novels and other readings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:9th grade, BCC high school. First "novel" is of the graphic variety. I am not impressed. The weakness of MCPS is in its reading and writing program. It's abysmal. STEM is done very well, on the other hand.

STEM is not done well either. No textbooks, all random handouts and hope for the best.

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Anonymous wrote:9th grade, BCC high school. First "novel" is of the graphic variety. I am not impressed. The weakness of MCPS is in its reading and writing program. It's abysmal. STEM is done very well, on the other hand.

STEM is not done well either. No textbooks, all random handouts and hope for the best.

^+1 hardly any labs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:9th grade, BCC high school. First "novel" is of the graphic variety. I am not impressed. The weakness of MCPS is in its reading and writing program. It's abysmal. STEM is done very well, on the other hand.

STEM is not done well either. No textbooks, all random handouts and hope for the best.

I'm on several teacher forums (AP teacher), and most teachers have abandoned textbooks. They use videos for the most part. They also don't understand that even though textbooks can have the occasional error, they are written by content experts (unlike worksheets typically created by teachers with no background in science.)

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Anonymous wrote:9th grade, BCC high school. First "novel" is of the graphic variety. I am not impressed. The weakness of MCPS is in its reading and writing program. It's abysmal. STEM is done very well, on the other hand.

STEM is not done well either. No textbooks, all random handouts and hope for the best.

I'm on several teacher forums (AP teacher), and most teachers have abandoned textbooks. They use videos for the most part. They also don't understand that even though textbooks can have the occasional error, they are written by content experts (unlike worksheets typically created by teachers with no background in science.)

I imagine they've abandoned textbooks because this generation of students refuses to read. What's the point of having a textbook if kids routinely "forget" to do the reading and thus slow down the pace of the class?

Generation YouTube is used to getting its programming, information and education in the form of video. Relying on text alone is "boring" for them.

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Anonymous wrote:9th grade, BCC high school. First "novel" is of the graphic variety. I am not impressed. The weakness of MCPS is in its reading and writing program. It's abysmal. STEM is done very well, on the other hand.

STEM is not done well either. No textbooks, all random handouts and hope for the best.

^+1 hardly any labs

Yeah, I was surprised at both of those aspects of my kids' high school science classes, which was very different from my experience as an MCPS high schooler.

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Anonymous wrote:9th grade, BCC high school. First "novel" is of the graphic variety. I am not impressed. The weakness of MCPS is in its reading and writing program. It's abysmal. STEM is done very well, on the other hand.

STEM is not done well either. No textbooks, all random handouts and hope for the best.

^+1 hardly any labs

Yeah, I was surprised at both of those aspects of my kids' high school science classes, which was very different from my experience as an MCPS high schooler.

"They want to take the fun out of science."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do all MS students read same novels? Who decides on titles? In MS and HS, is it differentiated by reading levels?

What's on the list this year?

My 6th grader in MCPS just got assigned her first novel- half her class got Wrinkle in Time, the other half got Hatchet. I am not sure if it was pure lottery or specific reasoning for choosing one or the other for a particular child.

My 9th grader in MCPS will be doing a Shakespeare play this year in English class - and other novels( can’t remember their names).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year my reluctant reader, who is a boy, was given the book Last Night at the Telegraph Club. He had no interest in reading a novel about a girl who realizes she is a lesbian. The teacher purposely stuck it to him even though that was his last choice of books, among other choices she offered to the class. She pushed her agenda.

Omg shut up
No one is pushing an agenda dummy
Except the Christian Nationalists trying to destroy public schools .

It’s called indoctrination ie religion get a god dammed dictionary.

everyone come see the cult member who thinks sex change operations happen in schools!

Omg your poor kid has to read … something you should do learn reading.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year my reluctant reader, who is a boy, was given the book Last Night at the Telegraph Club. He had no interest in reading a novel about a girl who realizes she is a lesbian. The teacher purposely stuck it to him even though that was his last choice of books, among other choices she offered to the class. She pushed her agenda.

