Failing at having kids share a room

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*rub not run

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Anonymous wrote:I’m dealing with this (sort of) only opposite - I need my older two to share a room and my oldest wakes up realllly early. I have no suggestions, sigh.

Push back bed time for the elder

We have tried. He could go to sleep at midnight and still wake up at 6. His body has an actual alarm at 6 on the dot (if not earlier).

I researched this regarding my early sleeper and apparently anything after 6 is normal and there's not much you can do about it

Most very little kids (three and under) are early birds. People try to put their kids to bed later to have them wake up later and it doesn’t really work. The kid just ends up sleep deprived. Kids who go to bed early wake early, and kids who go to bed late wake up early too.

You suck it up and get up early with them until they outgrow it.

Mine never has.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m dealing with this (sort of) only opposite - I need my older two to share a room and my oldest wakes up realllly early. I have no suggestions, sigh.

Push back bed time for the elder

We have tried. He could go to sleep at midnight and still wake up at 6. His body has an actual alarm at 6 on the dot (if not earlier).

I researched this regarding my early sleeper and apparently anything after 6 is normal and there's not much you can do about it

Most very little kids (three and under) are early birds. People try to put their kids to bed later to have them wake up later and it doesn’t really work. The kid just ends up sleep deprived. Kids who go to bed early wake early, and kids who go to bed late wake up early too.

You suck it up and get up early with them until they outgrow it.

I just left my kids in their cribs until a more palpable hour (6:30-7am) and eventually they just started sleeping until then. If they got fussy prior, I’d go in with the light still off, act very groggy, given them a run and a paci and tell them it was still sleeping time. We also had blackout curtains and sound machines and really good overnight diapers.

I did the same thing with my early riser and she's now 10 and still gets up well before 7 (sometimes in the 5s) most days. My nephew was like that into high school! But with my kid she learned to hang out until it was time to get up. She's an introvert, so it's no big deal and hasn't been - she enjoys the time.

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Don’t give them attention and definitely don’t give them screens when they wake too early. You don’t want to create an incentive to wake up then. You want it to seem boring and pointless to be awake at 5:30am.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m dealing with this (sort of) only opposite - I need my older two to share a room and my oldest wakes up realllly early. I have no suggestions, sigh.

Push back bed time for the elder

We have tried. He could go to sleep at midnight and still wake up at 6. His body has an actual alarm at 6 on the dot (if not earlier).

I researched this regarding my early sleeper and apparently anything after 6 is normal and there's not much you can do about it

Most very little kids (three and under) are early birds. People try to put their kids to bed later to have them wake up later and it doesn’t really work. The kid just ends up sleep deprived. Kids who go to bed early wake early, and kids who go to bed late wake up early too.

You suck it up and get up early with them until they outgrow it.

I just left my kids in their cribs until a more palpable hour (6:30-7am) and eventually they just started sleeping until then. If they got fussy prior, I’d go in with the light still off, act very groggy, given them a run and a paci and tell them it was still sleeping time. We also had blackout curtains and sound machines and really good overnight diapers.

Yep, this has been my approach until now. I didn’t deal with this the first time around so it’s been surprising to me that it hasn’t worked given that we spent three months with total consistency not going in before 7 to get him up. Capping the nap at an hour yesterday didn’t work, and he was up at 5:30 on the dot.

We tried pushing his first nap a bit later until 10am today, and the second nap until 3 to see if maybe he can shift everything forward a bit. Playing whack a mole!

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Anonymous wrote:In this scenario I would put the baby in my room so as to let the 3yo get enough sleep.

+1

Or just get the baby as soon as it wakes up. 5:30am is not abnormal for an infant. You sound very rigid for that young age of baby.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m dealing with this (sort of) only opposite - I need my older two to share a room and my oldest wakes up realllly early. I have no suggestions, sigh.

Push back bed time for the elder

We have tried. He could go to sleep at midnight and still wake up at 6. His body has an actual alarm at 6 on the dot (if not earlier).

