important to women for a number of reasons. Some of it is biological. Women have higher levels of estrogen and oxytocin. Some of it is social. When you have less power in society as an individual, social relationships are much more important and are needed for survival. It’s more important for women to follow the ‘rules’ than it is for men.

Men generally care less about relationship status, are less interested and take longer to decide to get married, cheat or otherwise act single with much higher frequency, and are less likely to initiate divorce.

While I reject most of what you wrote on account of obvious gender-bias, the part in bold is a fact. It may be an inconvenient fact, but a fact nonetheless.

We agree that sex-hormones are a major contributing factor in this discussion (comparative divorce rates).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We haven’t had widespread gay marriage that long, and I don’t know enough about how married lesbians vary from the hetero marrieds. What happens if you control for age, education, children, income, geography, stuff like that?

Again - plenty of sociological research to be done on this fascinating phenomenon.

Women divorce each other at significantly higher rates, while men infrequently divorce their husbands; heterosexual divorce rates lie in between.

Why is this so?

Women just care about marital status and defining relationships a lot more than men do. Women push for marriage. When they get married they don’t really cheat or engage in super time consuming hobbies nearly as frequently as men do. When the marriage is having problems, they push for some kind of counseling. If they continue having problems, they file for divorce.

Social relationships are more important to women for a number of reasons. Some of it is biological. Women have higher levels of estrogen and oxytocin. Some of it is social. When you have less power in society as an individual, social relationships are much more important and are needed for survival. It’s more important for women to follow the ‘rules’ than it is for men.

Men generally care less about relationship status, are less interested and take longer to decide to get married, cheat or otherwise act single with much higher frequency, and are less likely to initiate divorce.

Did you even read the OP? Everything you just said about women is contradicted by the lesbian divorce rate.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We haven’t had widespread gay marriage that long, and I don’t know enough about how married lesbians vary from the hetero marrieds. What happens if you control for age, education, children, income, geography, stuff like that?

OP has no time for that except to make some kind of weird conclusion.

They also would need to control for religion. There is a whole group of heteros that won’t divorce because they belong to conservative branches of the major religions. There are basically no gay married couples in those groups, so it will skew the comparison unless you remove them.

NP.

Fair point.

It would also be an interesting scientific experiment to compare this phenomenon in the U.S. vs the E.U., and even other countries (except for Iran, where even being gay can result in the death penalty, and where - according to the Ayatollah’s- homosexuality does not exist).

[Anonymous]

Women can't stand other women and that's breaking news lol.

Imagine how difficult it is for a man to deal with a woman I can't imagine 2 women dealing with each other romantically

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, the stereotypical gay man seems like a pretty good roommate: clean and fairly easy to live with. Basically, living with a gay man seems like living with a straight woman.

In contrast, the stereotypical gay woman is kind of aggressive and 50/50 might be bringing kids into the marriage. That’s going to be a lot harder to make work.

You are just making things up about gay women being considered aggressive.
I am man and never heard of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We haven’t had widespread gay marriage that long, and I don’t know enough about how married lesbians vary from the hetero marrieds. What happens if you control for age, education, children, income, geography, stuff like that?

Again - plenty of sociological research to be done on this fascinating phenomenon.

Women divorce each other at significantly higher rates, while men infrequently divorce their husbands; heterosexual divorce rates lie in between.

Why is this so?

Women just care about marital status and defining relationships a lot more than men do. Women push for marriage. When they get married they don’t really cheat or engage in super time consuming hobbies nearly as frequently as men do. When the marriage is having problems, they push for some kind of counseling. If they continue having problems, they file for divorce.

Social relationships are more important to women for a number of reasons. Some of it is biological. Women have higher levels of estrogen and oxytocin. Some of it is social. When you have less power in society as an individual, social relationships are much more important and are needed for survival. It’s more important for women to follow the ‘rules’ than it is for men.

Men generally care less about relationship status, are less interested and take longer to decide to get married, cheat or otherwise act single with much higher frequency, and are less likely to initiate divorce.

Did you even read the OP? Everything you just said about women is contradicted by the lesbian divorce rate.

I did read the OP.
Women just care more about marriage than men. When women are very much in love, they want to get married. When it isn’t working, they want to get divorced.
When men are in love, they want to move in together. Gay men are generally together much longer before they get married.
When things aren’t working in the relationship, men cheat, throw themselves into work, etc. They don’t tend to get divorced.

How is this contradicted by the lesbian divorce rate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We haven’t had widespread gay marriage that long, and I don’t know enough about how married lesbians vary from the hetero marrieds. What happens if you control for age, education, children, income, geography, stuff like that?

Again - plenty of sociological research to be done on this fascinating phenomenon.

Women divorce each other at significantly higher rates, while men infrequently divorce their husbands; heterosexual divorce rates lie in between.

Why is this so?

Women just care about marital status and defining relationships a lot more than men do. Women push for marriage. When they get married they don’t really cheat or engage in super time consuming hobbies nearly as frequently as men do. When the marriage is having problems, they push for some kind of counseling. If they continue having problems, they file for divorce.

Social relationships are more important to women for a number of reasons. Some of it is biological. Women have higher levels of estrogen and oxytocin. Some of it is social. When you have less power in society as an individual, social relationships are much more important and are needed for survival. It’s more important for women to follow the ‘rules’ than it is for men.

Men generally care less about relationship status, are less interested and take longer to decide to get married, cheat or otherwise act single with much higher frequency, and are less likely to initiate divorce.

Did you even read the OP? Everything you just said about women is contradicted by the lesbian divorce rate.

I did read the OP.
Women just care more about marriage than men. When women are very much in love, they want to get married. When it isn’t working, they want to get divorced.
When men are in love, they want to move in together. Gay men are generally together much longer before they get married.
When things aren’t working in the relationship, men cheat, throw themselves into work, etc. They don’t tend to get divorced.

How is this contradicted by the lesbian divorce rate?

Seems like a string of assumptions on your part, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is one of the weirdest posts I’ve seen here.

Agree. Clicked on it thinking I'd learn something new about Lesbian relationships but it turns out OP only wants to be able to blame women for relationship failure.