You sound close minded. Reading by nature involves learning about an experience that isn't identical to our own. That you consider this pushing an agenda makes you sound bigoted.

+1 Yes, boys should only read books about boys, girls about girls, Christians should only read Christian themed books. That's what the school curriculum should mandate.

You are entirely missing the point.

Do tell us what the point is. That you would accuse a teacher of "pushing her agenda" because she had the class read a novel about a girl who is a lesbian and your son didn't want to read it because he's a boy is really offensive.

You missed the point entirely. This has to do with a kid who hates reading. If he isn’t interested in a subject like lesbians, why would you push that on him? And I would bet that most boys have absolutely NO INTEREST in reading about lesbians. Oh your outrage. Let’s be real here and stop with the virtue signaling.

You don't get assigned to read things that are identical to your interests in school. That's the point of an education. Growing up, I read a whole bunch of books that were completely unrelated to my experiences as a female growing up. That's what reading does. It's supposed to open your mind.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year my reluctant reader, who is a boy, was given the book Last Night at the Telegraph Club. He had no interest in reading a novel about a girl who realizes she is a lesbian. The teacher purposely stuck it to him even though that was his last choice of books, among other choices she offered to the class. She pushed her agenda.

You sound close minded. Reading by nature involves learning about an experience that isn't identical to our own. That you consider this pushing an agenda makes you sound bigoted.

+1 Yes, boys should only read books about boys, girls about girls, Christians should only read Christian themed books. That's what the school curriculum should mandate.

You are entirely missing the point.

Do tell us what the point is. That you would accuse a teacher of "pushing her agenda" because she had the class read a novel about a girl who is a lesbian and your son didn't want to read it because he's a boy is really offensive.

You missed the point entirely. This has to do with a kid who hates reading. If he isn’t interested in a subject like lesbians, why would you push that on him? And I would bet that most boys have absolutely NO INTEREST in reading about lesbians. Oh your outrage. Let’s be real here and stop with the virtue signaling.

You don't get assigned to read things that are identical to your interests in school. That's the point of an education. Growing up, I read a whole bunch of books that were completely unrelated to my experiences as a female growing up. That's what reading does. It's supposed to open your mind.

It’s not about pure interest. It’s about morals. Some families and cultures are greatly offended by talk about sex (for any identity). Some people still have the decency to keep their sex life private and not force minors to read explicit material.

This is VERY different than, “Oh I’m a boy I don’t like reading about girls.”

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Anonymous wrote:Last year my reluctant reader, who is a boy, was given the book Last Night at the Telegraph Club. He had no interest in reading a novel about a girl who realizes she is a lesbian. The teacher purposely stuck it to him even though that was his last choice of books, among other choices she offered to the class. She pushed her agenda.

You sound close minded. Reading by nature involves learning about an experience that isn't identical to our own. That you consider this pushing an agenda makes you sound bigoted.

+1 Yes, boys should only read books about boys, girls about girls, Christians should only read Christian themed books. That's what the school curriculum should mandate.

You are entirely missing the point.

Do tell us what the point is. That you would accuse a teacher of "pushing her agenda" because she had the class read a novel about a girl who is a lesbian and your son didn't want to read it because he's a boy is really offensive.

You missed the point entirely. This has to do with a kid who hates reading. If he isn’t interested in a subject like lesbians, why would you push that on him? And I would bet that most boys have absolutely NO INTEREST in reading about lesbians. Oh your outrage. Let’s be real here and stop with the virtue signaling.

You don't get assigned to read things that are identical to your interests in school. That's the point of an education. Growing up, I read a whole bunch of books that were completely unrelated to my experiences as a female growing up. That's what reading does. It's supposed to open your mind.

It’s not about pure interest. It’s about morals. Some families and cultures are greatly offended by talk about sex (for any identity). Some people still have the decency to keep their sex life private and not force minors to read explicit material.

