Recommend your awesome Golden retriever breeder. Experiene w Wonderkind White Gold in Fallston MD?

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Anonymous wrote:This rescue wants almost $700 for older dogs. They are begging for people to foster and making threats about putting a dog in a barn if no one takes him. Why can't someone in the rescue take the dog as that's what they signed up for?

https://www.somersetcottagepoodlerescue.org/?fbclid=IwY2xjawGD0hNleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHfth4HRvboxAwIM4voktpuZCdJfRaPZNQp-iBzfN8rzg6EOcCM5XkPIXVQ_aem_q9r02tEAJM-jbHkkwTYK1A

Our breeder wasn't that much more and for a puppy, not 8-12 year old dog.

Exactly! A lot of rescues are scams. Always interesting to look at their taxes and see how much they pay their “officers,” and how much free travel the people take.

Whats gross is this rescue is posting all over facebook demanding someone take a dog for a week while the foster family is away or threatening to board it or put it in a barn - what does that mean to put it in a barn? The rescue owner should take that dog home as she's the one who committed to the care and profiting from the sale of the dog. Putting that dog with anyone without any check is neglectful.

[Anonymous]

Our very good friends have a dog from Wonderkind White Gold in Fallston. When they go on vacation, we beg to dog-sit their dog. Lol. That's how incredibly wonderful, gentle, and well-trained their dog is. Seriously. I know the name of the breeder because we asked for it. When we are finally ready to get a dog of our own we will definitely consider them.

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Hillock Goldens in Pennsylvania.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

Me again- and if you don’t believe me, read this article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/investigations/dog-auction-rescue-groups-donations/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

Do what’s best for you. We got a purebred akc registered. No regrets.

[Anonymous]

OP, if you're still reading this train wreck of a thread, I did a lot of research on golden breeders. The absolute best one I found was Golden Soul in PA. It is super hard to get one of their puppies, and they don't have litters that often. But they work very hard to breed out any problems. And their dogs are stunning.

They're on FB with lots of photos and I'm pretty sure they have a website.

Also, do your research. There are show dogs and more true hunt retrievers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

+1. One of my biggest pet peeves is people asking if a dog is a rescue immediately when they meet it. I'm opposed to puppy mills of course, but before we got our dog, we did research into shelters, and to "rescue" a dog felt like we had to jump through hoops and sign our life away. All for a dog that we're not 100% what their history, temperament and reasons for being given up are. If you want to rescue, I support it 100%, but going after the people who do their research and decide a reputable breeder is best for them and their family seems wrong on so many levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

+1. One of my biggest pet peeves is people asking if a dog is a rescue immediately when they meet it. I'm opposed to puppy mills of course, but before we got our dog, we did research into shelters, and to "rescue" a dog felt like we had to jump through hoops and sign our life away. All for a dog that we're not 100% what their history, temperament and reasons for being given up are. If you want to rescue, I support it 100%, but going after the people who do their research and decide a reputable breeder is best for them and their family seems wrong on so many levels.

Ignore them. I have no issue saying I got my designer dog from a great breeder.

[Anonymous]

US goldens have the highest cancer rates of any purebred in this country. 60% of them die of cancer! People have gone to Europe for goldens because the breeding stock here is so contaminated.

https://www.parsemus.org/2024/02/advances-in-understanding-cancer-in-dogs-hemangiosarcoma-in-golden-retrievers/#:~:text=The%20Golden%20Retriever%20is%20especially,of%20cancer%20in%20the%20breed.

https://www.imprimedicine.com/blog/golden-retrievers

Goldens are not the same dog your husband had as a kid. You have to do your research and know what you're looking for, or you are setting yourself up for extremely expensive health care and heartbreak.

I'm not opposed to responsible breeders -- I have a purebred Lab and did my due diligence on OFA and other health certifications, because Labs are also prone to certain disorders as a result of inbreeding. But they're nowhere close to how bad goldens are.

AKC means nothing. You have to do a deep dive into OFA and

[Anonymous]

If all this breeding stops, perhaps a dog could live out a lifetime. Goldens are notorious for hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma, and osteosarcima. Guess why. If you use a breeder, especially for a GR, you are perpetuating the serious problem.

Just stop. STOP. There are millions of wonderful dogs at rescues, the pound, humane societies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US goldens have the highest cancer rates of any purebred in this country. 60% of them die of cancer! People have gone to Europe for goldens because the breeding stock here is so contaminated.

https://www.parsemus.org/2024/02/advances-in-understanding-cancer-in-dogs-hemangiosarcoma-in-golden-retrievers/#:~:text=The%20Golden%20Retriever%20is%20especially,of%20cancer%20in%20the%20breed.

https://www.imprimedicine.com/blog/golden-retrievers

Goldens are not the same dog your husband had as a kid. You have to do your research and know what you're looking for, or you are setting yourself up for extremely expensive health care and heartbreak.

I'm not opposed to responsible breeders -- I have a purebred Lab and did my due diligence on OFA and other health certifications, because Labs are also prone to certain disorders as a result of inbreeding. But they're nowhere close to how bad goldens are.

AKC means nothing. You have to do a deep dive into OFA and

There is no such thing as responsible breeders, and particularly with Goldens, but with all bred dogs. This is why we have the staggering amount of canine cancers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please don’t say you’re “ adopting “ a dog if you’re getting a dog from a breeder.
Adopting is for dogs that need homes in shelters, rescue groups, foster homes etc.
You want to buy a dog and therein support the mass breeding of puppies for profit. They are not one and the same.

Whatever happened to respecting people's choices just as you would want them to respect the choices you make? I'm so tired of the holier than thou rescue dog crowd looking down at people who go to reputable breeders, not puppy mills and do all of the proper research and vetting.

There are responsible breeders out there who are not the same as puppy mills. Not everyone wants to roll the dice on a "rescue" that may or may not be suited for their family. Many of these dogs are fine, but have behavioral issues or anxiety issues from the stressful situations they were removed from and may not be appropriate for children, elders people, etc.

OP, you get the dog that is best for you and your family.

Agree (and I have two mixed breeds from a rescue). Sanctimony doesn’t change anyone’s mind.

Dp. Well how are you going to convince people it is better to adopt? If we keep quiet than the problwm will never go away.

Pure bred dogs also have problems as well. Since they aren't robots.

You’re not going to convince people. Someone who wants to rescue will do that. And someone who wants to buy from a breeder will do that. The “problem” is the puppy mills. You are better off spending your energy on efforts to shut the mills down (by contacting legislators? I’m not sure). Attempting to shame your neighbors and friends isn’t going to work. The only thing you’ll accomplish is alienating them.

NP and Thank you!! I am sick of being shamed for wanting a dog from a reputable and respected breeder who does everything they can to secure the line of the breed. There is nothing wrong with a pure breed dog. The problem is puppy mills. Which by the way, where do you think a lot of those “rescue” shelters get their puppies? “Adopting” is just as big of an industry (if not bigger) than breeders.

+1. One of my biggest pet peeves is people asking if a dog is a rescue immediately when they meet it. I'm opposed to puppy mills of course, but before we got our dog, we did research into shelters, and to "rescue" a dog felt like we had to jump through hoops and sign our life away. All for a dog that we're not 100% what their history, temperament and reasons for being given up are. If you want to rescue, I support it 100%, but going after the people who do their research and decide a reputable breeder is best for them and their family seems wrong on so many levels.

No such thing as a reputible breeder. At all.