TJ info sessions at MS

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Who said this?
I can't imagine anyone from FCPS said this.
How many TJ kids got into Ivy+ last 3 years vs the rest of FCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Who said this?
I can't imagine anyone from FCPS said this.
How many TJ kids got into Ivy+ last 3 years vs the rest of FCPS?

Said worked at Gatehouse. Not a TJ teacher. It was a surprising statement to be saying at a general info meeting, but again the whole meeting had a vibe of don’t apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People with agenda can visit top schools and "discourage" all they want as part of outreach. Yet, well over half a thousand from top schools apply, and a third of them get accepted and equal number get put on waiting list. After all, FCPS STEM talent is overwhelmingly nurtured in Carson, Cooper, Longfellow, and Rocky Run.

Instead of engaging in deceptive outreach practices, why can FCPS nurture STEM talent in low performing schools, before tricking a couple of their students to join the bottom segment at TJ?

They don't care as long as the admitted class looks like a benetton ad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

Are you the same poster saying that they are begging for applications from the traditional feeders to keep the SAT scores high? Make up your mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

Are you the same poster saying that they are begging for applications from the traditional feeders to keep the SAT scores high? Make up your mind.

They enjoy spreading these false rumors with no basis in fact.

[Anonymous]

It's not clear what you all are arguing about.

However, it appears TJ admissions cannot compose a class by overwhelmingly admitting students from bottom low performing schools, but instead depends on the top four middle schools to overwhelmingly fill the top one third of the class. Based on last four years of admission offers, is this true or false?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not clear what you all are arguing about.

However, it appears TJ admissions cannot compose a class by overwhelmingly admitting students from bottom low performing schools, but instead depends on the top four middle schools to overwhelmingly fill the top one third of the class. Based on last four years of admission offers, is this true or false?

I don't know about the "top 1/3" bit but they do rely on 4 schools to fill 1/3 of the seats.
They are not getting the best and brightest from carson, longfellow, and especially not rocky run (where going to TJ seems to largely be a matter of who is willing to commute an hour each way every day for high school).
You can't really predict where the top kids will come from but you can predict where the kids at the bottom will be from. The kids getting in from quota schools are much more likely to be in the bottom third of the class.
They are much more likely to return to their base school.
And the tragedy is that if they applied a merit filter, they would be better able to identify kids at those base schools that are more academically prepared to handle a place like TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Who said this?
I can't imagine anyone from FCPS said this.
How many TJ kids got into Ivy+ last 3 years vs the rest of FCPS?

Said worked at Gatehouse. Not a TJ teacher. It was a surprising statement to be saying at a general info meeting, but again the whole meeting had a vibe of don’t apply.

I heard from a staff member at ours that it had the same vibe. They said that only 3-4 kids would get in (strong, but not too or previously listed AAP center), so don't set hopes on getting in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons. That is not a “paranoid delusion.” That is a fact.

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages. You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ. But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!!

Evidence, there is!

Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools.

Who said this?
I can't imagine anyone from FCPS said this.
How many TJ kids got into Ivy+ last 3 years vs the rest of FCPS?

Said worked at Gatehouse. Not a TJ teacher. It was a surprising statement to be saying at a general info meeting, but again the whole meeting had a vibe of don’t apply.

I heard from a staff member at ours that it had the same vibe. They said that only 3-4 kids would get in (strong, but not too or previously listed AAP center), so don't set hopes on getting in.

Are they getting rid of the 1.5% rule?