I researched this regarding my early sleeper and apparently anything after 6 is normal and there's not much you can do about it

Most very little kids (three and under) are early birds. People try to put their kids to bed later to have them wake up later and it doesn’t really work. The kid just ends up sleep deprived. Kids who go to bed early wake early, and kids who go to bed late wake up early too.

You suck it up and get up early with them until they outgrow it.

I just left my kids in their cribs until a more palpable hour (6:30-7am) and eventually they just started sleeping until then. If they got fussy prior, I’d go in with the light still off, act very groggy, given them a run and a paci and tell them it was still sleeping time. We also had blackout curtains and sound machines and really good overnight diapers.

Yep, this has been my approach until now. I didn’t deal with this the first time around so it’s been surprising to me that it hasn’t worked given that we spent three months with total consistency not going in before 7 to get him up. Capping the nap at an hour yesterday didn’t work, and he was up at 5:30 on the dot.

We tried pushing his first nap a bit later until 10am today, and the second nap until 3 to see if maybe he can shift everything forward a bit. Playing whack a mole!

If you are moving sleep times, don't forget to move meals! That's the number one suggestion when changing timezones or DST/non-DST with kids: if you move meals it helps sleep move too.

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Why on earth did you ever think this would work!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m dealing with this (sort of) only opposite - I need my older two to share a room and my oldest wakes up realllly early. I have no suggestions, sigh.

Push back bed time for the elder

We have tried. He could go to sleep at midnight and still wake up at 6. His body has an actual alarm at 6 on the dot (if not earlier).

I researched this regarding my early sleeper and apparently anything after 6 is normal and there's not much you can do about it

Most very little kids (three and under) are early birds. People try to put their kids to bed later to have them wake up later and it doesn’t really work. The kid just ends up sleep deprived. Kids who go to bed early wake early, and kids who go to bed late wake up early too.

You suck it up and get up early with them until they outgrow it.

I just left my kids in their cribs until a more palpable hour (6:30-7am) and eventually they just started sleeping until then. If they got fussy prior, I’d go in with the light still off, act very groggy, given them a run and a paci and tell them it was still sleeping time. We also had blackout curtains and sound machines and really good overnight diapers.

Yep, this has been my approach until now. I didn’t deal with this the first time around so it’s been surprising to me that it hasn’t worked given that we spent three months with total consistency not going in before 7 to get him up. Capping the nap at an hour yesterday didn’t work, and he was up at 5:30 on the dot.

We tried pushing his first nap a bit later until 10am today, and the second nap until 3 to see if maybe he can shift everything forward a bit. Playing whack a mole!

Just FYI with sleep shifts/schedule shifts it takes two weeks or more to know if it "worked" or not. I wouldn't expect it to work in one day. But that 5:30am wakeup is going to become a 4:30am wakeup with the time change in about 6 weeks so just keep that in mind.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m dealing with this (sort of) only opposite - I need my older two to share a room and my oldest wakes up realllly early. I have no suggestions, sigh.

Push back bed time for the elder

We have tried. He could go to sleep at midnight and still wake up at 6. His body has an actual alarm at 6 on the dot (if not earlier).

I researched this regarding my early sleeper and apparently anything after 6 is normal and there's not much you can do about it

Most very little kids (three and under) are early birds. People try to put their kids to bed later to have them wake up later and it doesn’t really work. The kid just ends up sleep deprived. Kids who go to bed early wake early, and kids who go to bed late wake up early too.

You suck it up and get up early with them until they outgrow it.

I just left my kids in their cribs until a more palpable hour (6:30-7am) and eventually they just started sleeping until then. If they got fussy prior, I’d go in with the light still off, act very groggy, given them a run and a paci and tell them it was still sleeping time. We also had blackout curtains and sound machines and really good overnight diapers.

