TJ info sessions at MS

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!

Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Evidence, there is! Maybe it's time to trust your own eyes instead of the narrative you've been fed?

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Who said this?
I can't imagine anyone from FCPS said this.
How many TJ kids got into Ivy+ last 3 years vs the rest of FCPS?

Said worked at Gatehouse. Not a TJ teacher. It was a surprising statement to be saying at a general info meeting, but again the whole meeting had a vibe of don’t apply.

I heard from a staff member at ours that it had the same vibe. They said that only 3-4 kids would get in (strong, but not too or previously listed AAP center), so don't set hopes on getting in.

Are they getting rid of the 1.5% rule?

1.5% is not feasible; it's a farce. TJ admissions cannot expect students to meet the school’s rigorous standards when applicants from under-performing schools have only been prepared for low-level middle school academics. Even the student enrolling with lowest TJ Math 1 may not be prepared sufficiently in per-algebra, and that's on FCPS for enabling substandard middle schools without addressing quality concerns.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

The TJ program is legal and I very much support the 1.5% rule but it is NOT true that Asian enrollment is at an all time it. It is still extremely high both as a percentage of the school and in proportion to Asian students in NOVA but it was slightly higher in the classes before the reform.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Are you seriously not getting the sarcasm?

I am practically saying "aside from the blatant racism, there is no evidence of racism."

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!

Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Evidence, there is! Maybe it's time to trust your own eyes instead of the narrative you've been fed?

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I'm glad we agree, if you ignore the racism, there is no racism.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

Clearly the FCPS board only said this was all about race because it had nothing to do with race.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

The TJ program is legal and I very much support the 1.5% rule but it is NOT true that Asian enrollment is at an all time it. It is still extremely high both as a percentage of the school and in proportion to Asian students in NOVA but it was slightly higher in the classes before the reform.

I don't know if the Tj program is legal but how is it different from literacy tests, poll taxes and grandfather laws when those were first enacted? They were all facially neutral but put in place for racist reasons.
Doesn't the motive behind the change matter, especially if it yields the sort of racial consequences it set out to create?

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

The TJ program is legal and I very much support the 1.5% rule but it is NOT true that Asian enrollment is at an all time it. It is still extremely high both as a percentage of the school and in proportion to Asian students in NOVA but it was slightly higher in the classes before the reform.

Why is Asian american enrollment still significantly higher even after FCPS board gave TJ admissions a free hand to racially manipulate the class composition with admissions change?

The top quarter of TJ class enrolled in the most rigorous courses is all Asian. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

The TJ program is legal and I very much support the 1.5% rule but it is NOT true that Asian enrollment is at an all time it. It is still extremely high both as a percentage of the school and in proportion to Asian students in NOVA but it was slightly higher in the classes before the reform.

There are posts on this board that show that it is at a historic high. This was using public data and is indisputable.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

The TJ program is legal and I very much support the 1.5% rule but it is NOT true that Asian enrollment is at an all time it. It is still extremely high both as a percentage of the school and in proportion to Asian students in NOVA but it was slightly higher in the classes before the reform.

Why is Asian american enrollment still significantly higher even after FCPS board gave TJ admissions a free hand to racially manipulate the class composition with admissions change?

The top quarter of TJ class enrolled in the most rigorous courses is all Asian. Why?

It really I sn't. Asians are admitted at a direct proportion to the number of applicants. It is within a few percent of all other groups. A better question might be why are Asians so much more interested in TJ than other groups.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

The TJ program is legal and I very much support the 1.5% rule but it is NOT true that Asian enrollment is at an all time it. It is still extremely high both as a percentage of the school and in proportion to Asian students in NOVA but it was slightly higher in the classes before the reform.

Why is Asian american enrollment still significantly higher even after FCPS board gave TJ admissions a free hand to racially manipulate the class composition with admissions change?

The top quarter of TJ class enrolled in the most rigorous courses is all Asian. Why?

It really I sn't. Asians are admitted at a direct proportion to the number of applicants. It is within a few percent of all other groups. A better question might be why are Asians so much more interested in TJ than other groups.

FCPS conceals applicant acceptance rate by race since admissions change. What are they afraid of?

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!

Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Evidence, there is! Maybe it's time to trust your own eyes instead of the narrative you've been fed?

You really seem to be struggling with PP's obviously sarcastic tone.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!



Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all!

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous. Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.

The TJ program is legal and I very much support the 1.5% rule but it is NOT true that Asian enrollment is at an all time it. It is still extremely high both as a percentage of the school and in proportion to Asian students in NOVA but it was slightly higher in the classes before the reform.

There are posts on this board that show that it is at a historic high. This was using public data and is indisputable.

The asian population is 100 students smaller now than in the year before the change despite the school having over 200 more students.