This is VERY different than, “Oh I’m a boy I don’t like reading about girls.”

Do let us know the name of the book that so offended your morality so we can read it and assess how it affronts the decency of minors. I sincerely doubt that MCPS is assigning books with explicit sexual content to middle schoolers, so what appears to be offending the poster is that the book discusses same-sex romantic feelings. Can't help if some parents are bigots.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year my reluctant reader, who is a boy, was given the book Last Night at the Telegraph Club. He had no interest in reading a novel about a girl who realizes she is a lesbian. The teacher purposely stuck it to him even though that was his last choice of books, among other choices she offered to the class. She pushed her agenda.

You sound close minded. Reading by nature involves learning about an experience that isn't identical to our own. That you consider this pushing an agenda makes you sound bigoted.

+1 Yes, boys should only read books about boys, girls about girls, Christians should only read Christian themed books. That's what the school curriculum should mandate.

You are entirely missing the point.

Do tell us what the point is. That you would accuse a teacher of "pushing her agenda" because she had the class read a novel about a girl who is a lesbian and your son didn't want to read it because he's a boy is really offensive.

You missed the point entirely. This has to do with a kid who hates reading. If he isn’t interested in a subject like lesbians, why would you push that on him? And I would bet that most boys have absolutely NO INTEREST in reading about lesbians. Oh your outrage. Let’s be real here and stop with the virtue signaling.

You don't get assigned to read things that are identical to your interests in school. That's the point of an education. Growing up, I read a whole bunch of books that were completely unrelated to my experiences as a female growing up. That's what reading does. It's supposed to open your mind.

It’s not about pure interest. It’s about morals. Some families and cultures are greatly offended by talk about sex (for any identity). Some people still have the decency to keep their sex life private and not force minors to read explicit material.

This is VERY different than, “Oh I’m a boy I don’t like reading about girls.”

Do let us know the name of the book that so offended your morality so we can read it and assess how it affronts the decency of minors. I sincerely doubt that MCPS is assigning books with explicit sexual content to middle schoolers, so what appears to be offending the poster is that the book discusses same-sex romantic feelings. Can't help if some parents are bigots.

Sure. The one that this thread is talking about is what I was referring to: Last Night at the Telegraph Club, which PP said her son was forced to read.

“Lily and Kath's relationship evolves slowly from handholding to kisses that become "an indescribable ache" between Lily's legs and Kath's fingers touching her in a way that made them both gasp.”

That is just one example. I don’t want my kids reading about people fingering other people.

The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian also includes an entire chapter of masturbation.

Our society has becomes so insensitive to sex that we don’t even see why or how this is inappropriate for minors.

And before you even mention the argument that kids are experimenting… remember that parents can still opt out of Sex Ed. Parents have a right to protect their kids from obscene language.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year my reluctant reader, who is a boy, was given the book Last Night at the Telegraph Club. He had no interest in reading a novel about a girl who realizes she is a lesbian. The teacher purposely stuck it to him even though that was his last choice of books, among other choices she offered to the class. She pushed her agenda.

You sound close minded. Reading by nature involves learning about an experience that isn't identical to our own. That you consider this pushing an agenda makes you sound bigoted.

+1 Yes, boys should only read books about boys, girls about girls, Christians should only read Christian themed books. That's what the school curriculum should mandate.

You are entirely missing the point.

Do tell us what the point is. That you would accuse a teacher of "pushing her agenda" because she had the class read a novel about a girl who is a lesbian and your son didn't want to read it because he's a boy is really offensive.

You missed the point entirely. This has to do with a kid who hates reading. If he isn’t interested in a subject like lesbians, why would you push that on him? And I would bet that most boys have absolutely NO INTEREST in reading about lesbians. Oh your outrage. Let’s be real here and stop with the virtue signaling.

