Do you submit AP scores of 4 to top20 schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

This. Very few kids in DD’s private school take AP exams because there are honors classes only, which are not aligned with AP exams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.
I have kids (twins) at two different NYC privates. One school's college counselor says to submit the 4s, regardless of subject and planned major. The other says to not submit 4's especially if they're in the subject matter that the kid is hoping to study (i.e. a STEM kid should only submit STEM 5s).

I have a kid who received 4's on the Physics C exams (mechanics and E&M) and was hoping to study STEM at a top school (grades and SAT (790 math) support this) but her counselor says not to submit the physics 4 scores. I think it looks weird to just not submit these scores. UGH.

Your instinct is right. It also signals that the exam was either not taken or a 3,2,1 grade. I would definitely include the 4.

Agree. The schools know your kid took the exam and looks bad not to submit, especially coming from a NYC private. Submit all 4s and 5s. My DC submitted two 4s and 5 5s after junior year. Got in ED to a T10

They do not know you took an exam unless you tell them.

Agree to report all 4s and 5s.

They can see you've taken the class, so if you don't report an exam grade you were either too rubbish to take it or the result was shit.

That is a different issue. They don’t know you took the exam unless you tell them, right?

They will assume you took the exam, especially if you are at a private school that offers AP or a public school where most kids take APs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

This. Very few kids in DD’s private school take AP exams because there are honors classes only, which are not aligned with AP exams.

That is completely different. The OP I believe is talking about actual AP classes. Not honors or advanced classes at a private that doesn’t offer APs.

[Anonymous]

OP here. these are actual AP classes. they're not honors classes where the kid went on their own to take the AP exams.

The kid's classmates took the exams as well. So this factors in too.

[Anonymous]

We had a school come back and ask for DS's AP scores while they were making a decision. (His transcript showed AP classes but he'd "forgotten" to put in his scores.) They were a bunch of 5s with two 4s; his college counselor was annoyed at him for not having submitted them in the first place!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We had a school come back and ask for DS's AP scores while they were making a decision. (His transcript showed AP classes but he'd "forgotten" to put in his scores.) They were a bunch of 5s with two 4s; his college counselor was annoyed at him for not having submitted them in the first place!

that's really interesting-what school?

[Anonymous]

Kid wants to retake a 4. It’s his life.

If he gets a 5 on retake and reports the 5, is it a big problem if AP later delivers the report that shows both 4 and 5?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kid wants to retake a 4. It’s his life.

If he gets a 5 on retake and reports the 5, is it a big problem if AP later delivers the report that shows both 4 and 5?

no, why would this be a problem? He got a 5. Just don't report a 5 until he's actually received a 5.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kid wants to retake a 4. It’s his life.

If he gets a 5 on retake and reports the 5, is it a big problem if AP later delivers the report that shows both 4 and 5?

no, why would this be a problem? He got a 5. Just don't report a 5 until he's actually received a 5.

yeah, you can always cancel the 4 if 5 is actually gotten, what AP test? My kid will be retaking three 4s LOL

My question is for school like Georgetown that say report all APs taken do you have to let them know about even cancelled ones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

In cases where the transcript says the student took AP * and no score is submitted, is that an issue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kid wants to retake a 4. It’s his life.

If he gets a 5 on retake and reports the 5, is it a big problem if AP later delivers the report that shows both 4 and 5?

no, why would this be a problem? He got a 5. Just don't report a 5 until he's actually received a 5.

yeah, you can always cancel the 4 if 5 is actually gotten, what AP test? My kid will be retaking three 4s LOL

My question is for school like Georgetown that say report all APs taken do you have to let them know about even cancelled ones?

Isn’t there a deadline to cancel scores that falls before the next set of tests can be taken?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students take AP exams and don’t take the AP class. Colleges would never know the student took the exam unless the student reported it.

In cases where the transcript says the student took AP * and no score is submitted, is that an issue?

it's not great for top schools because there are plenty of students who have taken 7 AP classes and submit 7 AP scores of 5.

All things being equal on the GPA and test score front, a college is going to take this kid over a kid who took 7 AP classes and submitted 5 scores, especially if the missing scores are in a discipline they want to study. I.e. if they are applying for engineering and the Calc BC or physics C score is missing then that can be a strike against them. The readers are looking for ways to differentiate between a ton of highly qualified (and otherwise equally qualified) kids.

I have a friend who was a long term reader at at top10 school and I asked her all about the AP thing as my kid has imperfect AP scores.

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The AP score hierarchy:

-All 5s
-All 4s and 5s
-5s plus missing scores
-4s plus missing scores
-and on

[Anonymous]

I've been on tours when this is asked (do you think twice when you see an AP class but no test score?), and every time the AO says, "we really don't have time for that. 99% of the time, we wouldn't notice a "missing" exam score. And if I did, I wouldn't think much about it.

[Anonymous]

there are always "Missing" test scores because you're taking classes and exam is given after applications are in