Yep, this has been my approach until now. I didn’t deal with this the first time around so it’s been surprising to me that it hasn’t worked given that we spent three months with total consistency not going in before 7 to get him up. Capping the nap at an hour yesterday didn’t work, and he was up at 5:30 on the dot.

We tried pushing his first nap a bit later until 10am today, and the second nap until 3 to see if maybe he can shift everything forward a bit. Playing whack a mole!

Just FYI with sleep shifts/schedule shifts it takes two weeks or more to know if it "worked" or not. I wouldn't expect it to work in one day. But that 5:30am wakeup is going to become a 4:30am wakeup with the time change in about 6 weeks so just keep that in mind.

Definitely. That’s been looking in the back of my mind. Thanks to the other poster who suggested shifting meals too!

My condolences to the older kids who are still doing this too. We’re all in this together!

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Babies and children are people, too. They have differences and preferences. Not all babies need to or can sleep for 12 hours at night. OP, I think you need to accept your kids are different and one is a baby. It’s totally normal for a baby to wake at 5:30. You should not make it your 3 year old’s problem. Put baby in your room and you and partner rotate who has to get up with baby while the other wears ear plugs.

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Anonymous wrote:In this scenario I would put the baby in my room so as to let the 3yo get enough sleep.

+1

Also I would not let the 8 month old take such long naps during the day, that way they will go to bed at night feeling sleepier and more likely sleep until a reasonable wake up time. That doesn't mean no naps during the day, just not as much.

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In your shoes I would probably put the crib in my bedroom (until I could afford a bigger place) and call it a day. No, it’s not sustainable to have sleep-deprived children. Our boys share a room and it’s great but we didn’t make that transition until our youngest turned 3.5.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m dealing with this (sort of) only opposite - I need my older two to share a room and my oldest wakes up realllly early. I have no suggestions, sigh.

Push back bed time for the elder

We have tried. He could go to sleep at midnight and still wake up at 6. His body has an actual alarm at 6 on the dot (if not earlier).

I researched this regarding my early sleeper and apparently anything after 6 is normal and there's not much you can do about it

Most very little kids (three and under) are early birds. People try to put their kids to bed later to have them wake up later and it doesn’t really work. The kid just ends up sleep deprived. Kids who go to bed early wake early, and kids who go to bed late wake up early too.

You suck it up and get up early with them until they outgrow it.

I just left my kids in their cribs until a more palpable hour (6:30-7am) and eventually they just started sleeping until then. If they got fussy prior, I’d go in with the light still off, act very groggy, given them a run and a paci and tell them it was still sleeping time. We also had blackout curtains and sound machines and really good overnight diapers.

Ie, your kids grew out of it. No shit. Most do. Sympathies to the poster who noted that hers did not.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m dealing with this (sort of) only opposite - I need my older two to share a room and my oldest wakes up realllly early. I have no suggestions, sigh.

Push back bed time for the elder

We have tried. He could go to sleep at midnight and still wake up at 6. His body has an actual alarm at 6 on the dot (if not earlier).

I researched this regarding my early sleeper and apparently anything after 6 is normal and there's not much you can do about it

Most very little kids (three and under) are early birds. People try to put their kids to bed later to have them wake up later and it doesn’t really work. The kid just ends up sleep deprived. Kids who go to bed early wake early, and kids who go to bed late wake up early too.

You suck it up and get up early with them until they outgrow it.

I just left my kids in their cribs until a more palpable hour (6:30-7am) and eventually they just started sleeping until then. If they got fussy prior, I’d go in with the light still off, act very groggy, given them a run and a paci and tell them it was still sleeping time. We also had blackout curtains and sound machines and really good overnight diapers.

Ie, your kids grew out of it. No shit. Most do. Sympathies to the poster who noted that hers did not.

A lot of kids don’t because their parents let them wake up and watch tv or play with toys or have parental attention. I know a ton of parents that allow tv on weekend mornings so the parents can sleep and they are shocked how early the kids wake up for tv time.