You don't get assigned to read things that are identical to your interests in school. That's the point of an education. Growing up, I read a whole bunch of books that were completely unrelated to my experiences as a female growing up. That's what reading does. It's supposed to open your mind.

It’s not about pure interest. It’s about morals. Some families and cultures are greatly offended by talk about sex (for any identity). Some people still have the decency to keep their sex life private and not force minors to read explicit material.

This is VERY different than, “Oh I’m a boy I don’t like reading about girls.”

Do let us know the name of the book that so offended your morality so we can read it and assess how it affronts the decency of minors. I sincerely doubt that MCPS is assigning books with explicit sexual content to middle schoolers, so what appears to be offending the poster is that the book discusses same-sex romantic feelings. Can't help if some parents are bigots.

Sure. The one that this thread is talking about is what I was referring to: Last Night at the Telegraph Club, which PP said her son was forced to read.

“Lily and Kath's relationship evolves slowly from handholding to kisses that become "an indescribable ache" between Lily's legs and Kath's fingers touching her in a way that made them both gasp.”

That is just one example. I don’t want my kids reading about people fingering other people.

The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian also includes an entire chapter of masturbation.

Our society has becomes so insensitive to sex that we don’t even see why or how this is inappropriate for minors.

And before you even mention the argument that kids are experimenting… remember that parents can still opt out of Sex Ed. Parents have a right to protect their kids from obscene language.

You may be in for a surprise but teenagers talk and think about sex even if you stop them from reading about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Last year my reluctant reader, who is a boy, was given the book Last Night at the Telegraph Club. He had no interest in reading a novel about a girl who realizes she is a lesbian. The teacher purposely stuck it to him even though that was his last choice of books, among other choices she offered to the class. She pushed her agenda.

You sound close minded. Reading by nature involves learning about an experience that isn't identical to our own. That you consider this pushing an agenda makes you sound bigoted.

+1 Yes, boys should only read books about boys, girls about girls, Christians should only read Christian themed books. That's what the school curriculum should mandate.

You are entirely missing the point.

Do tell us what the point is. That you would accuse a teacher of "pushing her agenda" because she had the class read a novel about a girl who is a lesbian and your son didn't want to read it because he's a boy is really offensive.

You missed the point entirely. This has to do with a kid who hates reading. If he isn’t interested in a subject like lesbians, why would you push that on him? And I would bet that most boys have absolutely NO INTEREST in reading about lesbians. Oh your outrage. Let’s be real here and stop with the virtue signaling.

You don't get assigned to read things that are identical to your interests in school. That's the point of an education. Growing up, I read a whole bunch of books that were completely unrelated to my experiences as a female growing up. That's what reading does. It's supposed to open your mind.

It’s not about pure interest. It’s about morals. Some families and cultures are greatly offended by talk about sex (for any identity). Some people still have the decency to keep their sex life private and not force minors to read explicit material.

This is VERY different than, “Oh I’m a boy I don’t like reading about girls.”

Do let us know the name of the book that so offended your morality so we can read it and assess how it affronts the decency of minors. I sincerely doubt that MCPS is assigning books with explicit sexual content to middle schoolers, so what appears to be offending the poster is that the book discusses same-sex romantic feelings. Can't help if some parents are bigots.

Sure. The one that this thread is talking about is what I was referring to: Last Night at the Telegraph Club, which PP said her son was forced to read.

“Lily and Kath's relationship evolves slowly from handholding to kisses that become "an indescribable ache" between Lily's legs and Kath's fingers touching her in a way that made them both gasp.”

That is just one example. I don’t want my kids reading about people fingering other people.

The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian also includes an entire chapter of masturbation.

Our society has becomes so insensitive to sex that we don’t even see why or how this is inappropriate for minors.

And before you even mention the argument that kids are experimenting… remember that parents can still opt out of Sex Ed. Parents have a right to protect their kids from obscene language.

You may be in for a surprise but teenagers talk and think about sex even if you stop them from reading about it.

You obviously did not read my entire post. They also think about drugs and vaping and skipping class but we aren’t encouraging them in books to do that.

A book that’s sole purpose is about gender realization and sexual awakening doesn’t need to be the forefront of my kid’s reading repertoire. You can’t tell me that those kinds of books are the best we can do for our kids. Especially when the certain kids do not want to have their minds filled with that.

It’s not a crime to be offended by something. Oh wait, only if you are LGBTQ right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Last year my reluctant reader, who is a boy, was given the book Last Night at the Telegraph Club. He had no interest in reading a novel about a girl who realizes she is a lesbian. The teacher purposely stuck it to him even though that was his last choice of books, among other choices she offered to the class. She pushed her agenda.

You sound close minded. Reading by nature involves learning about an experience that isn't identical to our own. That you consider this pushing an agenda makes you sound bigoted.

+1 Yes, boys should only read books about boys, girls about girls, Christians should only read Christian themed books. That's what the school curriculum should mandate.

You are entirely missing the point.

Do tell us what the point is. That you would accuse a teacher of "pushing her agenda" because she had the class read a novel about a girl who is a lesbian and your son didn't want to read it because he's a boy is really offensive.

You missed the point entirely. This has to do with a kid who hates reading. If he isn’t interested in a subject like lesbians, why would you push that on him? And I would bet that most boys have absolutely NO INTEREST in reading about lesbians. Oh your outrage. Let’s be real here and stop with the virtue signaling.

You don't get assigned to read things that are identical to your interests in school. That's the point of an education. Growing up, I read a whole bunch of books that were completely unrelated to my experiences as a female growing up. That's what reading does. It's supposed to open your mind.

It’s not about pure interest. It’s about morals. Some families and cultures are greatly offended by talk about sex (for any identity). Some people still have the decency to keep their sex life private and not force minors to read explicit material.

This is VERY different than, “Oh I’m a boy I don’t like reading about girls.”

Do let us know the name of the book that so offended your morality so we can read it and assess how it affronts the decency of minors. I sincerely doubt that MCPS is assigning books with explicit sexual content to middle schoolers, so what appears to be offending the poster is that the book discusses same-sex romantic feelings. Can't help if some parents are bigots.

Sure. The one that this thread is talking about is what I was referring to: Last Night at the Telegraph Club, which PP said her son was forced to read.

“Lily and Kath's relationship evolves slowly from handholding to kisses that become "an indescribable ache" between Lily's legs and Kath's fingers touching her in a way that made them both gasp.”

That is just one example. I don’t want my kids reading about people fingering other people.

The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian also includes an entire chapter of masturbation.

Our society has becomes so insensitive to sex that we don’t even see why or how this is inappropriate for minors.

And before you even mention the argument that kids are experimenting… remember that parents can still opt out of Sex Ed. Parents have a right to protect their kids from obscene language.

You may be in for a surprise but teenagers talk and think about sex even if you stop them from reading about it.

You obviously did not read my entire post. They also think about drugs and vaping and skipping class but we aren’t encouraging them in books to do that.

A book that’s sole purpose is about gender realization and sexual awakening doesn’t need to be the forefront of my kid’s reading repertoire. You can’t tell me that those kinds of books are the best we can do for our kids. Especially when the certain kids do not want to have their minds filled with that.

It’s not a crime to be offended by something. Oh wait, only if you are LGBTQ right?

You must want to ban half the books on reading lists. A Separate Peace also has homosexual themes and one boy crippling another one, but I read that in middle school decades ago and no one wanted to ban it. To Kill a Mockingbird has a white woman lusting after a black man and accusing him falsely of rape. Catcher in the Rye where the narrator uses drugs and alcohol as an escape. Of Mice and Men for its profanity and vulgarity? I'm missing the middle grade books that simply talk about unicorns gamboling in the meadows peacefully with the Care Bears.